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FUTURE TOP DOG OWNER · 12-12-2008, 11:20 AM

Just heard some bad news !! They said that gm canada is shuting down all
operations for the month of jan!!! I guess this puts the camaro on hold for now!!!!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-12-2008, 11:23 AM

If I'm not mistaken, this is normal. Don't get too worked up until we know for sure the Camaro's in trouble.

As of...two days ago (I think), Camaro's still on-track and doing very well.

Croathlete · 12-12-2008, 11:23 AM

Let's see a link... and even if it were true, it would only be in anticipation of starting operations again for the Camaro in Feb.

Hylton · 12-12-2008, 11:30 AM

This will mean a delay for camaro. It's also a good way for GM to put pressure o the Canadian govt.for funding.

bob2the2nd · 12-12-2008, 11:34 AM

its not just canada its most north american plants...

current return date Feb 9th :(

http://www.freep.com/article/2008121...ESS01/81212044

POWERFREAK · 12-12-2008, 11:35 AM

Here's the only article I've seen...they didn't specify which plants are effected.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid={B1B4392C-11D0-4CCC-A3DC-31B4EB3AA1B7}&siteid=yhoof2

*GTAHVIT* · 12-12-2008, 11:39 AM

It almost sounds like the Camaro could continue unaffected as it isn't set for full production until Feb 16.

This may not affect the camaro at all. Seems to be a reasonable thought.

*DGthe3* · 12-12-2008, 11:40 AM

I just heard it on the news at noon. I also found this, it gives some hope:

Quote:

Chris Buckley, president of CAW Local 222, also told CTV Newsnet that GM has announced its car plants in Oshawa, Ont., east of Toronto will shut down for the entire month of January and the first two weeks of February.

Full article

If I'm not mistaken, the Camaro should still be on track. Its production begins right when these plants are supposed to be coming back online. I hope . . .

*GTAHVIT* · 12-12-2008, 11:43 AM

^Get out of my head DG.

If you stay in there too long I'll start saying "eeh" and "zed"....

bob2the2nd · 12-12-2008, 11:44 AM

no offense but i dont see how this wont impact the camaro. At this point I think its pretty obvious we are now going into at least a 6 week delay. Test cars still need to be built and the car tweaked and if the plant isnt operating that stuff doesnt continue to happen.

StoutFiles · 12-12-2008, 11:49 AM

Assuming there is a delay, would this give them time to make sure certain things work perfectly (Ex. ambient lighting). Or will the Camaro go untouched and unworked on while there's a delay?

*GTAHVIT* · 12-12-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob2the2nd

no offense but i dont see how this wont impact the camaro. At this point I think its pretty obvious we are now going into at least a 6 week delay. Test cars still need to be built and the car tweaked and if the plant isnt operating that stuff doesnt continue to happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoutFiles

Assuming there is a delay, would this give them time to make sure certain things work perfectly (Ex. ambient lighting). Or will the Camaro go untouched and unworked on while there's a delay?

Well, my read on the article is they are going to decrease production of cars already available for sale. The Camaro Flex line is only producing 6 or so cars a day and they are not for sale. Regular production starts on Feb 16th. So it may be conceivable that the regular production date won't change. There isn't any money to be saved by delaying the Camaro. The FLEX line isn't fully staffed and they need every dollar asap. So my hope is that they will push to get the Camaro out on schedule. Now, what I can see happening is they reduce the 80k - 100k Camaro's a year down. But that just means the return on investment will take longer...

Someone else has already said it, but, Glass half full mentality.

bob2the2nd · 12-12-2008, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtahvit

Well, my read on the article is they are going to decrease production of cars already available for sale. The Camaro Flex line is only producing 6 or so cars a day and they are not for sale. Regular production starts on Feb 16th. So it may be conceivable that the regular production date won't change. There isn't any money to be saved by delaying the Camaro. The FLEX line isn't fully staffed and they need every dollar asap. So my hope is that they will push to get the Camaro out on schedule. Now, what I can see happening is they reduce the 80k - 100k Camaro's a year down. But that just means the return on investment will take longer...

Someone else has already said it, but, Glass half full mentality.

i hope to jeebus you're right...

shrugs... keep the faith

RallyFever · 12-12-2008, 11:52 AM

The plants are shutting down for production purposes. Test cars will be available and the Camaro will launch as planned. Everyone needs to relax. The Camaro is the one vehicle with guaranteed sales; not to mention they don't even have to rebate or red tag them to sell them.

If there is only one plant producing GM vehicles in Feb, you better believe it will be Oshawa.

SQUALO · 12-12-2008, 11:56 AM

Hang on tight folks, but don't let go

...it's going to be a rough ride from now 'til Feb.

The gov't., the unions & the excecs. are in for a fight of their lives. :fighting0040:

*DGthe3* · 12-12-2008, 11:56 AM

One way or the other, we need to hear from Fbodfather or 80Zedder on this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtahvit

^Get out of my head DG.

If you stay in there too long I'll start saying "eeh" and "zed"....

I don't see any problem with that. Well, besides the spelling of 'Eh' . . .

SQUALO · 12-12-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RallyFever

The plants are shutting down for production purposes. Test cars will be available and the Camaro will launch as planned. Everyone needs to relax. The Camaro is the one vehicle with guaranteed sales; not to mention they don't even have to rebate or red tag them to sell them.

If there is only one plant producing GM vehicles in Feb, you better believe it will be Oshawa.

I agree!

Legend · 12-12-2008, 12:00 PM

I'll take the news as saving money now and the Camaro will begin production at the normal time, 16 Feb 09!

It's not like the test cars aren't built...6 a day for the last few weeks I beleive? They get the bugs worked out, make corrections on 16 Feb and start up slow and then build to normal production!

Now, had the article say "until further notice" instead of "first two weeks of Feb"...yeah, I would be worried!

I think GM needs to launch this car...it won't save them but it will start retruning money invested years ago ASAP! They may very well lower produciton numbers too but in the end, recoup the money in R&D and make alittle extra...that's better than losing all the R&D money and getting nothing in return!

*radz28* · 12-12-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtahvit

^Get out of my head DG.

If you stay in there too long I'll start saying "eeh" and "zed"....

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGthe3

One way or the other, we need to hear from Fbodfather or 80Zedder on this.

I don't see any problem with that. Well, besides the spelling of 'Eh' . . .

and

:sm0 :

HeatherR · 12-12-2008, 12:03 PM

The whole plant (there is more than one line) is not scheduled to be shut down the entire time. Every year they shut down for the holidays, and this year production is scheduled to be shut down longer in many NA plants, but Oshawa will not be completely down...My husband scheduled to return to work on Monday, Jan. 5th. Everyone needs to calm down. They are building them...Now as long as our government comes to their senses everything will be ok

kevin2323 · 12-12-2008, 12:06 PM

yes this is just like chrysler in brampton....they are shut down for the holidays and will not make any more RT challengers till january.

*TAG UR IT* · 12-12-2008, 12:09 PM

Not to be disrespectful to anyone here....but...

I've been around for a while and have read hundreds (scratch that) prolly thousands of speculative posts. If there's one thing I've learned, it's to not get worked up UNLESS word comes from GM. So far, we've heard that everything has on schedule for the plant. If something comes up, GM won't want to talk about it unless it's actually going to affect the production date, etc. If and when that happens, you all know Scott will chime in with some info for us. So far, nothing has happened....which is a good thing.

*DGthe3* · 12-12-2008, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeatherR

The whole plant (there is more than one line) is not scheduled to be shut down the entire time. Every year they shut down for the holidays, and this year production is scheduled to be shut down longer in many NA plants, but Oshawa will not be completely down...My husband scheduled to return to work on Monday, Jan. 5th. Everyone needs to calm down. They are building them...Now as long as our government comes to their senses everything will be ok

By 'our' government, do you mean Ottawa or Washington. Because we don't quite have a government up here right now, and they aren't likely to accomplish anything anyway. If you mean Washington, the treasury department has said they will support the automakers.

rico-2SS · 12-12-2008, 12:16 PM

Plants shut down all the time this time of year - I am 120 miles north of Detroit and this is common practice for them to do maintenace, etc...I am sure it is the same for GM/Canada.....plus with all the vacations it is more productive and cost affective for them to just shut down production lines......It is a little longer this year to their present state.....I am not worried about a shut down as this is somehting I have known for 20 years. My inlaws are Auto makers - But I am not a reliable source

*Mr. Wyndham* · 12-12-2008, 12:19 PM

Nevermind what I said earlier...it's not as normal as I thought.

This doesn't mean the Camaro will be delayed, though. Start of Regular Production (SORP) wasn't scheduled until the middle of Feburary anyways...

12-12-2008, 11:20 AM	#1
FUTURE TOP DOG OWNER Drives: future 500+hp Z28 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CANADA Posts: 30	GM SHUT DOWN IN CANADA Just heard some bad news !! They said that gm canada is shuting down all operations for the month of jan!!! I guess this puts the camaro on hold for now!!!!

12-12-2008, 11:23 AM	#2
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 25,250 View My Garage	If I'm not mistaken, this is normal. Don't get too worked up until we know for sure the Camaro's in trouble. As of...two days ago (I think), Camaro's still on-track and doing very well. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - - *Read Before You Post.*

12-12-2008, 11:30 AM	#4
Hylton Drives: fanboys and ass kissers crazy. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 7,182	This will mean a delay for camaro. It's also a good way for GM to put pressure o the Canadian govt.for funding. __________________ "BBOMG - More than just a car show.... It's an experience!"

12-12-2008, 11:35 AM	#6
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS/M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,146	Here's the only article I've seen...they didn't specify which plants are effected. http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid={B1B4392C-11D0-4CCC-A3DC-31B4EB3AA1B7}&siteid=yhoof2 __________________ 2010 R6P-2SS/RS/LS3 - IBM w/ silver rally stripes / UNDER CONSTRUCTION. NY5thgen.com

12-12-2008, 11:39 AM	#7
GTAHVIT One Lucky Guy. Drives: #22 Tom Henry Racing 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,313 View My Garage	It almost sounds like the Camaro could continue unaffected as it isn't set for full production until Feb 16. This may not affect the camaro at all. Seems to be a reasonable thought. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

12-12-2008, 11:23 AM	#3
Croathlete Danny Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,658	Let's see a link... and even if it were true, it would only be in anticipation of starting operations again for the Camaro in Feb.

12-12-2008, 11:34 AM	#5
bob2the2nd Drives: CGM 2LT RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: newark, de Posts: 542	its not just canada its most north american plants... current return date Feb 9th :( http://www.freep.com/article/2008121...ESS01/81212044

12-12-2008, 11:43 AM	#9
GTAHVIT One Lucky Guy. Drives: #22 Tom Henry Racing 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,313 View My Garage	^Get out of my head DG. If you stay in there too long I'll start saying "eeh" and "zed".... __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

12-12-2008, 11:44 AM	#10
bob2the2nd Drives: CGM 2LT RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: newark, de Posts: 542	no offense but i dont see how this wont impact the camaro. At this point I think its pretty obvious we are now going into at least a 6 week delay. Test cars still need to be built and the car tweaked and if the plant isnt operating that stuff doesnt continue to happen.

12-12-2008, 11:49 AM	#11
StoutFiles Drives: Black/Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 733	Assuming there is a delay, would this give them time to make sure certain things work perfectly (Ex. ambient lighting). Or will the Camaro go untouched and unworked on while there's a delay?

12-12-2008, 11:52 AM	#14
RallyFever Senior Member Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA Posts: 749	The plants are shutting down for production purposes. Test cars will be available and the Camaro will launch as planned. Everyone needs to relax. The Camaro is the one vehicle with guaranteed sales; not to mention they don't even have to rebate or red tag them to sell them. If there is only one plant producing GM vehicles in Feb, you better believe it will be Oshawa.

12-12-2008, 11:56 AM	#15
SQUALO SS D.O.B: June 5, 2009 Drives: 2010 1SS IOM/WHITE RALLYS. Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: York Region, Ontario, CANADA. Posts: 3,332 View My Garage	Hang on tight folks, but don't let go ...it's going to be a rough ride from now 'til Feb. The gov't., the unions & the excecs. are in for a fight of their lives. :fighting0040: __________________ THE PUMPKIN PATCH!

12-12-2008, 12:00 PM	#18
Legend Hello! Drives: 2008 JSB Z06! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,625 View My Garage	I'll take the news as saving money now and the Camaro will begin production at the normal time, 16 Feb 09! It's not like the test cars aren't built...6 a day for the last few weeks I beleive? They get the bugs worked out, make corrections on 16 Feb and start up slow and then build to normal production! Now, had the article say "until further notice" instead of "first two weeks of Feb"...yeah, I would be worried! I think GM needs to launch this car...it won't save them but it will start retruning money invested years ago ASAP! They may very well lower produciton numbers too but in the end, recoup the money in R&D and make alittle extra...that's better than losing all the R&D money and getting nothing in return!

12-12-2008, 12:03 PM	#20
HeatherR Drives: 2009 CTS, 2008 Solstice GXP Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 686 View My Garage	The whole plant (there is more than one line) is not scheduled to be shut down the entire time. Every year they shut down for the holidays, and this year production is scheduled to be shut down longer in many NA plants, but Oshawa will not be completely down...My husband scheduled to return to work on Monday, Jan. 5th. Everyone needs to calm down. They are building them...Now as long as our government comes to their senses everything will be ok

12-12-2008, 12:06 PM	#21
kevin2323 Drives: challenger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: miami Posts: 2,339	yes this is just like chrysler in brampton....they are shut down for the holidays and will not make any more RT challengers till january.

12-12-2008, 12:09 PM	#22
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: THRSS #2 / CGM#1 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 24,390 View My Garage	Not to be disrespectful to anyone here....but... I've been around for a while and have read hundreds (scratch that) prolly thousands of speculative posts. If there's one thing I've learned, it's to not get worked up UNLESS word comes from GM. So far, we've heard that everything has on schedule for the plant. If something comes up, GM won't want to talk about it unless it's actually going to affect the production date, etc. If and when that happens, you all know Scott will chime in with some info for us. So far, nothing has happened....which is a good thing. __________________

12-12-2008, 12:16 PM	#24
rico-2SS Thx TZD. Drives: 2010 Supercharged Custom Camaro Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,195 View My Garage	Plants shut down all the time this time of year - I am 120 miles north of Detroit and this is common practice for them to do maintenace, etc...I am sure it is the same for GM/Canada.....plus with all the vacations it is more productive and cost affective for them to just shut down production lines......It is a little longer this year to their present state.....I am not worried about a shut down as this is somehting I have known for 20 years. My inlaws are Auto makers - But I am not a reliable source __________________ In many cases this isn't even keeping up with the Jones's, this is Jonesing and just plain KEEPING UP!!!

12-12-2008, 12:19 PM	#25
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 25,250 View My Garage	Nevermind what I said earlier...it's not as normal as I thought. This doesn't mean the Camaro will be delayed, though. Start of Regular Production (SORP) wasn't scheduled until the middle of Feburary anyways... __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - - *Read Before You Post.*

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