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Old 09-17-2010, 06:52 PM   #1
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anyone use dodo juice wax

has anyone used dodo juice products on there car, i just got some for my silver camaro. ive heard very good things and i like they have specially formulated waxes for different colors, anyone with any experience
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Old 09-17-2010, 10:20 PM   #2
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Dodo Juice makes a solid product. I don't by into the color specific nonsense, wax is wax. Higher end paste waxes like the dodo line are usually blended with polymers for durability. Dodo's waxes smell great, but I always end up back to Adams Americana, more bang for your buck IMO.


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Old 09-18-2010, 12:29 AM   #3
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I have lots of Dodo Juice products to include some they don't currently sell in the US. Their top of the line shampoo is my favorite maintenance shampoo ever: Supernatural Shampoo. Also outstanding is Red Mist Tropical (good luck finding a longer lasting and slicker QD/spray sealant).
There waxes are quite nice though don't get too crazy about colors - that's something that won't last very long, and with such a small amount of wax film being left on the paint the colors make a very very very small difference - its more of just a selling point.
Their latest waxes are two that are blended with a little synthetic protection for added durability and shine. I've yet to try them (we have WAY too many protective products as is) but I'm sure they'll be a lot like Fuzion.
If you're looking for something easy to use, stay away from the hard waxes and the Supernatural. While I love Supernatural and own the full sized wooden tub, it is a harder product to use compared to the rest of their line and offers very little if any benefit over some of their other waxes.

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thanks for the info mutt, i actually bought the trial size 6 pack 3 hard and 3 soft, im gonna do one coat with the hard and one with the soft i hope it will be still pretty easy since ill be useing my porter cable polisher
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Dodo Juice makes a solid product. I don't by into the color specific nonsense, wax is wax.

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thanks for the info mutt, i actually bought the trial size 6 pack 3 hard and 3 soft, im gonna do one coat with the hard and one with the soft i hope it will be still pretty easy since ill be useing my porter cable polisher
Right on. I only apply wax by hand using an applicator, and even then a little goes a long way. I've used a Supernatural sampler 5 times and it's only half gone. Now of course I have the full tub so I won't be using that much anymore.

I think you'll find they're some very nice products - but of course you can't expect miracles from any wax in durability or shine.
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luckly im not expecting miracles my paint is really nice washed every week 2 weeks the most spray as you go wax each wash and a nice coat of nano wax so i just want something to make my silver even more shiny =)
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Wax doesn't shine your clear coat. Polishing is what brings out the gloss.. Wax is purely a protective layer to help keep the finish looking its best. The only quick way to give your paint that freshly polished look without polishing is using a Glaze, like Adam's Brilliant Glaze. I've used a lot of glaze's, this Adam's glaze is second to none. It can be applied on top of a wax, or under a carnauba wax like dodo juice.
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never heard of it.
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never heard of it.
It's a UK based car care company. DodoJuice.com - i've seen a lot of people rave about the stuff - I ordered a few $15 "sampler" jars a while back. It's a good wax, they smell fantastic - but IMO "color specific" waxes are nonsense; and you get way more bang for your buck with Americana.
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Wax doesn't shine your clear coat. Polishing is what brings out the gloss.. Wax is purely a protective layer to help keep the finish looking its best. The only quick way to give your paint that freshly polished look without polishing is using a Glaze, like Adam's Brilliant Glaze. I've used a lot of glaze's, this Adam's glaze is second to none. It can be applied on top of a wax, or under a carnauba wax like dodo juice.

Wax can certainly help a car shine. While the majority of the look of a car will have to do with the condition of the paint job, wax/sealant can help add a certain look. This can be shown in cases in which wax often mutes down metallic flakes as it isn't an optically clear substance, but more translucent.
Glazes often times have oils in them to help create a wet look, and are mainly used to help conceal defects while adding a bit of bling to a car for a limited amount of time.
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luckly im not expecting miracles my paint is really nice washed every week 2 weeks the most spray as you go wax each wash and a nice coat of nano wax so i just want something to make my silver even more shiny =)
Take into account a wax will leave your silver car looking more liquid-like while toning down the flakes a little bit. Research carnauba jetting for more information on that. A sealant will brighten the paint and add more "shine" which some people like more.

Regardless, the most important thing is to keep her well protected so contaminates come off easily. Easy washing = less of a chance to install swirl marks. Of course silver hides defects rather well, but the difference in jacked up silver paint and polished silver is quite stunning.
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Wax can certainly help a car shine. While the majority of the look of a car will have to do with the condition of the paint job, wax/sealant can help add a certain look. This can be shown in cases in which wax often mutes down metallic flakes as it isn't an optically clear substance, but more translucent.
Glazes often times have oils in them to help create a wet look, and are mainly used to help conceal defects while adding a bit of bling to a car for a limited amount of time.
I agree whole heartedly. I'm getting great durability with the Adam's Brilliant Glaze under carnauba wax 8 weeks and counting. In a controlled test [stand alone glaze - no waxes or sealants] I got 6 weeks of noticeable difference between taped areas of my work van stored outdoors 24/7. 6 Weeks of durability with weekly washes is outstanding for a glaze. Give it a whirl next time you need a glaze.
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Wax can certainly help a car shine. While the majority of the look of a car will have to do with the condition of the paint job, wax/sealant can help add a certain look. This can be shown in cases in which wax often mutes down metallic flakes as it isn't an optically clear substance, but more translucent.
Glazes often times have oils in them to help create a wet look, and are mainly used to help conceal defects while adding a bit of bling to a car for a limited amount of time.
Wax may give your paint more depth, but it absolutely is NOT going to make it any shinier than it is once you finish polishing it. Wax is not a shining agent, it is a protectant. We're not talking about hardwood or tile floors here. It's car paint and polishing is what cleans it up and makes it shine.

I can definitely prove this with a video.
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Wax may give your paint more depth, but it absolutely is NOT going to make it any shinier than it is once you finish polishing it. Wax is not a shining agent, it is a protectant. We're not talking about hardwood or tile floors here. It's car paint and polishing is what cleans it up and makes it shine.
I can definitely prove this with a video.

While polishing is the single greatest thing to improve the finish of any vehicle, the last step product can certainly add shine.

While we're certainly not talking hardwood or tile floors, car wax (carnauba wax) was adopted from wood care. This is where Meguiar's get's to boast it's been around since 1901: because they took a furniture wax (wax used on wooden pieces) and began applying it to car body panels, which were, of course, wood back that long ago.
One scientific way to measure "shine" is to use a gloss meter. Such instruments have been used to show the difference various LSP's can make by various people. It seems sealants add more initial gloss, while actual waxes need a day or two in order to come to their full potential. I'm guessing this is because of the need to wait longer for all the solvents to truly evaporate, leaving only the thin film of wax behind.

The inability to see the difference between LSPs on a well prepped vehicle only goes to show how important the polishing process is. I don't want to take anything away from this lengthy and important step, because it truly is the biggest thing you can do to improve the look of a car's finish. At the same time, LSP's have been shown to add gloss, though no one should expect a crazy easy-to-see difference like polishing provides.
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If you need a meter to see the difference, then to the human eye there is no difference. That's exactly why I say that wax does not add shine. It may add depth to the shine, but shinier is not what you will see. I say this because the last thing I want to do is recommend a product, have someone use it, then look at it and go, "What's the difference?" They may understand that the wax protects the paint but most folks are looking for a drastic difference in the look of their paint. If they have polished their paint to perfection, there will be no drastic difference.

This is a common misconception that people have today when it comes to the word "wax".
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