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Old 12-01-2008, 11:37 PM   #1
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All this talk about forced induction got me thinking...

I was thinking roots style
Can anybody tell me what kind of power could I expect running 5-6 psi on a 396 big block?
And I'm open to any input such as centrifugal vs. roots, or what brand makes a good s/c.

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Eaton, Magnuson are good manufacturers.

as far as centr vs roots, I personally prefer positive displacement s/c's such as roots or twin screw over negative disp style such as centrifugal.

as for a 396, you could get a weiand 6-71 or 8-71 and have a ball.

what kind of internals does the motor have? what kind of heads? what power is the motor making now?
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dont flame but is it possible to put a turbo and supercharger one car?
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Eaton, Magnuson are good manufacturers.

as far as centr vs roots, I personally prefer positive displacement s/c's such as roots or twin screw over negative disp style such as centrifugal.

as for a 396, you could get a weiand 6-71 or 8-71 and have a ball.

what kind of internals does the motor have? what kind of heads? what power is the motor making now?
It has stock internals, not original, but OEM
Ported/polished original heads,

But I could swap all that out if need be, I have $7,000 to work with
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possible.... yes

Wouldnt that be a bastard to tune...lol

Yes technically it can be done Detroit Diesel has been doing it for 20 plus years on the 8V91T and 6V91T. Those are 2 stroke diesel engines. Deffinatly possible. The cost would be astronomical and the gains wouldnt be there. A engine can only handle so much boost. If you ran both you would have to run 3 psi on the blower and 3 psi on the turbo..... so there really isnt a point to it. But it would be a great conversation piece
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I can hook you up.....
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It has stock internals, not original, but OEM
Ported/polished original heads,

But I could swap all that out if need be, I have $7,000 to work with
forge the hell out of it, throw a decent cam in there then talk to this guy


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dont flame but is it possible to put a turbo and supercharger one car?
Yes you can.

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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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forge the hell out of it, throw a decent cam in there then talk to this guy
Skip the cam till you F/I (save money...buy one came one time...duh) BUT that's if you are going blown right away....
If it's gonna be a couple years before you pull the trigger on the F/I...I can see doing it.
Cam characteristics are such that tailoring it to the blower psi is WAY better then buying the wrong cam for F/I and be stuck with it because "That was the budget" and you bought before you "needed" it. It's your money..JMO
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Skip the cam till you F/I (save money...buy one came one time...duh) BUT that's if you are going blown right away....
If it's gonna be a couple years before you pull the trigger on the F/I...I can see doing it.
Cam characteristics are such that tailoring it to the blower psi is WAY better then buying the wrong cam for F/I and be stuck with it because "That was the budget" and you bought before you "needed" it. It's your money..JMO
I was meaning to get a cam setup for the f/i.
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Whine?

http://hdmediashop.com/dyno.html

That would be the dyno sound at 5:30 on this video and 6:07
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http://hdmediashop.com/dyno.html

That would be the dyno sound at 5:30 on this video and 6:07

http://www.corneltechweb.com/dynovid.wmv
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whine you say? lol
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dont flame but is it possible to put a turbo and supercharger one car?
You can buy twincharge kits for the:
1) Ionredline/CBSS supercharged
2)supercharged grandprix's
3)Mini cooper S
4)Terminator cobra's

It's a pretty mean powercurve and they are capable of enourmous pressure (40-60psi).

They make more sense to me on a small disp engine, since they are lacking in the low end torque dept. V-8's (well except fords ) have plenty of grunt down low.
Lookup " compound turbo" on youtube.

Sounds badass. Roots howl with the turbohiss.
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I like ProCharger personally by a great past experience and a completly negative one from KenneBell. You can twin supercharge just like you can twin turbo charge. Your big block needs a centrifical supercharger (ProCharger) to keep the heat down and make more power & torque at the same psi over a screw or roots type
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