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Old 05-23-2007, 05:11 PM   #51
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I'm confident also that it will have quite a bit of wheel gap in it. Like has already been said, the wheels on the concept are rediculously oversized, and they can afford to have it sit aggressively on them, the car is not driven per se.

But I'm excited about the little things like this...it makes it that much easier to stand out with one without doing something rediculously expensive. Throw some mild springs under her to get the ride height down to something more aggressive and it will look that much better compared to the neighbor's stocker.

Assuming it doesn't void the warranty. :P
It's hard to say what they will do in the production versions. In first gen. Camaros, all of them had 14" rims except the Z/28 which had 15" rims, yet the Z/28 sat two inches lower than other Camaros. So there is a history of doing some different things on different versions of the same car.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:52 PM   #52
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It seems a little wider. Seems to be about the same height. Doesn't seem to be longer or shorter. I think it's tough to say unless you can put them side by side. It did appear that the 5th Gen had more room inside than the 4th Gen. Sorry...but it doesn't seem huge to me. It just seems like a new musclecar in it's own design.
Good, cause when he said it was huge, and me not having a personal experience with the car...shook me up a little bit...because I didn't think it was really that big...nor do I want it to be "huge".


I wouldn't consider it to be apples and oranges...not really, anyways. After all it is the same car at heart. It's the 5th generation, not a reincarnated 1st (cough) (Mustang!) (cough), Thank God
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Old 05-23-2007, 07:48 PM   #53
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For those who are worried ( Moose) that the gap between the wheel well and the tire will be bigger if they use samller rims..don't worry. Look tires on the concept are 275/30 R 21's and 305/30 R22's. Convert millimeters of the tire tread by multiplying by .03937. The side wall is a percentage of the tread. Soo.. a tread of 275 = 10.82 inches. 30% of that is 3.24 inches. For the rear 305 = 12.00 inches 30% of that is 3.60. Sounds crazy, but the front tires have a smaller side wall demention than the rear. Smaller wheels do not mean a smaller tire. Just what side wall demention they use. You could use 275/35 or 40's R 19 fronts and 305/ 35 or 40's R20 rears and still fill the wheel well just nicely. Just play with tread and side wall ratios. They're engineers they can figure it out.
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For those who are worried ( Moose) that the gap between the wheel well and the tire will be bigger if they use samller rims..don't worry. Look tires on the concept are 275/30 R 21's and 305/30 R22's. Convert millimeters of the tire tread by multiplying by .03937. The side wall is a percentage of the tread. Soo.. a tread of 275 = 10.82 inches. 30% of that is 3.24 inches. For the rear 305 = 12.00 inches 30% of that is 3.60. Sounds crazy, but the front tires have a smaller side wall demention than the rear. Smaller wheels do not mean a smaller tire. Just what side wall demention they use. You could use 275/35 or 40's R 19 fronts and 305/ 35 or 40's R20 rears and still fill the wheel well just nicely. Just play with tread and side wall ratios. They're engineers they can figure it out.
I don't want you to try and explain...I just wanted to state that you made me feel kinda stupid right there....thanks. lol
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:34 PM   #55
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I don't want you to try and explain...I just wanted to state that you made me feel kinda stupid right there....thanks. lol
I'm not sure if you are kidding, but I'm sorry that was not my intention to make ANYONE feel that way. No put downs on this site. Just too much time on my hands. Just did some research to see if smaller whells would effect the wheel gap and it won't. I've been sitting here figuring tire combinations. 275/35 R19's in front an 305/35 R20's in rear or 275/40 R18's front and 305/40 R19's rear will do it.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:20 PM   #56
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Sorry I don't remember ANY picture of the concept and a 4th Gen camaro. I don't think there was one. Why.. or for that matter compare the Concept with a 4th Gen camaro? That would be the proverbial apples and oranges.
It was a picture taken at some Camaro gathering last year. I'll look it up shortly, I think I remember the title of the thread it was in.

I wasn't comparing it to a 4th gen really, just the ride height.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:26 PM   #57
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Here ya go, this is the pic-

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Old 05-23-2007, 09:30 PM   #58
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I'm pretty sure he was.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:30 PM   #59
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I agree, you can use different size rims and ultimately get the same overall diameter (height) with tire size.
I think I read something about this here before but, I always appreciated the fact that the factory 17" wheels on my 1994 Impala SS were the same offset rims and same tires all the way around in order to easily rotate tires. It bugged me that my friend's Camaro had the same tires all around but different offset rims so you had to have them all broken down and re-mounted to rotate. The concepts both look fantastic as they are but I wouldn't mind if the could use the same set-up on all four corners.
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Here ya go, this is the pic-

OH, HOT DAMN, WHO TOOK THIS PICTURE... I LOVE IT!

And I was joking, hence the smilies (you'll know if I'm not joking trust me: asshole attitude with no smilies, rare but possible) I was just referring to the wheel size terms, I learned long ago what they meant, but have long since forgotten.

And back to the topic of this thread, I think this pic proves it, the Concept sits quite high enough.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:54 AM   #61
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The 4th Gen appears to be taller that the 5th Gen in overall height. Yes, the hood seems to be lower on teh 4th Gen, though....hmmmm....not that big of a difference to my eyes.
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Here ya go, this is the pic-

Looks excellent! what the hell are they complaining about? They are used to these days driving these econo boxes, man, these cares are supposed to be wide, large, and freaking scary....AWESOME PICTURE!

I can't wait for this car anymore people, I want it bad. I have been saving money since 05 telling other car owners that it is coming when they kept insisting that a new Camaro will never happen :(

The front end looks so aggressive on these! I get chills looking at it. I hope the SS version gets an even meaner looking front.
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I agree Bait8, I think it looks awesome and I don't want to wait either. I don't know if I can read all this stuff about the new Camaro for the next 18 months before it is available. I have become ADDICTED to this website, I check it 3..4...5..6 times a day for new info. Am I CRAZY
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I agree Bait8, I think it looks awesome and I don't want to wait either. I don't know if I can read all this stuff about the new Camaro for the next 18 months before it is available. I have become ADDICTED to this website, I check it 3..4...5..6 times a day for new info. Am I CRAZY
I check this site as well as CamaroZ28.com at least once or twice daily...
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Wheel Well size with smaller rims

Obviously, this 5th gen car won't come stock with 21 and 22 inch rims. They'll probably be 18 or 19 inch. But how will they fit smaller wheels in this car with the existing fenders and fender wells without it looking funny? If they go with 275 or 285\45 or 40\18 or 19 tires, they'll have to drop the fenders lower and shrink the wheel wells quite a bit. I've seen the concept in person, and the existing wheel wells are made for the huge rims.

I sure hope they maintain the low, wide tire, mean driving stance look of the 4th gens.
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They won't. They'll make the wheel opening a tad smaller. The base Corvette has F 245/40 R18's R 285/35 19's and the Z06 has F 275/35 R18's and 325/30 R19's and they look great.
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I have been coming here often as of late as well, I don't know but I think this waiting is going to drag.

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Obviously, this 5th gen car won't come stock with 21 and 22 inch rims. They'll probably be 18 or 19 inch. But how will they fit smaller wheels in this car with the existing fenders and fender wells without it looking funny? If they go with 275 or 285\45 or 40\18 or 19 tires, they'll have to drop the fenders lower and shrink the wheel wells quite a bit. I've seen the concept in person, and the existing wheel wells are made for the huge rims.

I sure hope they maintain the low, wide tire, mean driving stance look of the 4th gens.
Hey man, I noticed under you car it says that you have an 06 RSX TYPE S, that is the same car I have right now to drive around. I have the NBP color. Same year.

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No, cause if you are then so am I. I fell in love with the way the concept looks and have been seeing ghostly images of it on my drive way lol.
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No, cause if you are then so am I. I fell in love with the way the concept looks and have been seeing ghostly images of it on my drive way lol.
You, too? At least I'm not alone - except mine has no color, that's the only piece I'm missing....
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:10 PM   #70
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Dude, use the SEARCH BUTTON.

Either that, or consolidate ALL of your one sentence questions onto one big thread, and we will try and answer all of them.

But keep in mind, nobody really knows anything much. NO info has been released except for an on-sale date, and some other small tidbits.

But currently there has been NO major information released about any of the following
Engines
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Wheels
Paint
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Options
Packages

NOTHING. Im not trying to be mean here, but seriously, most of us are in the dark just like everyone else.

However, to SORT OF give you some kind of answer, the only thing we know about the wheels and tires is that on the Zeta platform which the camaro was built on, they moved the front suspension forward 50mm to accomodate 20 inch wheels....SO presumably, there will be a 20 inch wheel option. But thats all we know. Other than that, it will probably have 17, 18 and 20 inch variants depending on trim levels and options.
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Ok, that sounded mean, but seriously, everyone is welcome at this site.

But it is really appreciated that some research is done before asking 20 different questions, especially if you are going to start a new thread about each of them.

Please dont be offended, and I will always help if I can. Take it easy man.

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Has anybody herd what size rimes are made for the camaro stock.
Hey man...

Looks like the concept has rear P305/30R22 and front P275/30R21. Correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't those bigger than vette tires?
I heard Bob Lutz say that the production Camaro will more likely sport 21's in the rear and 20's in the front, basically, an inch shorter from the concept all the way around.

OK... what's this man thinking???

I don't like that, I like big rims so I'm gonna have to buy custom rims for my 5th gen. The biggest I can get away with without making it look like a 4x4.
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Has anybody herd what size rimes are made for the camaro stock.
No one knows for sure. And...I found the thread that had already been created about wheels/rims/ride height for you and merged the thread. Please, type in what you are looking for in the SEARCH area at the top of the forum. Not only will it find what you are looking for, but it will also usually answer your questions. If you still can't find what you are looking for, feel free to ask.
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