DFW PERFORMANCE SHOP THAT SCREWED ME !

[mlee]

Sounds like you need some Headers to open that puppy up and get over 400rwhp...

[Coop]

Had my headers installed there and they did a good job but that was a few months ago. Was going to get a maggie and tune from them but have recently received a few PMs about folks having issues such as this. I am going to go with ADM. Just have to get time to call Andy.

[Crowley]

Did they use your diablo handheld tuner and if so, did they load the "CAM" tune in it? Sounds like something happened and the stock tune was put back in the car?

Crowley

[freemaSSon]

Originally Posted by Coop

Had my headers installed there and they did a good job but that was a few months ago. Was going to get a maggie and tune from them but have recently received a few PMs about folks having issues such as this. I am going to go with ADM. Just have to get time to call Andy.

Look forwards to seeing your car at the shop. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

[freemaSSon]

Originally Posted by Crowley

Did they use your diablo handheld tuner and if so, did they load the "CAM" tune in it? Sounds like something happened and the stock tune was put back in the car?

Crowley

No such animal as a "CAM" tune in a heldhand. They are all referred to as "CANed" tunes.

[383ss]

I keep thinking of the seinfeld episode about use of explanation points.


I would like to hear their side of the story, but it definately sounds like you got screwed.

[jrc1122]

I don't think they have a valid counter argument. He HP went down after a major bolt on and retune?

They screwed him.

[Jekyll-N-Hyde]

As there is quite a Few good shops in Dallas Fort worth the only one I have trusted my car with ( and im picky ) is ADM performance.
In my opinion Tuning/computer work is the most important part of the job I would recommend Andy/Pat to anyone when it comes to Tuning for sure.

they are up front with you and if there is any problems they stand behind there work and make it perfect and you HAPPY

if I had to go somewhere else I would say 21stcentury however as you probably know I had everything done at ADM and im loving every moment behind the wheel .

[Sack Rat 2SS]

I am going to go with ADM. Just have to get time to call Andy.[/QUOTE]

I have been an ADM customer for many years. As of today he only works on LS- powered cars which is his area of concentration. No mustangs, no challengers, no imports. He has tuned and wrenched a few blown customers Cadillac LSA powered CTS-V's. This is the powerplant coming in a year in the Z-28 so he is gaining much experitse before the Z car gets here. My point is that ADM is a dedicated LS powered Camaro 5 specialist located in a central U.S. DFW location. Those of us living local DFW are very lucky to have a quality Camaro 5 tuner/builder here local or close enough for others to send their car from out of state to ADM. In life, it is really good to have choices.

[kaler]

sleeper101 did you retain the VVT?

[lil_red_v6]

they never were like this to me or some of my buddies. u gotta give it some time man not just jump to another shop.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by caper

damn that was hard to read... paragraphs dude!!!! sorry for your luck.

+1. Been thinking of a "Dyablo" tune myself- no numbers on that tho right?

[usmc8411]

Ever think of going back to the shop with the car? Shit happens man, Ive went to adjust things on my car and my touch pad on my laptop has changed a table I had no intention to touch before. I drove my car and I was like WTF is going on? I looked at my tune and found things changed unintentionally.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Jekyll-N-Hyde

As there is quite a Few good shops in Dallas Fort worth the only one I have trusted my car with ( and im picky ) is ADM performance.
In my opinion Tuning/computer work is the most important part of the job I would recommend Andy/Pat to anyone when it comes to Tuning for sure.

they are up front with you and if there is any problems they stand behind there work and make it perfect and you HAPPY

if I had to go somewhere else I would say 21stcentury however as you probably know I had everything done at ADM and im loving every moment behind the wheel .

I recall reading your upgrade Dave and ADM seemed like they were obsessed with being on time, accurate and knowledgeable.

[Crowley]

Originally Posted by freemaSSon

No such animal as a "CAM" tune in a heldhand. They are all referred to as "CANed" tunes.

LOL .. yes, but you can load a tune in it and then load it into your car .. I was referring to the tune the initial shop did for the car when the cam was put in it .. When I had my 04 cobra, I had all of the tunes stored on my PC including my stock one. I could take any of these load them back onto the Diablo tuner and load it into my car.

Crowley

[SK360]

Originally Posted by sleeper101

also get this the car was lean everyone knows these cars run on the rich side it was 12ish needs to be at 13ish .. wow ! thought i could save you guys ..

Just to let you know a 12.x AFR is richer then a 13.x.

And yeah, my head hurts.

[J-Rod6410]

Originally Posted by SK360

Just to let you know a 12.x AFR is richer then a 13.x.

And yeah, my head hurts.

I noticed this too, but my head was hurting sooo BAD i decided to wait to say something

I believe a cam only car should be at a 12.x a/f ratio at WOT

[Jekyll-N-Hyde]

Originally Posted by Hylton

I recall reading your upgrade Dave and ADM seemed like they were obsessed with being on time, accurate and knowledgeable.

No Doubt They are all about making you the Customer Happy. One thing you have to understand as busy as they can be some things are worth the wait and good work is worth the wait imo.

[sleeper101]

yeah the numbers were up side down . 13 to 12 sorry . and i am ok for waiting . just want it done right . I would of waited another week if it was done right but it was not . ill post the charts in a min

[sleeper101]

I did stay with the vvt

[sleeper101]

[sleeper101]

[sleeper101]

There is the dyno charts top one is the finished dyno .. The bottom one is the first dyno sat and the last dyno . Should tell a story !

[lil_red_v6]

so get some long tubes and open it up. you should figure out the problem before tellin a shop off on the net, a shop that alot of ppl i know go to, we all have respect for xtream horsepower. they really are a great shop. but like some one earlier said shit happens some things need to be rechecked, dont mean they did it on purpose. all im askin is please have respect enough for xtream to not slander them on the net please.

[caverman]

Originally Posted by sleeper101

There is the dyno charts top one is the finished dyno .. The bottom one is the first dyno sat and the last dyno . Should tell a story !

I went and re-read your first post (which btw...you should go back and split into paragraphs for easier reading) and I had another question....just out of curiosity.

So he suggested that you install a cam and do that without adding LT headers first? I would've thought the cam would not make 40 hp without letting it breath more than the factory headers would.

To me....that same $2k should've gone towards a set of LTs and a tune. Then that sets the stage for a nice cam down the road. To me that's not a good recommendation to do a cam before doing LTs....not that it can't be done but just seems like it's out of order to me. LTs first....then a cam.

That's the plan I have at least.