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Old 09-18-2010, 01:28 AM   #1
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Afghanistan pictures thread Deleted? Why?

So why was the "Afghanistan pictures" thread deleted? I didnt post anything I wasnt suppose to....
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Somebody else probably made it political. Sorry man, not everybody plays nice.
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Somebody else probably made it political. Sorry man, not everybody plays nice.
Well that sucks, I had a bunch of new photo's I was going to upload. O well I guess.
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The Internet offers anonymity (for those who choose to take it). We have more freedom here than anywhere else.
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ok... just change what i said... change "the internet" to "Camaro5.com"
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ok... just change what i said... change "the internet" to "Camaro5.com"
Expect to see this closed as well. You know the NO politics! Or there's trouble
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Expect to see this closed as well. You know the NO politics! Or there's trouble
well that's my point. you mind your P's & Q's, or it's OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!



you might come up missing if someone with 50,000 posts on here is having a bad day.

but really, i've seen highly controversial threads stay up for days and days. what's up with this one about "women in gym pants"?

if you asked me, i'd tell you that i don't care. but i could understand if it got taken down. i wouldn't fuss over it.
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i enjoyed the Afghanistan pictures though. never saw anything inappropriate.

i know a guy who spent a couple years in Iraq. now he had some photos that you'd sware were from a horror movie.
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Expect to see this closed as well. You know the NO politics! Or there's trouble
I know, but thats my point there wasnt any Politics to Afghanistan photos. The two guys that where they changed there posts. I do dont get it?

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i enjoyed the Afghanistan pictures though. never saw anything inappropriate.

i know a guy who spent a couple years in Iraq. now he had some photos that you'd sware were from a horror movie.
And yes, Ive got some very very horror movie pictures also. But I know they would get deleted if I posted them.
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So why was the "Afghanistan pictures" thread deleted? I didnt post anything I wasnt suppose to....
Cause you smell funny

[You've been out of TP for a while now.]


Just click the userCP link in the top and start a photo album, problem solved.
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well that's my point. you mind your P's & Q's, or it's OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!



you might come up missing if someone with 50,000 posts on here is having a bad day.

but really, i've seen highly controversial threads stay up for days and days. what's up with this one about "women in gym pants"?

if you asked me, i'd tell you that i don't care. but i could understand if it got taken down. i wouldn't fuss over it.
It has been said that this is a privately owned site and because of that they can delete what they choose. I would guess the mods don't frown on degrading women as much as they frown on politics?
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Well that sucks, I had a bunch of new photo's I was going to upload. O well I guess.
well Stovall i for one appreciated your pics. Maybe it got to real for some not wanting to see how rough you guys have it over there. I thankyou for your service and you all stay safe!
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no politics.. no free speech

on the internet... MAKES PERFECT SINCE

goes back to that anonymity as mentioned above.
Since nobody knows anybody, or can do or say anything back (in the real world) people are much more likely to get stupid about things. Internet fights are quite famous for that very reason.
Now you can create your own site and get as stupid as you want... its free.

Camaro5 however... doesnt want that here because if they allow it.... that implies that they agree or condone the behavior.

what if I put up one of those digital picture frames in your front yard... but make its a 4'x4' frame... and on that lets display a continuous slideshow of gay porn, racist organization support photos, anti-america photos, pro-terrorist photos, and some anti-God photos.
I bet you would take that down in a heartbeat so that nobody would think you approved of the images displayed in your yard.

its the same situation here. Camaro5 doesnt want to "endorse", officially or implied, anything that goes against the ethical and moral standard that most of society has set for itself.


even though we do allow objectification of women. though many of our photo threads stay "somewhat" respectful and tatsefull... but its primarily guys here, and with that you have your "typical guy" hormone driven statements... fact of life.
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no politics.. no free speech

on the internet... MAKES PERFECT SINCE

goes back to that anonymity as mentioned above.
Since nobody knows anybody, or can do or say anything back (in the real world) people are much more likely to get stupid about things. Internet fights are quite famous for that very reason.
Now you can create your own site and get as stupid as you want... its free.

Camaro5 however... doesnt want that here because if they allow it.... that implies that they agree or condone the behavior.

what if I put up one of those digital picture frames in your front yard... but make its a 4'x4' frame... and on that lets display a continuous slideshow of gay porn, racist organization support photos, anti-america photos, pro-terrorist photos, and some anti-God photos.
I bet you would take that down in a heartbeat so that nobody would think you approved of the images displayed in your yard.

its the same situation here. Camaro5 doesnt want to "endorse", officially or implied, anything that goes against the ethical and moral standard that most of society has set for itself.


even though we do allow objectification of women. though many of our photo threads stay "somewhat" respectful and tatsefull... but its primarily guys here, and with that you have your "typical guy" hormone driven statements... fact of life.
This is not the same situation here!!!

Dude have you ever seen the pictures I posted in the tread "Afghanistan pictures"???? Because from what your saying here, you havent! I never posted anything bad or demoralizing to anyone here! This thread was strictly Afghanistan pictures like it said!! No blood, no guts, nothing along these lines... "Witch I have plenty of"

Now if you wanted to post this hipacritical bullchit in the other thread go for it!! But this thread had nothing to do with any of what you just spoke about!!!!
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Stovall,

I didn't see the posts that caused the thread to be deleted, but I did see some of your photos. Thank you for sharing them, and an even bigger thanks for your service over there.

As for the other type of threads mentioned earlier, this womans opinion is...

1) There are some beautiful and sexy women on C5. That they have the confidence and attitude to post their pics shows how beautiful and sexy they are on the inside too. Heck, if I was 20 years younger I'd join in! lol

2) Men like to look at and appreciate the beauty of the female form. Women like to have all that makes being a girl stuff appreciated. It's a great part of human nature that works.. best not to interfere with the ying and yang. Besides, the Mods (IMO) do a great job of making sure a pic doesn't cross the line. I've never seen anything stay posted that I considered offensive.

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Stovall,

I didn't see the posts that caused the thread to be deleted, but I did see some of your photos. Thank you for sharing them, and an even bigger thanks for your service over there.

As for the other type of threads mentioned earlier, this womans opinion is...

1) There are some beautiful and sexy women on C5. That they have the confidence and attitude to post their pics shows how beautiful and sexy they are on the inside too. Heck, if I was 20 years younger I'd join in! lol

2) Men like to look at and appreciate the beauty of the female form. Women like to have all that makes being a girl stuff appreciated. It's a great part of human nature that works.. best not to interfere with the ying and yang. Besides, the Mods (IMO) do a great job of making sure a pic doesn't cross the line. I've never seen anything stay posted that I considered offensive.

Just my .02
Thank you very much.

Only problem is there was no women period in this thread we are talking about. Everyone keep on talking about other threads, this thread had no pictures of women in there at all. "because there is none here"
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only on the internet do we not have freedom of speech of self expression.
Privately owned site.

Poitics cause fights. Fights have to be moderated for content. Our mods don't want to babysit all the time.

I for one am glad I have a place to come where I don't have to think about it.
Nobody is sensoring anything.

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It has been said that this is a privately owned site and because of that they can delete what they choose. I would guess the mods don't frown on degrading women as much as they frown on politics?
YES, they DO frown on degrading women.

Unwanted comments and material is deleted ALL the time. And threads have been deleted in the past. Just like the one in question in this thread.


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Stovall,

I didn't see the posts that caused the thread to be deleted, but I did see some of your photos. Thank you for sharing them, and an even bigger thanks for your service over there.

As for the other type of threads mentioned earlier, this womans opinion is...

1) There are some beautiful and sexy women on C5. That they have the confidence and attitude to post their pics shows how beautiful and sexy they are on the inside too. Heck, if I was 20 years younger I'd join in! lol

2) Men like to look at and appreciate the beauty of the female form. Women like to have all that makes being a girl stuff appreciated. It's a great part of human nature that works.. best not to interfere with the ying and yang. Besides, the Mods (IMO) do a great job of making sure a pic doesn't cross the line. I've never seen anything stay posted that I considered offensive.

Just my .02




And lets not forget. This is a place to come and have fun. Off Topic on a Camaro site??? Makes perfect sense.

The rest of the forum is a place to come and have fun and learn and share ideas about a car we are all passionate about.

Politics is NOT fun. Only controversial.

Stovall, I think you should have got an explanation as to why it was closed, maybe you will get one. (As long as you were the one who started the thread)

We are not prudes here. But we do expect as smooth running site as possible.
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Thank you very much.

Only problem is there was no women period in this thread we are talking about. Everyone keep on talking about other threads, this thread had no pictures of women in there at all. "because there is none here"
PM a mod. They will be happy to answer your question.
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PM a mod. They will be happy to answer your question.
I have already PM The_Blur about it. Ive still not gotten anything back.

And Yes I agree, I would like to know why they closed it and deleted it. I was going to post more pictures, but im not going to if they are just going to close it again. I though people enjoyed the pictures. "at least they said they did"

Anyways Thanks Randy.
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Camaro5 doesnt want to "endorse", officially or implied, anything that goes against the ethical and moral standard that most of society has set for itself.


even though we do allow objectification of women.
niiiicccccccccce

that whole thing about "endorsement" doesn't even need to be said, because there is a disclaimer on the site already.

"All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of 2011 Camaro Z28 Camaro Forum / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com, nor Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message."

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2) Men like to look at and appreciate the beauty of the female form. Women like to have all that makes being a girl stuff appreciated.
men like to do a whole lotta things... but most of these things would never be allowed on here.

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Politics is NOT fun. Only controversial.
politics is entertaining. but speaking about controversial... innocent threads coming up missing - that's the controversy at hand.

i didn't see where the picture thread got political.
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I cannot explain the 'why' about the Afghanisan pictures thread, but I can give you the 'what'. It is currently 'moderated' which means that it is still there, but its only viewable to the moderators and administrators.

Now, KeepItGreasey there are a few things you need to understand about the site and how we run it.

This website, while viewable to the public, is privately owned and opperated. As such, the administrators have full control over what is allowable and what isn't. The main role of moderators is to get rid of anything that admin feels is inappropriate for the site. That could be anything from moving threads to more appropriate sections to banning members from the site.

So, in the examples mentioned here (women and politics) site rules #1 and #3 apply (respect and no politics).

For women, we remove pictures that we feel wouldn't be appropriate for our wives/girlfriends/mothers/daughters to see. Likewise, we also remove disrespectful comments. In the past, the threads have gotten out of control with members consistently ignoring public warnings and as a result, the entire thread got deleted (often accompanied by thank you's from the women of Camaro5). However, the 'girlie threads' have been going on longer and longer each time as our members have learned to control themselves better, which is exactly what our goal was.

Now, politics. We don't allow political debate. We tried it before the last US election and we thought it could work. We were mistaken. There was too much spillover, where a debate in one thread would get carried over and ruin an otherwise unrelated thread. Not good. Plus, it took a disproportionate amount of our effort to just try and keep it clean (rule #2: disagree, don't attack). In fact, it was so much that it took away from our ability to moderate the rest of the site. So, we canned the entire thing.
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I have already PM The_Blur about it. Ive still not gotten anything back.

And Yes I agree, I would like to know why they closed it and deleted it. I was going to post more pictures, but im not going to if they are just going to close it again. I though people enjoyed the pictures. "at least they said they did"

Anyways Thanks Randy.
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politics is entertaining. but speaking about controversial... innocent threads coming up missing - that's the controversy at hand.

i didn't see where the picture thread got political.
You could have missed something. Got deleted before you realized it had gone bad.

And politics are only entertaining to those who can keep it objective and respectful. Which is rare. Unless you consider it entertaining in a Cage Fight, WWE, MMA kind of way..... and in that case, ya, I agree, but it creates division. Sad but true.

It's been tried here. NEVER worked.

BUT, we don't even know why it was closed and deleted.
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Sad to see your pics not available. I had a son in the AF, never shared much so yours meant a lot to see them. Thanks for giving your time.
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You can say or post anything on the internet so long as it's your backyard your doing it in. Camaro5 is someonelese backyard, you are visiting ther home and must play by there rules.

That being said, you can rent a server for about 20 buck a months and start a site for soldier picture exchange..... Not to difficult. Then you could set the rules.
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