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Old 12-13-2008, 09:00 PM   #1
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Is it too much to ask

to tell my dealer I wont accept delivery if the following items happen...

1. Front plate bracket is installed.

2. Any dealer stickers are placed on the car.

3. They even think about letting some 18 year old wash it.

4. The only person that drives it is the person that drives it off the truck.

The first two are for obvious reason. I will be pissed if I have holes drilled in it or stickers on my paint.

The second two are personal things. I used to work at a dealership, and I know a) they are terrible at detailing cars for the most part, b) idiots do stupid things to cars they don't own.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:02 PM   #2
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Nope, tell them what you want, and they will give it to you. As long as they sell a car.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:06 PM   #3
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I will tell the dealer the same and probably camp out at the dealer on delivery day to make sure.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:08 PM   #4
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to tell my dealer I wont accept delivery if the following items happen...

1. Front plate bracket is installed.
completely reasonable... unless its required by state law
2. Any dealer stickers are placed on the car.
completely reasonable. I dont want my car advertising
3. They even think about letting some 18 year old wash it.
the age of the person doesnt have anything to do with it. I've got a friend of mine who just turned 19 who works at one of the local gm dealerships and he does washing/detailing/paint like no other
4. The only person that drives it is the person that drives it off the truck.
there will be more than the one person driving it off the truck.... some one has to drive it onto the truck....
The first two are for obvious reason. I will be pissed if I have holes drilled in it or stickers on my paint.

The second two are personal things. I used to work at a dealership, and I know a) they are terrible at detailing cars for the most part, b) idiots do stupid things to cars they don't own.


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Old 12-13-2008, 09:09 PM   #5
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You're right on about all of it, but tell them sternly, make it clear how important it is.

Telling them you won't take delivery (I wouldn't take delivery either), just ratchets up tensions.

Remind them when the car comes in. They deal with Vettes, nobody wants them detailing their vette either.
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Old 12-13-2008, 09:50 PM   #6
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It doesn't stop there. Everytime you take it into the dealer (or anywhere else) for service be sure and let them know you are writing down the mileage and do not want more then XX miles on it when you pick it up. Be sure and agree to the number of miles that are acceptable if they must road test it for any reason. I bot one of the very first 2004 GTO's. I could not test drive it, and no one at the dealer other then maybe one or two people had driven one. I bot it then drove it home. The first time I took it in for service I dropped it off and picked it up later that day.

Someone put 90 miles on it. Someone took my car for a 90 mile joy ride. I screamed bloody murder, wrote letters to everyone including someone at GM ( I don't remember who now). They all denied it and whats more interesting is the milage that was recorded when I brought the car in was gone from the ticket when I picked it up. So, watching out for our babies does not end once we get it off the lot!! Needless to say, I have not set foot on that dealer's lot since.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:26 PM   #7
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to tell my dealer I wont accept delivery if the following items happen...

1. Front plate bracket is installed.

2. Any dealer stickers are placed on the car.

3. They even think about letting some 18 year old wash it.

4. The only person that drives it is the person that drives it off the truck.

The first two are for obvious reason. I will be pissed if I have holes drilled in it or stickers on my paint.

The second two are personal things. I used to work at a dealership, and I know a) they are terrible at detailing cars for the most part, b) idiots do stupid things to cars they don't own.
all reasonable requests, but like Spike said, #3 and #4 are more of an individual basis. i detailed for my local GM dealer when i was 18. i always had compliments on my work and the owner had me handle the work on his 03 Thunderbird, 50th Anniv Corvette, and 04 SSR. he even had me go to the auctions with the old guys to pick up cars (about 80 mi each way) & do a couple dealer trades. another guy i worked with was about 25 & he 'had a little fun' with an 02 Lightning that got traded in as well as wrecked a car on the way back from a courtesy customer drop-off. all that was to say that it all depends on how responsible the people handling your car are, not their age.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:42 PM   #8
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Several people will have driven it. The driver dropping it off, the person receiving it from that driver, and a mechanic, the do the predelivery inspection. Most dealerships don't have their own gas pumps (because the EPA can bring you down!) so they fill the gas tank prior to delivery.

Yes, tell them NO STICKER. Yes tell them NO FRONT PLATE BRACKET.

I worked for another dealer that sold LOTS of vettes....We had a 40+ guy in the detail shop. He got complaints as much as anyone would. He's done the work over 10 years, I've seen him work, but still happened. Most dealers have common sense and hand wash the "sensitive" cars, instead of using a car wash.

I've seen new cars and trucks get delivered with as high as 79 miles (A Tahoe Hybrid a few months ago) from the factory.
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:47 PM   #9
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...Most dealers have common sense and hand wash the "sensitive" cars, instead of using a car wash...
we hand washed all the cars. well... we had car brushes and a power sprayer. chamois dried every one too (freaking black ones had to be done quick).
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Old 12-13-2008, 11:55 PM   #10
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Is it too much to ask to tell my dealer I wont accept delivery unless the only person that drives it is the person that drives it off the truck?
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Several people will have driven it. The driver dropping it off, the person receiving it from that driver, and a mechanic that does the predelivery inspection.
Yes, it is too much to ask that no one at the dealership be allowed to move the car in and out of the service bays and then onto the lot (or into the showroom).
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:50 AM   #11
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I would say that you aren't asking to much. Just be cool about it and most salespeople will understand that it isn't your run of the mill car. I asked my dealer before I became a salesperson myself to not detail it or do a lot of the things that you are asking for. I got a 2000 back in 1999 and all the plastic was left on it. The car had 8 miles on it, but CamaroScotty is right. There are some things that they did back then and still do now such as inspections, check oil and transmission levels, fill with gas, washer solvent, etc. I was happy with everything when it was all said and done.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:12 AM   #12
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I have in writing that the front plate bracket will not be installed. My dealer sales a lot of vettes and promised i'll get the same treatment.

As far as driving it....might not be able to get that one. Introduce yourself to the manager of the dealer and let him/her know your concerns. If you trust the dealer as a whole then you'll be fine.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:46 AM   #13
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to tell my dealer I wont accept delivery if the following items happen...

3. They even think about letting some 18 year old wash it.
I would rather have a younger person wash it than a 30 year old who is still washing cars...
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Old 12-21-2008, 03:48 AM   #14
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I would rather have a younger person wash it than a 30 year old who is still washing cars...
i'm 51 and i detail cars.
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:31 AM   #15
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My main concern would be the car cleaning part.
There are some that would accidently drop it on
concrete (while washing) and just keep on washing
now you got scratches all over....I have seen this happen
at a car wash,...were they might have 10+ people washing
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:47 AM   #16
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I bought a new vette not long ago and the dealer had to buy it from another dealer to get the options I wanted. The deal was very tight so they wouldn't flatbed it up and the car already had a hundred test miles on it that they didn't tell me about. It ended up having three hundred miles on it when I took delivery, two small scratches on the left front fender and a rather large one on the driverside doorsill. I wasn't very happy about it and I let the sales manager know it. What really burned my britch's was how all the people in the sales office acted surprised I was upset! To make a long story short I talked to my lawyer and he said I could easily force them to unwind the deal if I wanted, but instead I got a few other concessions including an extended warranty in case something goes wrong in the longterm. They offered to have the scratched areas repainted but I turned them down (didn't want non-factory paint or repairs showing up on carfax, plus its really my wifes car and she loves it as is.) as they are very difficult to see and I will probably add more in the future as I intend to drive this car and enjoy it. Rest assured though, they know I mean business about my Camaro and have already been promised it will not be driven by anyone at the dealer without my knowledge and permission. If I were you, I would go into the Sales office several weeks before your Camaro shows up and just freak out on everyone (not like waving gun freak out,) including the manager just so they know you mean business, I intend to just as a reminder!
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:02 PM   #17
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I bought a new vette not long ago and the dealer had to buy it from another dealer to get the options I wanted. The deal was very tight ........
I wasn't very happy about it and I let the sales manager know it. .....I got a few other concessions including an extended warranty in case something goes wrong in the longterm. They offered to have the scratched areas repainted ......its really my wifes car and she loves it as is.) as they are very difficult to see and I will probably add more in the future as I intend to drive this car and enjoy it. ....... If I were you, I would go into the Sales office several weeks before your Camaro shows up and just freak out on everyone .......... I intend to just as a reminder!
Let me get this right, to get a very lean deal and earn your business they had to pay a couple of drivers' to fetch an unseen car over 100 miles away. They offered to fix scratches that the driver was ok with and gave you more finacial consideration. Are you sure that a loud, angry display in the sales area
BEFORE your new baby comes in is the best way to ensure first class treatment by the ba$ta*rds who went out of their ways to ruin your first buying experience?
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:07 PM   #18
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I have already requested no front bracket to be installed, but I will probably ask for the no detailing and no stickers as well. I trust my dealer to not do donuts with my car when it gets off the trailer, and hey it is just the V6 so maybe he will not really want to hehe.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:34 PM   #19
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I'll just show up before I go to work one day all dressed in my police uniform and politely tell my dealer not to abuse my Camaro in any way like front bracket or stickers...lol
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:27 PM   #20
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It is their job to do what you ask. Get their acceptance of this list in writing.
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Old 12-21-2008, 04:57 PM   #21
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I have already requested no front bracket to be installed, but I will probably ask for the no detailing and no stickers as well. I trust my dealer to not do donuts with my car when it gets off the trailer, and hey it is just the V6 so maybe he will not really want to hehe.
How would you know if the guy who loads the car on the trailer did a couple quick donuts before he loaded it???
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Let me get this right, to get a very lean deal and earn your business they had to pay a couple of drivers' to fetch an unseen car over 100 miles away. They offered to fix scratches that the driver was ok with and gave you more finacial consideration. Are you sure that a loud, angry display in the sales area
BEFORE your new baby comes in is the best way to ensure first class treatment by the ba$ta*rds who went out of their ways to ruin your first buying experience?
Sorry for the late response, I lost track of this thread. The sales manager was brother in law of the other dealers salesman and they knew the car had over 100 miles on the odo and scratchs that they didn't disclose to me.They told me car would have about 180 miles on it from trip up plus or minus 18 normal new car miles after delivery. The car had over 300 miles on it when I took delivery. They said they were parade miles, not test drive or an unwind deal miles. Thats a long parade route. So my problem was with the failure to disclose this info. Also, I have bought and sold many used corvettes, "this was my first new one" and you may not be familar with services like Carfax, but they trace repairs and services done on cars. If I would have had this repaired it would have shown up on such a report and had a negative impact on potential future resale of this car. I would never mislead someone on the condition but felt it would be easier to explain the scratchs than a trip to the bodyshop. In summary, I felt they were selling me a used car at a new car price. I would have been upset if this was a ten dollar Toaster, the fact that it was a nearly fifty thousand dollar car.? Yea, I was real loud and angry. If this wouldn't have been a problem for you and your interested in buying my vette at some point in the future, I hope you will make a point of keeping in touch with me!
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:05 PM   #23
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the 2007 Jeep Wrangler i am driving now was inside the showroom when i first saw it and signed the paperwork. It had 0 miles on it. The salesman said he watched it turn to 1 mile when he went across the street to put gas in. I picked it up from the detail bay around back and when i drive off it was still at 1 mile. I guess they backed it off the transport truck and right into the showroom in reverse. was the least miles ive seen on any vehicle. Hope the camaro is the same since. haha.
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I think those requests are reasonable and I plan to do the same. In fact I will request that I accept delivery of the car with the plastic still on it if possible.
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