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Old 09-02-2010, 09:07 AM   #26
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ok i guess my real question is am i doing more harm (swirls/scratches) by using a MF towel and rubbing the detail spray around the car? i mean i just washed the car very thoroughly and all the dirt is off the paint...
Anytime that you touch the paint is an opportunity to scratch the paint. It is that simple. If you can avoid touching the paint at any time, you have also just avoided the possibility to create any damage. That's why I blow dry my car.

If you do have to touch the paint, doing so immediately after washing would be the safest time to do so.
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:22 AM   #27
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Anytime that you touch the paint is an opportunity to scratch the paint. It is that simple. If you can avoid touching the paint at any time, you have also just avoided the possibility to create any damage. That's why I blow dry my car.

If you do have to touch the paint, doing so immediately after washing would be the safest time to do so.

ok cool thanks again Junkman
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:36 AM   #28
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I think I'm going to try it and see what happens. What is your mph rating on your leaf blower? You detail spray the whole car after drying or just the spots you missed?
I think the specs say 200mph. I use the cheap $29 electric one from sears.

As for the detail spray, it depends on the mood i am in. Most of the time i just detail spray the spots i miss. If i want that extra bit of shine i will detail spray the whole car when im done.
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I think the specs say 200mph. I use the cheap $29 electric one from sears.

As for the detail spray, it depends on the mood i am in. Most of the time i just detail spray the spots i miss. If i want that extra bit of shine i will detail spray the whole car when im done.

ok cool thanks i keep seeing the $29 leaf blowers but they only hit 150mph...wierd
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I'm totally against spraying the whole car with detail spray...then wiping it off. That makes NO sense to me whatsoever (yeah the people selling the stuff say it makes the drying process easier). It doesn't in my view. I've tried it several times, and each time I kick myself in the ass after-wards saying "why in the world did I do that"? No thanks...I will stick with drying the car (after I rinse with open nozzle water stream) using a good leaf blower...then dabbing the few remaining droplets with a double-weeve drying towel. There is NO wiping involved...I mean NONE.
I have tried the detail spray & I just love it. You are so right as far as having to wipe more once you spray the car with the detail spray. But there is a huge difference when you use the detail spray. It gives the clear coat a true wet looking shine and makes the car so much more easier to break down dirt once you clean the car again...
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I use a big synthetic ABSORBER towel to dry mine and have been on my cars for years...it helps get any pollen/smudges that washing mised. never had any problems with swirls or scratches...just need to keep the sorber real clean and rinsed often...
After seeing the DS method on here I have tried that and have had good results...sometimes the sorber gets a little dry...it needs to be slightly wet...
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you should check out some high quality waffle weave drying MF...

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I use a big synthetic ABSORBER towel to dry mine and have been on my cars for years...it helps get any pollen/smudges that washing mised. never had any problems with swirls or scratches...just need to keep the sorber real clean and rinsed often...
After seeing the DS method on here I have tried that and have had good results...sometimes the sorber gets a little dry...it needs to be slightly wet...
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:23 AM   #33
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:26 AM   #34
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The soap/gloss formula I use...leaves a fantastic sheen...all without adding the detail spray step and needless wiping of yet another product applied to the paint surface. Less is more in my view.

I've actually perfected the washing cycle and have tried a whole lot of different products and techniques. I've concluded the detail spray application is unnecessary and takes more of my time and money. I get the same results without it. Just a fact.
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Foam gun is awesome! Hold on to your wash mitt, at least with the Adam's soap in the foam gun, because it gets slippery!

I too use a leaf blower. Neighbors think I'm nuts! I have a Craftsman that I picked up at a flea market.
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USPS already picked it up!

BTW, saw two orders from you, but I only processed one since the PayPal one was on pending. LMK if you actually wanted that one too or not!

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I am a Mechanical Engineer who designs robots for a living. I used to think that I was smarter than the average bear. Now I don't even know how to wash a car. LOL. I need the DetailAddict, Junkman and Gramps to all come to my house to work all of this out.

I did spend $130 today at Summit racing on Adams cleaning products. In the morning I will take my first step and wash the car. I will work my way up from there.

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I am a Mechanical Engineer who designs robots for a living. I used to think that I was smarter than the average bear. Now I don't even know how to wash a car. LOL. I need the DetailAddict, Junkman and Gramps to all come to my house to work all of this out.

I did spend $130 today at Summit racing on Adams cleaning products. In the morning I will take my first step and wash the car. I will work my way up from there.

I appreciate everyones advice on this forum.
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nice explanation

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I think you're missing the point for using a drying agent.

It serves a couple of purposes.

A) Additional Surface Lubrication - Anytime you'll be touching your paint you should maximize surface lubrication. Using a drying agent to do this also wets and helps encapsulate any stray dirt/dust particles you may have on the surface - potentially from water drips carrying debris out of trim or door handles, spots you may have missed in the washing process, or stuff that may have settled on the car.

This becomes especially important in cases where you use forced air for drying. That process will push water laden with debris out of the cracks and crevices and from around badges. Lubricating this debris before removal minimizes the risk of damage to your clear coat.

Its simply an extra barrier of protection.

B) Detail Spray is mildly hydrophobic - this means that it repels water.. if you have standing water pooled anywhere on the vehicle, try a mist of detail spray and watch what happens. The product will cause that standing water to run. Even if you do a sheeting/pooling rinse there will be areas where water gathers.

So whether you choose to believe it or not it does aid in drying. Now maybe you're misunderstanding or simply doing it incorrectly, but a light mist of product as you dry is all thats needed - if you're having such extensive problems with this process it might be that you're saturating the car with spray.

In any event, do what works for you... but its not like we blindly make these recommendations based on some hunch. Its been proven in results and in the countless testimonials of customers that its an added benefit, not just with our products either. Many companies make this same recommendation.
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I think you're missing the point for using a drying agent.

It serves a couple of purposes.

A) Additional Surface Lubrication - Anytime you'll be touching your paint you should maximize surface lubrication. Using a drying agent to do this also wets and helps encapsulate any stray dirt/dust particles you may have on the surface - potentially from water drips carrying debris out of trim or door handles, spots you may have missed in the washing process, or stuff that may have settled on the car.

This becomes especially important in cases where you use forced air for drying. That process will push water laden with debris out of the cracks and crevices and from around badges. Lubricating this debris before removal minimizes the risk of damage to your clear coat.

Its simply an extra barrier of protection.

B) Detail Spray is mildly hydrophobic - this means that it repels water.. if you have standing water pooled anywhere on the vehicle, try a mist of detail spray and watch what happens. The product will cause that standing water to run. Even if you do a sheeting/pooling rinse there will be areas where water gathers.

So whether you choose to believe it or not it does aid in drying. Now maybe you're misunderstanding or simply doing it incorrectly, but a light mist of product as you dry is all thats needed - if you're having such extensive problems with this process it might be that you're saturating the car with spray.

In any event, do what works for you... but its not like we blindly make these recommendations based on some hunch. Its been proven in results and in the countless testimonials of customers that its an added benefit, not just with our products either. Many companies make this same recommendation.
Dylan,

You did a good job of explaining the purpose of the detailing spray. I did notice that the Adams video on this subject says to spray the car down. This may be where some of the confusion comes from.
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no problem my friend, that's what we are here for...

$ is really not an issue... just wait until you become a "detail addict", you won't let anyone else touch your car, and you'll become a detailing slave to your car.... LOL!


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is there a technique or even video to show how to blow dry off the water? just curious...looking for some tips to save me some frustration when i attempt this..
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is there a technique or even video to show how to blow dry off the water? just curious...looking for some tips to save me some frustration when i attempt this..
Junkman has a video on 'sheeting' rinse which basically is letting a stream of water flow from top down. This technique leave very little water standing on the car.

I then blow dry from the top down and pay attention to areas where water can stand. Examples are, the roof rails, the XM/OnStar antenna, trunk, hood, along the doors and glass and the grill.

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Junkman has a video on 'sheeting' rinse which basically is letting a stream of water flow from top down. This technique leave very little water standing on the car.

I then blow dry from the top down and pay attention to areas where water can stand. Examples are, the roof rails, the XM/OnStar antenna, trunk, hood, along the doors and glass and the grill.

Hope that helps
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Junkman, i believe that would help a lot of people out. Can't wait to watch.
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"Anytime that you touch the paint is an opportunity to scratch the paint. It is that simple. If you can avoid touching the paint at any time, you have also just avoided the possibility to create any damage. That's why I blow dry my car.

If you do have to touch the paint, doing so immediately after washing would be the safest time to do so"

...key word here from the junkman himself is "HAVE". Why would anybody HAVE to apply (and then wipe off) detail spray during the drying cycle? Therein lies the question, and subsequent obvious answer.

Junkman I will say one thing about you man....I love you telling it like it is, and I like your videos because you usually are detailing some older, weather-beaten car that just looked like it went through hell and back....NOT some Ferrari or Porsche (who's owners take better care of their darn cars...than they take care of themselves).

You're straight forward, and you detail cars for the love of it, not the income from it. I'm into computer data systems, and detailing cars is just something I have always loved doing.

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Well Gramps, this next video series will consist of some American muscle, albeit in a lot better shape than the Mean O' Camino. My Corvette is the only car that I take care of. Everything else never sees a drop of soap, although they do see as much rain, sleet, snow and salt as Kentucky can through at them (and they also have the rust to show for it too).

They ain't pretty, but they are fun to drive! Thanks for watching.

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This is my procedure:

1) Rinse car thoroughly with water to remove as much dirt as possible.
2) Foam entire car thoroughly once to allow soap to help remove remaining dirt.
3) Foam car quickly again to help the removed dirt wash away.
4) Start foaming sections of the car starting at the top and working your way down.
5) I use a soft wash mitt for the top, hood and trunk. I use another soft mitt for the sides and then use a sponge for the very bottom of the vehicle and wheels since there is where most of the dirt would be and I don't want to dirty my best mitt. Check your wash mitts frequently to make sure there is no dirt on it so you won't scratch your car.
6) Rinse car thoroughly. Take off any attachments to your hose and then allow water to sheet off the car starting at the top. If you have previously waxed your car this will keep your drying to a minimum.
7) I use a waffle weave drying towel and then starting at the top to dry off the car. Check your drying towel before starting to make sure there is no dirt in it. I usually wash my drying towel with clean water before and after using.
8) I then use a high quality microfiber towel to blot (not rub) the remaining water off.
9) I also dry the inside of the hood, trunk and doors with a seperate microfiber towel.

I can wash and dry my Camaro by myself in 30-45 minutes. If you have someone that can help with the drying you can shave off about 10 minutes.

I also use a 5 gallon bucket but only to store my cleaning products since the foam gun does all the work for me.
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Heres mine

First Time Wash/Wax:
Rinse
Foam Gun w/dawn (Let sit)
Rinse
Foam Gun (Let sit)
Rinse
Foam Gun
Wash car (wash bucket, wipe, rinse bucket, repeat)
-2 mits, 1 top of car (to bottom of window) 2 bottom of car (bottom of windows to rocker panel)
Rinse
Clay
Rinse
Foam Gun
Wash
Rinse
Dry (leaf blower)
Towel dry remaining spots
Polish
Wax
Enjoy

Regular Mainenace:
Rinse
Foam Gun (Let sit)
Rinse
Foam Gun
Wash car (wash bucket, wipe, rinse bucket, repeat)
-2 mits, 1 top of car (to bottom of window) 2 bottom of car (bottom of windows to rocker panel)
Rinse
Dry (leaf blower)
Towel dry remaining spots
Wax
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