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Old 09-14-2010, 08:05 PM   #51
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I say let's go get Arkansas back, and invite TCU in.

South;

Texas
A&M
TT
Baylor
TCU
Arkansas

North;

Oklahoma
OSU
K-State
Kansas
Colorado
Iowa State (Boise would have been a real good fit here)

TCU deserves a big conference. Arkansas is a throw in, old big 8 team, and you keep the 12 team conference.
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That would be fun, but who does Oklahoma have in the North to compete with on a regular basis? (also, replace Colorado with Missouri )
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I say let's go get Arkansas back, and invite TCU in.

South;

Texas
A&M
TT
Baylor
TCU
Arkansas

North;

Oklahoma
OSU
K-State
Kansas
Colorado
Iowa State (Boise would have been a real good fit here)

TCU deserves a big conference. Arkansas is a throw in, old big 8 team, and you keep the 12 team conference.
PQ, I agree!!! Looks good on paper.
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I think what you're trying to say is that the Big8 never should have rescued Tejas from the fledgling SWC. On that we agree! Nebraska and Colorado had enough of Tejas pushing their weight around - they were wise to leave.
See, when your sports programs are powerhouses in not only football, but baseball and basketball, you can "push your weight around"! If your mens and womens programs bring in the money, "we gotta get paid"! Nebraska and Colorado are just tired of getting their asses kicked by Texas & OU across the board, so they don't want to play in our Big-12 sandbox anymore!!
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That would be fun, but who does Oklahoma have in the North to compete with on a regular basis? (also, replace Colorado with Missouri )
Right. Forgot which meaningless team it was that bolted. lmao

BUT, Idealy it would have been cool to see Boise State and or Utah BYU in the north. Or kick Iowa State and Missouri out. If I had my way it would be different. Becaue you are right, OU would only have OSU to challenge them. Just had to make it logistically make sense and also possible with the current contracts.

But if there weren't already deals recently done, I'd have proposed it this way;

North

Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
BYU
Utah
Boise State
Kansas

South

Texas
Texas Tech
A&M
TCU
Arkansas
Baylor



K-State could piss off at this point.


OU and UT offset.
OSU and A&M offset.
Utah and TT woud offset.
Boise State and TCU would offset.
BYU and Arkansas would offset.
And Kansas and Baylor would offset.


I think it would make for a perfect balance of divisions, and create interest while rewarding teams from the smaller conferences.
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All we need is to get rid of Baylor and replace them with...well...I dunno, anyone else that's not Baylor

UTSA is getting an FBS football team in a couple years...
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:34 PM   #57
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See, when your sports programs are powerhouses in not only football, but baseball and basketball, you can "push your weight around"! If your mens and womens programs bring in the money, "we gotta get paid"! Nebraska and Colorado are just tired of getting their asses kicked by Texas & OU across the board, so they don't want to play in our Big-12 sandbox anymore!!


It was said that a Nebraska 'Decision Maker' was quoted as saying, "Nebraska has been disrespected fo a decade now, and we want to be where we are respected".................

LMMFAO

Win some freakin games if you want respect.

The big ten wants you so they can kick your asses.
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I like PQ's list. A stipulation of Boise State joining the conference should be to rip out the smurf turf. Would be good opportunities for the mountain states to recruit in Tejas but doesn't offer the current conference schools much in the way of recruiting due to the low population of those states.

That's why I liked the possibility of the PAC-10. Nice destinations for road games and exchange of talent/showcase opportunities for each region. Lot's of money involved, television opportunities across multiple time zones, marquee match-ups between USC, Tejas, Oklahoma and UCLA etc.

I think both the Big10 and PAC-10 have rounded out nicely with their new acquisitions. Just wish it didn't come at the expense of the BigXII.
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I like PQ's list. A stipulation of Boise State joining the conference should be to rip out the smurf turf. Would be good opportunities for the mountain states to recruit in Tejas but doesn't offer the current conference schools much in the way of recruiting due to the low population of those states.

That's why I liked the possibility of the PAC-10. Nice destinations for road games and exchange of talent/showcase opportunities for each region. Lot's of money involved, television opportunities across multiple time zones, marquee match-ups between USC, Tejas, Oklahoma and UCLA etc.

I think both the Big10 and PAC-10 have rounded out nicely with their new acquisitions. Just wish it didn't come at the expense of the BigXII.


But don't kid yourself on the destinations for the mountain teams. GREAT places to visit.

And one thing that HAS to be kept NO MATTER WHAT, is the RRR.

If that annual game were to be negotiated IN ANY WAY, I'd leave college football behind like a bad habit.
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North

Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
BYU
Utah
Boise State
Kansas

South

Texas
Texas Tech
A&M
TCU
Arkansas
Baylor
It would be cool to have Oklahoma and Texas play fro the BIG __ conference championship!!!
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It would be cool to have Oklahoma and Texas play fro the BIG __ conference championship!!!
Hell ya. And much later in the year. Obviously, one of them would have a loss built in, but if I could change one thing about the RRR right now it would be to have them play in late November.
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Hell ya. And much later in the year. Obviously, one of them would have a loss built in, but if I could change one thing about the RRR right now it would be to have them play in late November.
If it was chenged to November it would be cool to have it on thanksgiving.
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It was said that a Nebraska 'Decision Maker' was quoted as saying, "Nebraska has been disrespected fo a decade now, and we want to be where we are respected".................

LMMFAO

Win some freakin games if you want respect.

The big ten wants you so they can kick your asses.
Interesting especially since I live in the capitol of Big Red, I have never heard ANYONE say the above, and trust me on this a Nebraska "decision maker" never would. Don't believe everything you read or hear. There were only two "decisions makers" on this deal and I know both of them.

Brothers! We need to get back to original intent of this thread and that was to hate all teams from the evil empire of Florida!
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If it was chenged to November it would be cool to have it on thanksgiving.
That wouldn't happen. Thanksgiving is when UT and OU beat up their little brothers (Texas A&M and Okie State)
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Old 09-15-2010, 05:04 PM   #65
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Interesting especially since I live in the capitol of Big Red, I have never heard ANYONE say the above, and trust me on this a Nebraska "decision maker" never would. Don't believe everything you read or hear. There were only two "decisions makers" on this deal and I know both of them.

Brothers! We need to get back to original intent of this thread and that was to hate all teams from the evil empire of Florida!
Well, what was the REAL reason for the move then?

Nebraska was WIDE open to OWN the Big 12 North. AND a NC game birth was as easy as winning the North (pretty easy), and then winning against Texas or OU most years.

I'm going by ESPNs reports WHILE it was taking place. NO denial from Husker Nation.

Maybe they thought it was too ludacris to even deny. Like a denial could only lend merit to it, which would make perfect sense, but still, I'm a little confused at the whole thing.

The 'No Respect' theory acctualy makes the most sense to me.
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And by "no respect" I'm assuming they mean "not enough money coming our way"
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:20 PM   #67
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And by "no respect" I'm assuming they mean "not enough money coming our way"
Actually, here is one of the quotes. Nothing about respect. I'm trying to find the article I read.

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Consider that our rivalry with OU has been destroyed by our affiliation with the Big 12. Teams that don’t play each other every year are not rivals. When the conference was formed, our football program was at a pinnacle of power and influence, yet we were on the losing end of nearly every contested policy or rules issue. Does anyone in Husker Nation truly believe that this will ever change? Will Texas/OU ever go to a two-year off, two-year on format? Never.
I still say that they could have used this to their advantage.

Instead........ what do they do, ?.............. Fire a coach after a 10-3 season. I don't think they've won 10 games since. Maybe, but not many.

They had every opportunity to excell. Seriously. K-State, Kansas, Iowa State, Missou, and Colorado........... Nebraska should have won that division 70% of the time.
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Typical. Blame everyone else but yourselves. Way to go Nebraska!
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Funny if they win the big 12 then go to the big
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I think OU or Texas will take care of that "what if" one way or another!!! Now OSU, Iowa, Penn. ST, and even Michigan can beat on them for awhile, and if you don't, it will just make the Big 12 look even better!!! I want TCU and Arkansas in the Big 12.
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I want TCU and Arkansas in the Big 12.


Never happen though.

Arkansas ain't going anywhere. They'd rather sit in the SEC and continue to be whooping boys and occasional spoilers.

But, I guess, get beat up in the SEC or get beat up in the Big 12 is neither here nor there. lol
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We had to fire the 10-3 coach due to off the field "activities."
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We had to fire the 10-3 coach due to off the field "activities."
ALLEGED improprieties with a commentator if I remember correctly. Had he went undefeated that year they would have NOT fired him. So it's a non-factor.

Simple fact is that Solich went 42-9 in his first 4 years then had a bad year at 7-7, then went 10-3 wining a bowl game. He won the conference, was coach of the year a few times and played in the BCS title game. Then had his 7-7 year followed by a 10-3, and was canned.

58-19 was his final record. Take the bad year away (EVERYONE will have them) and his record at Nebraska is 51-12. Nebraska hadn't won that candy assed division since, until this passed year.

Frank Solich got screwed. Plain and simple.

And YES, I'm a little ticked that the Huskers bolt for the North East.

It's a respect thing they think they deserve.

Good ridance to Nebraska. (Sports that is, lol)




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I'm not getting into the original fight, I was reading those stats and I got curious- top 10 winningest teams of the last decade:

1Boise State.868 112 17
2Texas.859 110 18
3Oklahoma.821 110 24
4Ohio State.803 102 25
5USC.797 102 26
6Florida.769 100 30
7Texas Christian.766 95 29
8LSU.762 99 31
9Georgia.760 98 31
10Virginia Tech.756 99 32

Makes me think the big shake-up was incomplete. Stacked schedules or not, 112 and 17 is no joke. VT started rough this year but they deserve more credit than they get.
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