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Old 06-13-2012, 06:07 PM   #1
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reviews on black iceolator?

i just got it and been itching to get it installed just cant find the time but in the meantime just wanna know the gains and the experience from the people that have it...fill me in fellas and ladies
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Old 06-13-2012, 06:24 PM   #2
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Ummmmm I like it. I like it a lot. It took about 60-70 miles before I began to feel the difference. So you may be a bit underwhelmed for the the first 50 or so miles but once the ECU learns how to manage the changes you will definitely feel a difference.
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #3
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OP... Try using the search button. There is tons about the black iceolator.
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:34 PM   #4
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Just wanted personal intake on iceolator from everybody, I guess I'm excited lol-any pre req things I shud be doing from guys with experience on installing it cuz I'm getting it installed tomm...wt glue is used to seal it? Is silicone good? I dnt know I think the installer said sillicone shud be good to seal the iceolator
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:29 AM   #5
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Are you doing the install?
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Old 06-14-2012, 12:54 AM   #6
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no having a guy at the shop do it for me..why
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:06 AM   #7
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Because that swivel 13mm ratchet is a life saver if your doing it yourself
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:22 AM   #8
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lol ok ill keep that in mind but is sillicone a good thing to apply for sealing the iceolator or do u need the permatex gray? i think thats what its called. Also i guess installing this will make the exhaust sound a lil more throaty i guess right when i rev it?
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It really won't do anything for the exhaust at all. It's best if you go with the rtv stuff. You can get it at any auto zone or advanced auto
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Yes RTV is what you use. I actually did notice a slight change in my exhaust. A bit more free sounding is the best way to describe it. Nothing dramatic. Your current exhaust may not exploit it though. Your guy will have to make some modifications to your existing gasket as well. It's pretty easy to figure out though. Even a caveman could do it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:27 AM   #11
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Thank u guys , rtv-can u tell me the name in full? Is it permatex gray?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:23 AM   #12
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The gray 1 minute stuff is fine.
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I used permatex and l have to agree it definitely is worth the money for the boost it gives you.
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In the Sponsors classifieds, V6 bolts on section Tracy just left some dyno results on the 3/8" versus the 1" isolator.

He said that down low the 1" showed a few more HP than the 3/8" but nearly tied until about 5,800 rpm but at 6,500 the 1" showed a 14HP loss. So that makes me think a few things:

1) Now I remember way back when one of the initial tests on the 1" Mace was done, it too showed a loss at the peak RPM range, but that was written of as a fluke or tune issue. Makes me wonder if it wasn't fairly accurate and maybe the 12mm wouldn't be the best all around spacer??

2) The RX black ice spacers are gasket matched, whereas the MACE is matched to factory holes. If the heads were not gasket matched for Tracy's tests, could that have caused turbulence resulting in the loss?? (I've asked Tracy this in the other thread and awaiting his response now)


Also, does anyone know if the 12mm MACE spacer is two separate pieces like the 1" or one full piece like the black ice?
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:19 PM   #15
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I noticed a change in my exhasut note as well.

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Yes RTV is what you use. I actually did notice a slight change in my exhaust. A bit more free sounding is the best way to describe it. Nothing dramatic. Your current exhaust may not exploit it though. Your guy will have to make some modifications to your existing gasket as well. It's pretty easy to figure out though. Even a caveman could do it.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:24 PM   #16
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:50 PM   #17
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KMP- have any of you guys that are infinitely smarter than I am done a side by side comparison between the 25mm mace and the 1" black ice? I've been on the fence since Tracy said he was working on the 1". I'll have to look at the dyno later; I know the tq difference on the low end of the mace had been a topic of much conversation. But a 14hp loss at peak is rather surprising and could be a deal breaker.
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Follow up on my last post...

Tracy said that the tests we done without matching the heads....so maybe it could be possible that some turbulance came into play....but maybe not.

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KMP- have any of you guys that are infinitely smarter than I am done a side by side comparison between the 25mm mace and the 1" black ice? I've been on the fence since Tracy said he was working on the 1". I'll have to look at the dyno later; I know the tq difference on the low end of the mace had been a topic of much conversation. But a 14hp loss at peak is rather surprising and could be a deal breaker.
we'll we've had a comparison between the RX 3/8" and the MACE 1", but not both 1" spacers versus each other. The ONLY difference is that one is gasket matched (the RX) and the other is not and I wonder if that really makes a difference or not?
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Old 06-14-2012, 05:40 PM   #19
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Just ordered the works from Tracy for this reason. CNC TB, RX polished & ported IM, and 3/8" Iceolator. The loss of power at the top end is not a fluke or tune issue especially if it keeps repeating itself on the 1 inch spacer.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:24 PM   #20
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The black Ice-olator is awesome, get it, period! The best bang for your performance buck, hands down. I noticed its gains more than I noticed the gains from my $450.00 CAI and $700. high flow cats.

It also compliments well with the ported TB and ported IM.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:36 PM   #21
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Does anyone remember what the gains for the Rx 3/8 iceolator were over stock? I am now even more impressed with Mace's Ported Manifold because it yielded at 30+ hp gain over stock at peak with the 25mm insulator. Makes me wonder what type of peak gain is possible with the 3/8 iceolator and the Mace Manifold?
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I believe it was 20hp / 22tq but that was off peak.

Chances are you would get almost the same power from both
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:52 PM   #23
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The Ice-olator plus ported IM (from mace) im not sure if they have been tested together yet. Like you said the mace gasket and IM tested at about 32hp/30tq.

I would imagine that the 3/8 ice-olator + ported IM together would yield similar results.

Either way, quite impressive for simple, low cost bolt ons. However after tomorrow mace will be no longer offering the ported IM. I believe though that RX still will offer it.
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I believe it's after Sunday btw.

But yea, I agree. They will probably yield similar results. Luckily, I got my manifold order in on time
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Me too. I ordered Mace's Ported Manifold on Tuesday. I remember reading something from the big rx iceolator thread that if the manifold was ported you need to do port matching with the iceolator. Is this true?
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