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Old 08-26-2010, 07:09 PM   #1
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Prototype Penske shocks are in for our 2010

New struts for the 2010 SS showed up today.. these are serial number 1 and the only set on the planet..

Eventually they want to make it so you can use existing drop springs but the perches aren't out yet. If you notice the ride heigth is not set with the spring but with the body of the shock. They also have some new sort of trick valving inside. I will know more when I interview the engineer on Monday at our track test. The car will be our 600+ blown 416 silver CP/28 project car.

We will be installing them tomorrow at Global West (along with my '68 Camaro's 'Bad Penny" new shocks) and testing them Monday at the track with an engineer from Penske they are flying out.

Anyways, they are simply bad ass. Right now they are single adjustable but reservoirs can be added to the top to make them double adjustable and they can also be made three-way adjustable.







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Old 08-26-2010, 07:13 PM   #2
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Ooooooo Penske. Sexy!
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:21 AM   #4
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Penske stuff is top of the line stuff, so I dont think these coil overs will be any different. One of the best coil over companies in the market today.
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Simply "bad ass" may be an understatement!
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:40 AM   #6
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Any pictures of Penske's rear solution?
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Old 08-27-2010, 08:57 AM   #7
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would love to see them on the car and hear how they perform
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Old 08-27-2010, 12:36 PM   #8
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Any pictures of Penske's rear solution?
I will post something tonight.. they actually have remote reservoirs and utilize the OEM frame mount.

Starting the install right now..
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:54 PM   #9
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Aw man, I thought they were shock, shocks! Not coil overs!

My old Gen3 had a set of adjustable Tokicos at stock height which made a huge improvement for auto-crossing. I'm hoping for the same on the Gen5's.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:06 PM   #10
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SICCCKKK! For the money Penske was all I'd use for my track motorcycles. Their support has always been pretty good too.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:28 PM   #11
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Aw man, I thought they were shock, shocks! Not coil overs!

My old Gen3 had a set of adjustable Tokicos at stock height which made a huge improvement for auto-crossing. I'm hoping for the same on the Gen5's.
I know.. I'm trying to talk Penske into just making some replacement struts.. I can't believe there are still none on the market.

These could be, but they have to finish the rear mount that would accept a factory style "beehive" shaped huge ass spring.

Then again, what are you really saving? These 2.5" springs are pretty cheap.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:29 PM   #12
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SICCCKKK! For the money Penske was all I'd use for my track motorcycles. Their support has always been pretty good too.
Yes, they've been great to work with.

And since these are prototypes we did run into an issue on the rears.. the fronts fit great though.

Parts are being overnighted so we can make the change and finish the install Sunday.

Track testing is still set for Monday.
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Old 08-28-2010, 02:27 AM   #13
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I know.. I'm trying to talk Penske into just making some replacement struts.. I can't believe there are still none on the market.

These could be, but they have to finish the rear mount that would accept a factory style "beehive" shaped huge ass spring.

Then again, what are you really saving? These 2.5" springs are pretty cheap.
I was pretty surprised that replacement performance struts aren't available as well. Speaking to Sam Strano, he brought up a good point that no one complains about how heavy the BMW's are but they don't feel like they are. Alot has to do with the valving of the Sachs dampeners on them.

A set of Koni replacements and his springs made my 3rd Gen Camaro handle way better than I expected. Well under a price of coil overs for that car and I just didn't see the need for coilovers for a car that used as a daily driver.

Definitely good to see a player like Penske coming out with dampeners for the Camaros though. Any estimate on what these coilovers will run for?
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:37 AM   #14
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I was pretty surprised that replacement performance struts aren't available as well. Speaking to Sam Strano, he brought up a good point that no one complains about how heavy the BMW's are but they don't feel like they are. Alot has to do with the valving of the Sachs dampeners on them.

A set of Koni replacements and his springs made my 3rd Gen Camaro handle way better than I expected. Well under a price of coil overs for that car and I just didn't see the need for coilovers for a car that used as a daily driver.

Definitely good to see a player like Penske coming out with dampeners for the Camaros though. Any estimate on what these coilovers will run for?
I will ask them on Monday.. I imagine they will be in line with other manufactures. Also, there will be a price for single and double adjustables.

I will also ask about the mounts to use stock style springs, although that wouldn't save you very much cash.

I do like how these use the stock upper mounts and how the fronts adjust by the body and not the spring perch.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:05 PM   #15
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Install is done over at Global West Suspension.. We did need to make some changes to the rears for fitment, but then again that's why these are called prototypes..

Fronts went on easy and the struts all all the right brackets in all the right places.



Testing tomorrow.. We have a bone stock SS there for comparison.
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Old 08-29-2010, 04:39 PM   #16
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We had to make one revision to the rears, but after that they went right in. Ended up mounting the remote canister to the lower control arm. If we upgrade to a double adjustable it will be easy to get to the knob this way.

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Old 08-29-2010, 08:09 PM   #17
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We had to make one revision to the rears, but after that they went right in. Ended up mounting the remote canister to the lower control arm. If we upgrade to a double adjustable it will be easy to get to the knob this way.

Sweet! Very nice hardware there. Definitely looking forward to the rersults of your test tomorrow!
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:08 PM   #18
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Sweet! Very nice hardware there. Definitely looking forward to the rersults of your test tomorrow!
There will most likely be changes to the rear units in the production versions. Right now you adjust the shock though a hole in the trunk but they are looking at inverting hte shock and the adjustment on the bottom like the fronts. Personally it's not a big deal for me to adjust them in the trunk, it's not like it needs to be done very often.

It's a process.. but I can't wait to see how it does tomorow.. I will file a report. lol
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:15 PM   #19
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Those Penske pieces are nice. Can't wait to see how they feel on your test car. Please keep us up to date. Thx...
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Nice! This is something I considered highly interesting for applications in performance cars.

Please keep us updated!
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They bad ass but do they carry a high price tag??????????
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Old 08-30-2010, 07:49 PM   #23
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How did track testing go today?
It's difficult to tell from the angle the photo was taken but the rear spring appears to be very close to the factory upper flange mount. Did you see any spring to mount contact when the rear wheel is cycled from full compression to full droop? The Eibach part number shown is for an 8" long 2.5" diameter spring with 475 lb/inch rate. May be an Eibach 2.25" diameter spring may also fit over the rear shock body and gives more clearance around the upper flange mount. Just a thought.

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Those look well made/machined. I like the 1 piece machined mounting body. Also, I like how there is alot of holes for the spanner wrench. Should make adjusting the collar easier.
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Old 09-02-2010, 12:36 PM   #25
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Testing results anyone?
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