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Old 12-09-2008, 03:35 PM   #1
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Question '85 Camaro vs. '87 Mustang and '91 Firebird

hey me and some friends of mine were arguing about who has the better car, and we each think it is ours. I have the camaro, its an '85 2.8 liter V6 camaro berlinetta. Now the firebird is in pretty bad shape, so that isnt the one im worried about. its the mustang, because this guy takes such good care of that car that its almost like new. I do know, however, that most of the parts in it are stock, and it is a convertible. but the thing is wicked fast This is the mustang
This is my camaro

and this is the firebird.
each of these pics was taken at our respective houses about a month ago, and we are racing in a week. do i have a chance?

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Old 12-09-2008, 04:42 PM   #2
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is the 'Stang a V8?(if it's in picture i can't see it my school blocks most pictures)
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:37 PM   #3
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:14 PM   #4
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do those pics work?
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:49 PM   #5
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do those pics work?
pictures work, looks like the 'Stang has a 5.0 so i would think that the race would be his (but i'm not positive) so tell him that since he has a V8 and you a V6 he should remove 2 spark plugs to make it even()
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:56 PM   #6
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I would go with the stang,its a 5.0 and those things are pretty fast
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:44 AM   #7
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yea but he also sucks at driving lol and wouldnt his convertible top make him heavier? plus, the camaro and firebird are stick, and the stang is slapstick

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Old 12-11-2008, 08:13 AM   #8
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The stang with the 5.0 and an average driver with a lead foot will still win against your V6's stock vs stock, even with an automatic tranny vs your sticks.. Especially since his car looks to be in the best shape of the three.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:16 PM   #9
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If you side-swipe him at the launch you could win!
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:21 PM   #10
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pictures work, looks like the 'Stang has a 5.0 so i would think that the race would be his (but i'm not positive) so tell him that since he has a V8 and you a V6 he should remove 2 spark plugs to make it even()
that would be awesome!! "which two do i pick? there's so many to choose from!"
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:22 PM   #11
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so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:43 PM   #13
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so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.
well you say he sucks at driving so that should help you a bit, also you could try doing the race somewhere that has a bunch of corners his 'vert shouldn't have the same cornering you would have (even with T-Tops)
or you could just cheat and put a nail under his tire at you start line
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sorry, but those 5.0s are solid engines if taken care of like that guy has. the 2.8 ain't got much on it, so it's gonna be a driver's race (and that's only if he really really stinks)
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:07 PM   #15
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so i have no chance? great, im gonna lose to a mustang. if there is anything tht i cud do 2 win, please tell me.
slash his tires...
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:17 PM   #16
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You have no chance in the v6... Even in a v8 you would have little chance. The 5.0 is a really good engine and the fox body mustangs are pretty damn light.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:36 AM   #17
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k thnx 4 the input, and no, i wont slash his tires lol at least i can still smoke the firebird
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:09 PM   #18
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hey guys, this is for anyone who cares, but these are the results of the race
1st.mustang
2nd.camaro
3rd.firebird
in the end, it was really close between me and the mustang, because, as i said he isnt a good driver, and he had a short burnout at the start. he only won by about 6-10 ft, and the firebird hadnt even come around the last turn, which is about 100 ft away from the finish. thnx for all your input!!
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:23 PM   #19
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Now go swap in a 350 TPI and show him who's boss
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Old 12-16-2008, 02:33 PM   #20
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k thnx 4 the input, and no, i wont slash his tires lol at least i can still smoke the firebird
maybe, only if the Firebird has a 2.8L. I had a 91 Camaro RS, it had a 3.1L.
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Old 12-16-2008, 04:44 PM   #21
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the race is over, and yeas, i did smoke the firebird. even if i had a 3.1 in my camaro, i would have kicked his ass, it was tht close. and yes the firebird did have a 3.1. and yeas, i wish i had a 350 TPI cuz then i would have been done before they started lol.
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #22
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For my first Camaro, an older Berlinetta, I put an old truck 350 down in it. Wasn't much faster, but it was fun and I learned a lot.
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Old 12-17-2008, 07:50 AM   #23
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this is my first camaro, so its pretty sweet
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:37 PM   #24
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Remove 2 spark plugs LMAO well dude to be honest with you that mustang has a 5.0 so you will mostly likely lose, and might not be very close either, now if you had a 5.0 its a diffrent story.
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Old 12-18-2008, 04:47 PM   #25
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hey guys, this is for anyone who cares, but these are the results of the race
1st.mustang
2nd.camaro
3rd.firebird
in the end, it was really close between me and the mustang, because, as i said he isnt a good driver, and he had a short burnout at the start. he only won by about 6-10 ft, and the firebird hadnt even come around the last turn, which is about 100 ft away from the finish. thnx for all your input!!
it was close.
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