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Old 09-18-2010, 11:46 PM   #1
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Rumored 2012 Camaro Z/28 Standard Features (Edmunds.com)

Standard Features - 2012 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28

Mechanical Features

Engine
6.2L displacement
overhead valves (OHV)
V8 cylinder configuration
gas engine
16 valves
supercharger
premium unleaded (recommended)

DriveTrain
6-speed manual transmission
rear wheel drive
rear limited slip differential

Suspension
front and rear stabilizer bar
MacPherson strut front suspension
multi-link rear suspension

Safety Features

Safety
front and rear ventilated disc brakes
4-wheel ABS
traction control
stability control
dual front side-mounted airbags
front and rear head airbags
passenger airbag occupant sensing deactivation
child seat anchors
emergency interior trunk release
engine immobilizer
post-collision safety system
electronic brakeforce distribution

Comfort and Convenience Features

Power Features
remote power door locks
Convenience
speed-proportional power steering

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Old 09-19-2010, 12:05 AM   #2
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hope there is an automatic option.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:39 AM   #3
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hope there is an automatic option.
I'm sure there is, of course it may be more expensive for the Automatic transmission...
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:53 AM   #4
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Limited slip?
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:56 AM   #5
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hope there is an automatic option.
There was an interior photo of one of the test cars and it was an auto.
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:24 AM   #6
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Hmm... That's not much different from the SS except SC, and some suspension componets... Better come with more for the price tag!
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Old 09-19-2010, 12:50 PM   #7
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That is what I have been saying. Thing better corner like it is on rails. It will be cheaper for me to build up #230 into a car that will smoke a Z28. Taxes and insurance alone on a 550HP car is going to be expensive.

Got to figure all that in on being able to afford the Z28. If PQ gave me money tree back it would be a different story.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:31 AM   #8
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:03 AM   #9
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Hmm... That's not much different from the SS except SC, and some suspension componets... Better come with more for the price tag!
Suspension looks to be the same.

I saw Supercharger, and speed proportion steering as the two differences.



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That is what I have been saying. Thing better corner like it is on rails. It will be cheaper for me to build up #230 into a car that will smoke a Z28. Taxes and insurance alone on a 550HP car is going to be expensive.

Got to figure all that in on being able to afford the Z28. If PQ gave me money tree back it would be a different story.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:13 AM   #10
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Hmm... That's not much different from the SS except SC, and some suspension componets... Better come with more for the price tag!
I don't think there has been any offical word of the price tag so will have to wait and see.
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:11 AM   #11
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:15 AM   #12
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I willing to bet money that it gets a 6 piston caliber up front....
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
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I would like to see

Dual Mode exhaust
LSA named something different.
Auto offered
Would love Mag Ride

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Old 09-20-2010, 01:53 PM   #14
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Mag ride is expensive, I'd rather it be an option than in the trim level.

Frankly I'm disappointed with the available options in general for the Camaro. No need to jack the price up by putting them in trim levels, but things like dvd/nav, LED signals, mag ride, these are things that we should be able to opt for individually. Here's hoping.
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Magnetic Ride would be the single factor that puts the Camaro Waaayyy on top of the GT500. Without it, GM just needs to tinker with the suspension to a ridiculous degree.



$ is the problem though.
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:09 PM   #16
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Magnetic Ride would be the single factor that puts the Camaro Waaayyy on top of the GT500. Without it, GM just needs to tinker with the suspension to a ridiculous degree.



$ is the problem though.
Mag ride would certainly make IRS seem like the worlds better choice...
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:23 PM   #17
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This might sound stupid but here goes.

Would it be entirely crazy to think that GM would price the Z28 too low to make money off it? Think about it. would putting a package together that destroys the GT500 in every way including cost be a bigger win than making money. I understand that General Motors is a company and needs to make money, however, they make money other places, and the good PR of such a thing would bring big attention to GM, something they can never have enough of. So they break even on the Z28 and have something that rules the road. Anyone think I'm off my rocker???
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Old 09-20-2010, 03:39 PM   #18
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If GM made the Z28 have the same performance or better than the GT500, and the same base features included, AND be just a few hundred CHEAPER than the GT500, the industry would take notice!

FYI: Ford only makes like 5,500 GT500's per year. It's essentially a loss leader.
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And that's exactly my point. They would steal Ford's thunder right away from them. And that might be much more important than making money at this point.
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Steal their thunder? Ford has been making GT500's since the 2007 model year and is likely near the end of its production run in the next year or two. I doubt they are too worried about a Johnny-come-lately Z28 offering from GM taking sales away from them.

Sure, if the Z28 offers better performance and an equal or slightly greater price, there will be people that jump ship, but I don't think by the time 2012 rolls around, Ford will be too worried about losing GT500 sales.

If I were Ford, I'd make 2011 the last year of GT500 production and let the Boss 302 be the best performance Mustang offering in 2012.

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Old 09-20-2010, 10:48 PM   #21
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Your right about that. But I was more referring to the general population. Not that the Z28 would steal that many sales, as i have stated thats not what i think thats about, but that it would be looked at as the top dog in its class. I think that is where GM is aiming.
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I don't think the general population gives a crap who the "top dog" is. Usually, that is only the enthusiasts.
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If GM made the Z28 have the same performance or better than the GT500, and the same base features included, AND be just a few hundred CHEAPER than the GT500, the industry would take notice!

FYI: Ford only makes like 5,500 GT500's per year. It's essentially a loss leader.
That was only for 2011... and I don't believe the GT500 is a loss leader. I believe they make good money on each car.
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:57 PM   #24
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Magnetic Ride would be the single factor that puts the Camaro Waaayyy on top of the GT500. Without it, GM just needs to tinker with the suspension to a ridiculous degree.



$ is the problem though.
Magnetic suspension PLEASE!


I'm willing to pay for it if it is offered.
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That was only for 2011... and I don't believe the GT500 is a loss leader. I believe they make good money on each car.
I'm sure they make some money on it; my point being that even if they sold all 5,500 cars at a loss, it barely dents their bottom line. Thus, GM should be able to sell a z28 at a loss, in limited quantities, just to establish dominance and take some market share and make a name for itself.
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