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Old 08-30-2010, 11:47 AM   #1
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M6 Owners..Where does you clutch engage/disengage

Wanted to see at what point eveyones clutch engages/disengages to see what would be considered normal in relation to pedal position.

I would say mine is consistently engages/disengages at the upper 1/3 area of pedal travel. I have about 2,200 miles so far.

**edited: Never had mine stay on the floor and not return to its normal position and have not noticed any burning smell from the clutch.

I would say I have a more spirited driving style but do not go to the track and don't do any hard launches where I drop the clutch. Shifting mostly between 4k & 5k.

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Old 08-30-2010, 11:52 AM   #2
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I just posted elsewhere on this but mine just did "dreaded clutch malfunction" yesterday.... got a sinking feeling. I dunno if it does it on the v6 models though.....
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:07 PM   #3
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:28 PM   #4
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Wanted to see at what point eveyones clutch engages/disengages to see what would be considered normal in relation to pedal position.

I would say mine is consistently engages/disengages at the upper 1/3 area of pedal travel. I have about 2,200 miles so far.

Never had mine go to the floor and have not noticed any burning smell from the clutch.

I would say I have a more spirited driving style but do not go to the track and don't do any hard launches where I drop the clutch. Shifting mostly between 4k & 5k.
about the same as yours, you barely push it down and your in gear and when you barely let it out it's time to fly! I am used to it now but it's funny watching people in service trying to drive it apparently they aren't used to them yet.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:30 PM   #5
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Wanted to see at what point eveyones clutch engages/disengages to see what would be considered normal in relation to pedal position.

I would say mine is consistently engages/disengages at the upper 1/3 area of pedal travel. I have about 2,200 miles so far.

Never had mine go to the floor and have not noticed any burning smell from the clutch.

I would say I have a more spirited driving style but do not go to the track and don't do any hard launches where I drop the clutch. Shifting mostly between 4k & 5k.
Yeah man, same for me. Upper 1/3.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:35 PM   #6
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I Don't really pay too much attention to details I engage and disengaged the clutch by the sound and feel of what my car makes.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:49 PM   #7
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If all the way down is 3/3 and all the way released is 0/3 is say mine engages while driving at about 1/3
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:50 PM   #8
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It's in the upper 1/3 for me too. My problem is that I can't seem to get used to not pushing it down all the way because I drove a truck for 10 years where the friction point was in the bottom 50% so you pretty much had to push it all the way down to ensure a smooth shift. Maybe one day I'll get used to it, but I'm still rolling back quite a bit on hills because of this even if I try to release the clutch quickly! Not the car's fault, but still I wish I could get used to not depressing the pedal all the way!
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:57 PM   #9
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I'd say within 1/3 of the distance. However, pushing it all the way my shifts feel much smoother (more notably second to third). I don't know if it's because there is that slight amount of time for the synchronizers or what, but it feels better.
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:28 PM   #10
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Just to be specific I do push the clutch pedal all the way down when I shift. When I meant it never went to the floor I should have said it never stayed on the floor as in the pedal would not return to its normal position.

Others have had this problem usually caused by the pressure plate being loose.

My apologies for the the confusion there.

I believe pushing the pedal all the way to the floor is the correct way and that is how if have done it with all my vehicles.
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:57 PM   #11
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My clutch catches some where in the top 1/3 sometimes it catches 1/2 way on a hill it catches at the very top sometimes lower if it feels like it. It does not catch consistently in the same location. Hills are the worst it will catch right near the top it is very irritating. When I brought it to the dealer I was told it is working in normal range....but of course it is why would it have a problem when the mechanics are testing it......
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Old 08-30-2010, 03:07 PM   #12
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Sounds like it has air in it. Remind them there is a procedure in the service manual to bleed the hydraulics.

A hydraulic clutch should always engage at the exact same spot unless there is air in the system. Most that have had their's bled properly comment that it feels perfect again, not engaging too high or low, and it should be consistent. A solid line of fluid should have equal movement force every time.

Acting up on hills sounds like the fluid has boiled from heat, and with all the air down there in the slave and line is very suseptible to cause problems again when heat is added. I'd get it bled. That will get the clutch engaging in the right part of the stroke, then take it easy on hills. Don't ride the clutch out, let it out swiftly.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:56 PM   #13
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My engagement point is pretty much in the middle of the clutch travel. It is very consistent.
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Old 08-31-2010, 01:23 AM   #14
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My stock clutch engaged at the top 1/3 area. The after market (now in the car) engages around the bottom 2/3. Just my preference, but I like the clutch to engage lower than near the top of the pedal stroke.
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Old 08-31-2010, 06:53 AM   #15
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My 2010 engaged very high. The 2011 engages much lower to the floor. I definitely like the lower engagement spot as I've always pushed the clutch all the way to the floor.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:10 AM   #16
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Mine engages at around the halfway point... would be better a tad lower.
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Old 08-31-2010, 08:34 AM   #17
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About 2/3's here
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Old 08-31-2010, 09:10 AM   #18
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My stock clutch engaged at the top 1/3 area. The after market (now in the car) engages around the bottom 2/3. Just my preference, but I like the clutch to engage lower than near the top of the pedal stroke.
Which aftermarket clutch did you put in and how much $$ did it set you back.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:08 PM   #19
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My friction point is in the upper 1/3 - which is the only thing about the car I don't love! I'd love to have it engage closer to the bottom, maybe a hair before the halfway point. Can they adjust that?
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:16 PM   #20
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Mine starts engaging right at the halfway point and by starts I mean just barely. I could ride it there and burn it and only get going 3mph but it does touch there.

If you sit it in your car without it moving and depress and release does anyone else notice it starts pushing back harder after you get past 1/2 way (closer to the 1/3rd)? I think this is why it feels like it hits higher than it really does is because it starts pushing back against your foot harder there.

I do depress all the way to the floor most of the time. In higher speed but less rpm drop shifts I don't seem to push it down as much. I couldn't tell you how much, I've started shifting by feel of the car but I know that if I'm in the city going from 3->4 starting at like 2.5k to 1.8k I probably only push it down a little past halfway if that. This is the type of shift where you're not accelerating anymore you just are cutting down the RPMs for gas.

This is my first manual car so I can't tell you whats "normal" just what I do and it seems to be working. If I've made any obvious newbie mistakes someone please correct me before I hurt my baby :(
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:34 PM   #21
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My clutch starts to grab about 2" off the floor. It is perfect to me.
You do have to be sure to hold it all the way to the floor when in gear and not moving or the engagement point will rise. Best to just set the trans in neutral and let off the clutch when sitting still.
Clutches are pretty much self-healing.

Hydraulic clutches are self bleeding. Just pump the pedal several times.
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:25 AM   #22
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Finally picked mine up yesterday, the clutch caught me off guard, as after a full depression and a shift into first, it catches almost instantly, less then 1 inch of travel from the floor. I was used to a 1/3 ish clutch for the last 10 years so I proceeded to stall it the first time.

I laughed when I stopped by my parents house to show off, and my father (habitual car guy) took it for a drive.. I warned him about the super tight clutch and told him I stalled it first shift. He just laughed atme like "HA, I'd never stall it", as he proceeded to stall it twice! I just smiled as he turned red.
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:16 AM   #23
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1/3 down like a lot of others. My only beef with the clutch is the aggressive spring they put in it. This clutch feels very different from ANY other manual transmission car/truck I've driven in 30 years.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:52 AM   #24
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mine is also only around the 1/3 mark, this clutch has been a PITA for me to get used to and I have driven manuals since I started driving, it is unlike any other manual I have ever driven and even after a month of driving I occassionly stall it still because of the clutch engage point, I would rather have it much closer to the floor when it engages/disengages.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:01 AM   #25
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Same here with the very odd, extremely on-off-switch-like clutch engagement way too high. There is absolutely no way anyone at GM put any thought, development, or testing in to the Camaro SS clutch feel and performance.
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