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Old 12-04-2010, 12:19 AM   #15
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Pretty accurate information on the Radar and Laser. Two things to remember are Radar use a radio signal which travels into infinity and the new models have very narrow beam and are difficult to detect at off angles. If you are on a straight road the newer radars can clock and on coming vehicle in moving mode from a mile or more away. This distance is increased if your vehicle is elevated like coming off a ramp or hill. The more traffic usually affects the range at which the speeder can be targeted with radar whether in moving or stationary mode. If the road has a lot of curves your car (radar detector) maybe unable to pickup a radar because the radar may not be pointed any where near your radar detector so you have no advance warning. Typically what happens is Officer comes around curve and meets you and clocks your car before you can react. This is another reason officers will run radar near curves and hills, the positioning inhibits your radar detector from picking up residual radar energy from where a previous vehicle was clocked. Most experienced Radar Laser operators are trained to observe traffic and pick the vehicles traveling above the speed limit then activate the laser or radar to clock a specific vehicle. Believe it or not most experienced traffic officers can estimate the speed of an approaching vehicle to within a couple miles per hour. The operator leaves the radar in standby mode and waits until he spots a speeding vehicle and uses the radar to clock a specific vehicle. Experienced officers can pick a specific vehicles out of heavy traffic while moving the opposite direction make the clock and then stop the clocked vehicle after turning around. This is relatively easy out of a plain/unmarked police car. Newer radars can also clock vehicles traveling in the same direction as the police car either in front or behind the patrol car. This capability is very effective on one way roads or multi lane highways with heavy traffic or median barriers.

Lasers work best from elevated positions with a clear line of sight. The target vehicle can be clocked just as easily while it is approaching a Laser operator or as the vehicle is going away and the officer aims the laser at the rear of the vehicle. Lasers are used by highway patrol a lot where 1 car clocks the violators then has catch cars to pull over the speeding vehicles out of sight of the approaching traffic. This is the same basic principal as when vehicles are clocked by aircraft using lines painted on the pavement or V.A.S.C.A.R.. The pilot/observer clocks the speeding vehicle and then advises a ground unit which car to stop and the speed and time of the violation.

Remember a laser/radar detector will not help you if you get clocked by VASCAR, aircraft or a Laser in the distance divided by time mode. A laser operator may use the laser to measure the distance between two objects like trees or signs along the highway. The operator stores this distance in the laser then parks off the highway where he can observe traffic. The operator uses the laser to time the vehicle between the two stationary objects. This will give the vehicles average speed and is just as accurate as using the lasers invisible light bouncing of the vehicle to get the vehicle speed. This is the same principal used in VASCAR which stands for Vehicle Average Speed Computer And Recorder. VASCAR can be used stationary or moving and emits no signal and is completely passive. With a good operator VASCAR is a very effect speed enforcement tool and is used by a lot of Highway patrols. Radar, Lasers and VASCAR are also used by motorcycle officers.

The way an Officer works traffic depends a lot on the Officers motivation. If you have an Officer who is lazy and is just out to get a number to keep his boss off his back he may not be very aggressive on how they determine which vehicles to stop. Some aggressive Officers use speeding as a way to stop a lot of vehicles in an effort to catch people carrying drugs or to catch drunken or drugged drivers. Some Officers just like working speed since its a challenge and enjoy catching the most flagrant violators. There are maybe 5 to 10 percent of Police Officers their departments just as soon not have for various reasons. Not all people make good police Officers so it doesn't hurt to take this into account if you get stopped. Thirty years ago there were a lot of big men who were Police Officers because they liked to fight and the adrenalin rush. Today Police departments try to hire more educated people and are not as concerned with physical stature race or sex. If you get stopped the Officer is going to try and size you up to figure out what type of person you are. It doesn't hurt for you to realize you got caught by one of the best or you got stopped by someone very inexperienced or not as qualified. Your attitude may or may not get you out of a citation because officers don't have as much discretion as in the past but bitching and abusive behavior is probably more likely to get you cited.

As you probably guessed I instruct radar/laser to police officers and have been a police officer for over 30 years and used most of the devices for traffic enforcement. If the public understands how these devices work it helps people understand how they got caught and not that they were profiled or stopped for some illegitimate reason.
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Old 01-01-2011, 09:03 PM   #16
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What's wrong with rocky mount radar ?
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:38 PM   #17
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K40 should be on this list they make hands down the best Radar/Laser detectors on the market. guys of lidar do not include them in the tests since they do not sell them. Have worked in the sales side of things and have tried them all K40 always surpassed the others. I will say that V1 is right there with them but K40 will pay for any tickets that you get with their detectors which puts them out front for me.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:27 PM   #18
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What's wrong with rocky mount radar ?
The Rocky Mountain Radar "passive" radar/laser jammers DO NOT work.

They were offered a $50K award by RadarBusters.com to prove their "passive" jammers work. They have yet to step up to the plate.

Mythbusters also tested Rocky Mountain Radar's "passive" jammers and NONE were effective at all.

Just to check for myself, I actually had a buddy of mine on the state patrol try to nail my car while I used one of Rocky Mountian Radar's latest and greatest, the "Phazer 3" "passive" radar/laser jammer. He did it with no problems with both radar AND laser.

Not bad for a $149 paperweight. :(

They do however give it a 3 year warranty and a 1 Year Ticket Rebate program if you ever get pulled over for speeding and issued a ticket while using it. BUT, here's the kicker... the rebate program is only good if you're going slower than 10 mph over the posted speed limit.

Odds of being pulled over for going over the posted speed limit by less than 10 mph are slim, so the rebate program is "bunk" to say the least.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:26 AM   #19
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:40 PM   #20
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I have found the BEST solution for this......

Go but a Crown Vic, put pushbar, spotlight and a clear LED dashlight on it. Tint the windows and POW, they leave you alone!

I drove an X cop car, White 2000 vic, pushbar, spotlight tinted windows and couple roof antennas. I even had the LED's before the agencies did. I never got pulled over, in fact I had a motor unit running laser waive at me when I went by.... I was like SUCKER.... hahahaha
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Old 03-27-2011, 02:55 PM   #21
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I just bought a Escort 8500 x50 and had it for the 14 day test drive. I ended up sending it back because most cops here use Laser, and like it was said you generally don't get notified of Laser until they already have your speed. It was great at detecting cops driving on the road with their in car radar on, though. I just figured I'll stay under 10 MPH over and hope for the best.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:00 PM   #22
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I just bought a Escort 8500 x50 and had it for the 14 day test drive. I ended up sending it back because most cops here use Laser, and like it was said you generally don't get notified of Laser until they already have your speed. It was great at detecting cops driving on the road with their in car radar on, though. I just figured I'll stay under 10 MPH over and hope for the best.
You should get the Escort 9500ci. The laser jammers work great. (Radar as well).

After Lingenfelter installed mine (Among many other "items"), I had a 600 mile drive home. The unit detected laser being shot at me several times and jammed it. I slowed down to the speed limit (ASAP), hit the mute button 2x, and then let the man get a reading. Worked as advertised and well worth the money.

With radar, you always take your chances since nothing jams radar (That I know of). You can only hope that your detector picks up the radar signal as they are shooting at someone else.

This unit has helped me in multiple situations. And I'm not out driving carelessly at 35 mph over the posted limit. I'd say, on average, 10-15 mph over the limit, which is really not hard to do.

I'd say the unit not only helps you to not get ticketed, but also helps controlling speed since alot of times you can daydream into a speeing ticket.

The Escort 9500ci works great. One thing to note: It is a stealthly mounted system that is NOT designed to be moved from car to car. But that was what I was looking for.
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Old 07-15-2011, 05:08 AM   #23
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What a lot of people don't know is actually how radar guns work. Most radar guns in police cars will readout the top 2 or 3 speeds of surrounding traffic. It is then up to the police officer to make a judgement call to determine who is actually speeding. In heavy traffic this is difficult to do. The best method they prefer to use is laser. That's why most of the time when traveling the interstate system you will find police officers posted up in the median just after an obstacle in the direction of oncoming traffic. Knowing the methods used more than just what equipment they use is also a way to beat a ticket. Usually they post up right after speed limit changes behind obstacles. It's easier for them to nail you with a laser than it is radar. In certain kinds of weather laser is ineffective. Most of all a police officer doesn't even need to use either of those methods. They can simply pace you end of story. With that said, it's probably best not to speed unless on a race track. You put yourself and others at risk. You may be a skilled driver but in my experience I have also met very unskilled drivers, distracted by other things not paying attention to the road or their surroundings, this includes checking mirrors, etc.... If you been to Kuwait you'd know what bad driver's really are. A lot of the problem is the "Me first" attitude. Maybe the US should adopt Germany's licensing requirements LMAO.
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Old 02-01-2012, 09:50 AM   #24
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You should get the Escort 9500ci. The Escort 9500ci works great..
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:39 AM   #25
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I have the Passport 9500ci and had really good luck with the radar portion of it.

I had the laser jammers go off a few times and never got pulled over, so I assumed it worked.

However, I was traveling through the Texas/Louisiana border when I crested a hill and got hit with laser. I was doing 10 MPH over and was able to slow down. I got pulled over and Texas DPS said I was doing 5 over. (I think he just wanted to search the car)

Bottom line is that he was able to "punch through" the jammer at approx 100 yards. I was not impressed with the Passport jammers.

I am looking at doing the Laser Star unit for the ZL1. It seems to have gotten good reviews.

Anybody have any experience with it?
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:39 PM   #26
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I used a V1 in 6 One Lap Of Americas. Never got a ticket,and not from lack of trying. The V1 was great. Had a K40 in an '87 928 Porsche for a while. It worked well but lagged way behind the V1 in alert times. That said the V1 does false more than I would like. The number of radars tracked and the direction they are coming from feature has saved me from several elaborate traps where LEF will show you one radar and hide the second further down the road. The V1 lets me know that there is still one up ahead and to stay slow.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:29 PM   #27
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K40 should be on this list they make hands down the best Radar/Laser detectors on the market. guys of lidar do not include them in the tests since they do not sell them. Have worked in the sales side of things and have tried them all K40 always surpassed the others. I will say that V1 is right there with them but K40 will pay for any tickets that you get with their detectors which puts them out front for me.

Agreed! I have the K40 Combo and love it. This was a solid thread with a lot of information for people to make good decisions on, but I def. stand behind K40!

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