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Old 07-17-2009, 05:15 AM   #1
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Omg I think I found the one I want! Is this one good?

http://slo.craigslist.org/ctd/1268280599.html

i'd have to travel to go see it so I don't know if it's worth investigating or not..

I know it's a firebird but it's a sister car..

It's freaking beautiful!

Is it really a Trans Am? Hood looks different.

lots of miles, how dependable do you think it would be? How much work would I probably have to put into it? I'd LIKE a car I wouldn't have to do anything with..

anyone that can get a car report on that vin?

oh wait found one on their website

everything looks good, two owners.. then this

"05/13/2009 California
Police Report Accident reported
Involving right side impact "

How bad is this?
can I negotiate them down in price?

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Old 07-17-2009, 05:53 AM   #2
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Kelly blue book value has it at $5,595.00, I'll let you deside if your willing to pay that persons asking price with the car having been in an accident.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:06 AM   #3
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well if I could get the price down, how dependable do you think it would be for a few years?

I don't want something like my current car where something new pops up (and breaks) every month
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:13 AM   #4
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The only way I would pay $10k is if it had the WS6 package (the T/A hood that you mentioned), otherwise I wouldn't pay no more then $7-8k.

See if they can tell you exactly what type of repairs had been done and then take it to a mechanic that you know and trust and have it looked over to verify what they told you. If they can't tell you walk away. I avoid wrecked cars unless I know what was fixed and see if the fixes will be an issue later.

With it being wrecked and no WS6 package, I wouldn't pay no more then $6k for it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:19 AM   #5
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As far as the motor the LS1's (which this car has) are very dependable. I have 160,000 miles on mine and have only had the alternator go out and the rear main seal. The car has never left me stranded. I do not baby my car but I do maintain it very well. I would ask to see the records for service done on the car, this way you can know if the owner kept up with it or not. If there are no records, then the owner could say their grandma only drove it to church on Sunday and changed the oil every week, nobody would be able to disprove that statement even if it is BS.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:21 AM   #6
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Kelly blue book value has it at $5,595.00, I'll let you deside if your willing to pay that persons asking price with the car having been in an accident.
I checked and kelly blue book has it as $12k, maybe I'm doing it wrong
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:22 AM   #7
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The only way I would pay $10k is if it had the WS6 package (the T/A hood that you mentioned), otherwise I wouldn't pay no more then $7-8k.

See if they can tell you exactly what type of repairs had been done and then take it to a mechanic that you know and trust and have it looked over to verify what they told you. If they can't tell you walk away. I avoid wrecked cars unless I know what was fixed and see if the fixes will be an issue later.

With it being wrecked and no WS6 package, I wouldn't pay no more then $6k for it.
Oh I've never had a mechanic so i'd have to pay someone to inspect it I suppose. Good to know i can probably get the dealer lower.

Well anyway I suppose if i look hard I could find a newer car in better condition for less $ huh. I'd have to get financing though so this would have been nice and I LOVE the firebird. Maybe it's worth it? I don't know now..
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:11 AM   #8
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It is the base firebird "firebird coupe 2D" not formula, Trans Am, or
Collectors Edition.


http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:12 AM   #9
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:54 AM   #10
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It is the base firebird "firebird coupe 2D" not formula, Trans Am, or
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Nope, it's a TA, the spoiler and bumper covers are dead giveaways. As mentioned before it just isnt a WS6 TA.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:30 AM   #11
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If it doesn't have this hood...not worth it...

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Old 07-17-2009, 10:47 AM   #12
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Nope, it's a TA, the spoiler and bumper covers are dead giveaways. As mentioned before it just isnt a WS6 TA.
My bad, you are correct, the nose did give it away.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:57 AM   #13
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Yeah, that is overpriced by a few thousand.
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:11 PM   #14
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It is really nice but remember when financing if it is over priced the bank will want you to come up with the difference for a down payment. This is with most banks I have used anyway so I could possibly be wrong. Someone here may be able to clarify that for you. If so you may be able to get them down on the price by telling them the bank would only lend so much. It's worth a try if you really want the car. Even if you don't get this one don't get discouraged there are plenty of nice cars out there you could find a good deal on and with less miles i'm sure. Good luck!
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:06 PM   #15
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It is the base firebird "firebird coupe 2D" not formula, Trans Am, or
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http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=
It's the trans am, according to carfax and the seller
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:29 PM   #16
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Be sure to inspect the right side thoroughly. Open the door check the jamb out. Check EVERYTHING's alignment. Interior panels, door and fender (other than the note at the bottom), pop the hood and look to see if the shock tower had any damage to it. Also remove the spare tire cover (same as the 3rd gen) and check for any repair work done to the quarter panel.

I would pay probably $6500-$7500 depending how bad I wanted it. I got my 99 last year with 130K on it for $4600.00. It needed about $600 dollars worth of parts and it runs beautifully. Keep in mind it seemed like it was quite neglected. (common stuff brakes, shocks, water pump, plugs!, wires!, drivers power window motor)

Note: Its real easy for a lazy mechanic to bow the bottom of the fenders out near the doors. It appears that car has them bent a little bit. It is a real easy fix just have to bend the bracket back to its original position and be careful jacking it next time.
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Old 07-17-2009, 05:36 PM   #17
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If it doesn't have this hood...not worth it...

That's not true. The LS1 WS6 and SS hoods are not sealed ram air hoods, and they don't yield any more horsepower than a lid. It's just cooler looking.
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Old 07-17-2009, 06:23 PM   #18
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are power window motors still a problem in these cars? both of mine went out in my 83
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are power window motors still a problem in these cars? both of mine went out in my 83
OMG, yes. Worse than the thirdgens.
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OMG, yes. Worse than the thirdgens.
I wouldn't say worse. Almost better in the sense that is much easier to change than a thirdgen. Mostly because the door panel comes off so easy.
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I think it's worse because of the composite doors. My replacement bolts came a little loose and have enlarged the mounting holes by rattling around, and my brushes cracked off when I was adjusting them. Such a hassle.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:40 PM   #22
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i know a guy who was selling his T/A 6spd t-tops like this one but black, over here in Oklahoma city for 3k... Its black and has a few nics and stuff, but if i was in the market for a old car i would have bought it.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:53 PM   #23
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That is a lot of money for a car that old, especially if it's been wrecked. Regardless of KBB, do you want to spend 10k on a used firebird with 100k miles if you don't know the owner or story. I'd stay away, or offer them what you think is fair and be done with it. Buyers remorse is a bitch. Good luck!
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Old 07-18-2009, 09:18 PM   #24
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KBB is way over on everything. Use edmunds TMV. Seem to be right on if you don;t want to pay for black book.

KBB "valued" my 2007 C6 1LT M6 with 17K at excellent private party at $36K YEA RIGHT! Edmunds TMV was $28.5K. I was able to sell for $29.5K. A far cry from KBBs $36K. Considering I only paid $39K for the car brand new in 2007 with GMS, I'd say I did just fine.
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