DFW PERFORMANCE SHOP THAT SCREWED ME !

[sleeper101]

EXTREME HORSEPOWER off of davis blv.. Do not go there ! They screwed me! Here is my story . OK I have a 2010 camaro 2ss rs yellow with black racing stripes transformer edition a6 .. and orval i hope you are reading this because i want my money back .....!!!!!! Charge back should work ?! ok so my first mod was cold air intake and dyablo tuner.
first dyno was at speed tek (which i want to point out is verry good and i love those guys) They saved me here.Thanks speed tek i will only get my work done there from now on ..
! Ok so first dyno ever at speed tek 345 rwh not bad i think, but has room for improvement so i next go to kennys mufflers in bedford get a custome 2.5 exaust and a x pipe .. Well i still need more ! I get a hold of orval at extreme horsepower off davis blvd tells me he has the best tuning in texas etc etc . so i get the full tune and transmition tune etc.! well strangley my car fells slower .

and you cant go in the shop to look at the chart and the printer does not work ! wow so no chart ( but i swear you picked up more power) . ok right on.. so now i guess it is time for a cam .. i call orval at extreme horsepower he says $2000 and i will tune instal and the works you will pick up 40 hp . I say sounds good to me . so i pay him over the phone via credit card .. well the next week they go on vacation wtf! so all in all week in a half later he tells me the parts are in . So i take my car up there drop it off . I have to go to flordia that week for a business trip so i will have my wife pick it up. I tell him i would like the old parts and i would like the dyno chart as well.. so my wife calls me thursday and tells me she has the car and no chart only the cam. i call him he tells me i mad 380 rwh picked up 40 hp ..

she does not know what to feel due to she does not have car knowledge. so i fly home friday and first thing i do is get in my car go around the block. I start it reve it and it dies wow .. i go around the block and it feels slower than i have ever had it before. ! i dont know what to think ! so next day saturday i call orval at extreme horsepower of course no anewser . so i call speed tek .. They tell me to bring it in . they hook up to it and tell me only a couple things are right . So i tell them to fix it . so get this they put it on the dyno first run before they touch it was 325 rwh oooh!!!! thats slower than my first dyno with cold air intake and dyablo tuner ... they said man this is slower than your first run back in febuary ..

so longer story short they get my numbers to 375.91 rwh and 365.11 torgue now need i say more on who im going to in the future for work . I cant belive this . instaling parts and losing hp a half ass tuner you would see max gains from a good tuner of 10 hp at the most but 50 hp and this guy was loosing me hp.... Guys do not go there. EXTREME HORSEPOWER OFF DAVIS DLVD IN TEXAS .......... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will post charts as soon as i can !!! siting right in front of me. also get this the car was lean everyone knows these cars run on the rich side it was 12ish needs to be at 13ish .. wow ! thought i could save you guys ..

[JEFF2010SSMANUAL]

Sorry to hear about such aggrivation for you. Regroup and find a shop on this website from others with good stories. I hope all goes much better for you soon.

[caper]

damn that was hard to read... paragraphs dude!!!! sorry for your luck.

[BlaSSt Off]

The trip to LMR in Houston would have been worth it. Those guys know what they are doing.

[sleeper101]

Originally Posted by caper

damn that was hard to read... paragraphs dude!!!! sorry for your luck.

Sorry man wanted to post fast. I was verry angry !

[caverman]

Actually there are several good tuners in the DFW area but I'm not sure Xtreme is one of them. I've never had a warm and fuzzy about them but I've never had anything specific either. I have heard some bad rumors about them but I wouldn't post that info since it can be damaging so quick.

Here are a couple you should look.....although Speed Tek is probably good enough for you:

ADM Performance (about the only one I would trust for drivetrain stuff...but that's me)

LG Performance (if ADM wasn't available for some reason they would be next on my list)

Momentum Autosports (seem to be a good place but would have to research more about them)

Speed Tek



Sorry to hear about your misfortune but thanks for giving others a heads up so they can steer clear.

BTW: did Speed Tek ever tell you what the issue was? Was it the tune or did they install the cam incorrectly? Which cam did you go with?

[SGOS252382]

I'm surpised they knew how to install the cam correctly if they're that bad at tuning.

Glad you've got your car running good.

[v6sonoma]

At least things are ok now.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

Wow..that's f'd up, if they don't know jack..

[Sam88gta1]

The problem was 100% in the tune. Didn't change any parts on the car just tuned it correctly. When you have a cam installed in the l99 motors the VVT tables have to be altered or it will not gain any power.

Take a scan of the dyno graph and post it if possible. You can see some of the problem was the very lean airfuel.

[jrc1122]

my brain hurts.... and it sounds like yours does to. Hope it all works out for you.

[SOC]

Sorry To Hear That! They Might Not Be Familiar With American Muscle.
Steve

[JUISSD]

Originally Posted by jrc1122

my brain hurts.... and it sounds like yours does to. Hope it all works out for you.

+1 That was a workout reading that.

If the first shop seemed ok why did you look elsewhere to begin with? At least it's all fixed now.

[SShift]

How are shops like this in business?

[quick89]

glad to hear that your car is running great now
countless story's just like this all over the place ls1 tech etc. all i have to say is Google!
hopefully others read this before going there so they dont get screwed around

[Hicompression]

I would have posted this in the "Texas" forum.

[GMRULZ]

My vote is for Andy at ADM. He can fix you up.

[ADM PERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by GMRULZ

My vote is for Andy at ADM. He can fix you up.

Sad story.

Glad SAM got you tuned correctly.

[MileMAN402]

so is this X-treme Horsepower? who is a sponsor on the forum?

[quick89]

Originally Posted by MileMAN402

so is this X-treme Horsepower? who is a sponsor on the forum?

yes it is they are the only ones off of Davis Blvds

[3min3m2]

Odd that a forum sponsor would not have chimed in here. There goes there camaro business...

[sleeper101]

I will get the chart scanned as soon as my laptop gets back will be here tuesday ! Like i said guys sorry for the tight reading.Yes it is xtreme horsepower !

Also was just the tune that was messed up. That i know of so far . At the moment seems to be running fine!

[Legend]

I had a different expereince with EXTREME Horsepower...Arval was extremely knowledgable about his work and parts...several other Camaro owners where there that day as well as several Challenger SRT8 guys getting work done.

I had a base tune from Magnuson running the TVS2300...pulled 446rwhp prior to long tube headers and intake...after the install and tuning, pulled a solid 515rwhp with A/F running high 11s all the way across the rpm band.

Arvol and his staff had great pricing, great customer service and overall, very satisfied with their work.

I had bought a smaller pulley to run with my set up too but Arvol advised me to not install it unless I went with KB Boost a pump as the A/F ratio would be above 12 and he'd feel better about leaving the stock pulley on there until he could install the KB.

It's all relative really in gauging a business...not every person will be happy and not every person will be mad...for me, EXTREME HP did a great job, honest and up front with all their work and advice....for you, not for some reason.

I don't mean to discount your expereince at all...just adding mine.

[Crowley]

This is the first I have heard bad things about Extreme HP ... it was hard to read what you wrote above and I am sure you are mad as hell .. did you give them any time to take a look at it or fix it? Sounds like you tried and couldn't get them and immediately went to another shop ... I would have worked with Extreme and had them fix it for you ...

Sorry for your bad experience ..

Crowley

[sleeper101]

Well the way i see it! If you cant do it right the first time whats the point! How on gods green earth can your tell me he was not lying ? He said he put up 380rwh . but at speed tek 325rwh? The car died on me . How could a tuner with some exp no see there was a problem ? Unless he did not care! or did not even look at it ! Which i would like to point out i paid for !

But he told me the numbers so he had it on the dyno ! Now you see? Eather a lie , or he has no ideal what he is doing on camaros! You decide ... But one of the two is true and there is no geting around it ! Im telling people so in the future people will not get screwed by him . and i will not go back up there to have him plug in to my tune!

I have got a lot of personal messiages from other people who i will not mention their names! Tell me that he is a snake ! If it was not for speed tek my car would be crap right now. Of course i know people who work for him or other people who were paid etc. are going to tell good stories. But i know better than that!

I hope other people see through that too. One way or another he is going to do it again. If i were some one who read this i would go some where else and let some one do a dyno to see if the numbers are righ! Cause if i would of never went some where else i would of never found out !

Also i know he pays to be on this web site! I like this web site and its not going to help him to have people say good things abought him. The fact is if i pay some one to do a job for me , or if i get paid to do a job for someone. I take my time and i do the absolute best job i can ! On everything i do ! Even if it is taking out the trash. Need i say more ! I will have the charts up in the morning .