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Old 09-13-2010, 05:41 PM   #1
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Richmond 4.10's Incinerated!

4k on the gears, professionally installed, stock tires, in 100 pieces! Are you kidding me? Working with the seller now, hopefully I don't have to wait 2 months for my refund from Richmond.
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:53 PM   #2
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WTF! Making me glad I never did this but sorry for you. Hopefully they'll make it right.
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:53 PM   #3
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this is such a common thread anymore it is ridiculous.

I was going to grab a set but there is no way in hell I would anymore. . . who would think Richmond and shit would be in the same sentence.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:09 PM   #4
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wow, crazy....how much power were you running?
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:13 PM   #5
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there's guys on the board that destroyed their 410's on a stock motor.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:14 PM   #6
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what break-in procedure did you follow? was there ever any whine? any wheel hop? what were you doing when they blew?

Not trying to place any blame on you, just getting some facts because I have the gears too.
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Old 09-13-2010, 06:27 PM   #7
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Stock motor with CAI and tune. During the 1-2 shift they exploded. They were professionally installed and lubed to Richmond standards. No wine whatsoever and they were broke in correctly.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:33 PM   #8
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I put it through the heat cycles recommended by the installer and a few guys on the forum. Light driving for 15 min four times with cooling in between. These are performance gears and should handle my power level with no problem. I was skeptical when I saw the sheer size difference in the gears. The stockers are way beefier. If I stay with an aftermarket gear, it will be no steeper than the 3.73. They seem to be comparable in size to the stockers.
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Old 09-13-2010, 09:50 PM   #9
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If you look at 3.70's, you may want to look at the LPE gears. They are made by the original equipment gear supplier and made to OE specs. I had mine micropolished also. I had them set up by RPM Transmission. I like them alot!!
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un-real,, hopefully all goes well with the refund,, too many failures of these gears, has to be a manufacturing problem
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:20 PM   #11
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do a thread search guys. . this has happened MANY times already.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:47 AM   #12
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I'm about 4K on mine since install, so far no problems. Everytime I hear about a failure, I cringe and wonder when mine will go :(
I've been running with almost two qts of RP in the rear end, Pfadt's diff bushings and Spohn rear trailing arms and sway bar. Hopefully that is helping to keep things together.
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:34 AM   #13
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Man, I was seriously considering the 4.33's from Richmond, but after hearing this story....AGAIN and AGAIN....I think I'll wait until a different manufacturer comes out with some better gears. I'm not going to have anything installed in my car that I don't have total confidence in. Sorry this had to happen to you, but thank you for posting and letting the rest of us know....
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:30 AM   #14
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We are no longer doing the gears due to just this. Every one has broken when doing hard launches. Not worth the hassel.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:42 AM   #15
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I think I'm starting to get paranoid about my 4.10's..... but so far... 15,000 miles, lots of spirited driving. mods in sig
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We have only broken them at the drag strip, not on the street.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:27 AM   #17
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what break-in procedure did you follow?
Why do new gears require a "break-in" but the OEM gears do not? Thanks
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:29 AM   #18
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Why do new gears require a "break-in" but the OEM gears do not? Thanks
I don't know the science behind it, but they DO recommend a break-in proceedure, so I would think it'd be smart to follow it.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:37 AM   #19
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I don't know the science behind it, but the DO recommend a break-in proceedure, so I would think it'd be smart to follow it.
No doubt...I'm just interested in the science behind why it would be required.
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Break in is mostly all about engine... not really about gears lol =D
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:56 AM   #21
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Putting any metal through multiple cycles of heat then cooling increases tensile strength. It's just like make making a sword in the old days. Swords were made to shatter not bend. The metal is changed at a molecular level when the correct process is applied. Maybe the stockers are treated before they leave the manufacturer.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:05 PM   #22
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I have been debatting putting 4.10 gears for about 2 months. I am glad I didn't step up and do them yet. I will have to see some better results from Richmond before I install their product. Does anyone know if LPE or another company has 4.10's? Anyone else make 4.10's?
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I was getting 25mpg with my 4.10s and my tranny tune. I have been able to FULLY lock the converter in DOD mode.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:28 PM   #24
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If you follow the break-in for a new car, the rear gears get broken-in easy. But, if you don't break-in new gears, a lot of people will just hammer the gears first time out.
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Break in is mostly all about engine... not really about gears lol =D
lol that you are wrong.
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