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Old 06-16-2011, 04:52 PM   #51
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Yep....same concept.

Obviously more money though because you're getting hard lines as opposed to all rubber.

If you're wanting more looks and willing to spend the money the Tech AFX is the way to go. For me I use an engine cover so the Tech AFX would be hidden.

Now...I will say that I had at least two guys that had Tech AFX say they wish they would've gone the rubber hose route because if you have to do anything with the spark plugs you have to remove the Tech AFX. I don't know how true that is or if you would even need to mess with your plugs.....just saying that's what I've been told.
I'm not sure if would have to remove the TechAFX heater hoses to get to spark plugs, (I'll check later) but on my engine I'd have to remove SC air filter and coil covers to get to the spark plugs anyway
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Old 06-16-2011, 06:58 PM   #52
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I got my hoses from Napa. They were cross referenced from the Autozone part numbers through the Dayco website. In fast, they are Dayco hoses. They are 5/8" hoses with a 3/4" flare on one end, the ends being opposite for each hose. They needed slight trimming to make them the same length just like others stated. They worked out great and fit perfectly.
Eric, do you have the NAPA/Dayco part numbers? Are the same as the Gates numbers?
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Old 06-16-2011, 08:52 PM   #53
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This is a great DIY which i'm about to do but i found this set which looks good also.....

http://www.techafx.com/catalog/19
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Old 06-16-2011, 09:14 PM   #54
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This is a great DIY which i'm about to do but i found this set which looks good also.....

http://www.techafx.com/catalog/19

I'd rather spend $40 for the rubber hose vs. $189 for that kit. A bit overpriced IMO.
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:22 PM   #55
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True, a lot cheaper for the rubber ones but my opinion the metal ones looks so much nicer, cleaner.
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:23 AM   #56
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Just bought the hoses on amazon, finally getting to a mod I should have done very soon after I got the car.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:36 AM   #57
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I got my hoses from Amazon..."cheap and easy mod"

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Old 09-09-2011, 12:31 AM   #58
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did you have to buy extra clamps for this mod or can you reuse all the stock clamps?
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:53 AM   #59
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You can reuse the stock clamps.

I used regular hose clamps by the firewall simply because it was easier for me to get a small socket up by the firewall to tighten them. On he water pump side of it I used the factory clamps because they look a little better to me and they were easy to put back on.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:28 AM   #60
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True, a lot cheaper for the rubber ones but my opinion the metal ones looks so much nicer, cleaner.

When using the metal hoses the engine looks like it was built that way, it's a more natural appearance.
The rubber hoses regardless of the location looks like some kind of workaround fix however, much better looking when they're not spread across the top of the motor.

Reallistically, I'm amazed GM would put hot rubber heater hoses across the top of the engine.

Does anyone know if the 2011 / 2012 models have these hoses across the top of the engine too?
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:32 PM   #61
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well my 2011 has the hoses across the top, so i willing to bet the 2012 will also.
FYI i found the gates heater hoses @ autozone and NAPA
PN# gates 18077 = E87610 / NBH 10077
PN# gates 18078 = E87611 / NBH 10078
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:12 PM   #62
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well my 2011 has the hoses across the top, so i willing to bet the 2012 will also.
FYI i found the gates heater hoses @ autozone and NAPA
PN# gates 18077 = E87610 / NBH 10077
PN# gates 18078 = E87611 / NBH 10078
Those gates hoses are very decent looking.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:39 PM   #63
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I do not remember seeing anything about moving the heater hoses in the installation instructions for the coil covers when I was looking at them. Come to think of it, I do not remember seeing the hoses across my intake the one time I had the engine cover off, guess I need to look.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:40 PM   #64
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Hey guys. Thanks for all the info posted here. I just got my hoses and will be doing this mod this weekend.

Question. By burping, do you mean just removing the top cap to let air escape then closing it?

If that's not correct please let me know. THANKS AGAIN GUYS!

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Old 10-16-2011, 10:03 PM   #65
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Ok Did this today and a few tips.

1. I hate working with anti-freeze. Really I do. (add brake fluid to the list too)

2. Get your self a hose cutter, useing mine made this 100% easier, cut the hoses at the pump/water neck and at the firewall. Then I didnt have to mess with them at all after that.

3. CUT the hoses off the nipples at both ends with a box knife, it may take several passes but it saves time.

4. Burping the radiator...

First, realize you wont get all of the antifreeze back in on the first pour, I didn't and spilled from overflow all over the radiator/intake.

Second, Don't expect to sit and run the car at idle or by reving the engine to 2-3k to get the temp up. My temps got to 250 but the water pump/thermostat/fan never kicked on. The car has to be moving. Got out and drove around the block and it instantly came on. parked and filled up again. Repeated the drive around the block and radiator is still full and all fluid in my catch can is gone.

Took a 30 min drive around the area around my house and checked the level and for leaks (sprayed down the engine before the drive to clean everything off). Will repeat tomorrow after work and if its good I'm calling it done.

Won't be surprised though if i need to top off the overflow tank it was low/empty, Ill have to drop by an auto parts store and pickup a small bottle.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:07 AM   #66
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well my 2011 has the hoses across the top, so i willing to bet the 2012 will also.
FYI i found the gates heater hoses @ autozone and NAPA
PN# gates 18077 = E87610 / NBH 10077
PN# gates 18078 = E87611 / NBH 10078
2012's have relocated heater hoses from the factory complete with metal tubing. Mine are on order.
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:21 PM   #67
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2012's have relocated heater hoses from the factory complete with metal tubing. Mine are on order.
So, us 2010's really got hosed eh?
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:38 PM   #68
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:40 PM   #69
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2012's have relocated heater hoses from the factory complete with metal tubing. Mine are on order.
You happen to have the part number for those 2012 hoses?
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Old 10-17-2011, 05:27 PM   #70
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2012's have relocated heater hoses from the factory complete with metal tubing. Mine are on order.
Are they the same as the AFX hoses, do you have pics. links to check them out?
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:38 PM   #71
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Are they the same as the AFX hoses, do you have pics. links to check them out?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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I also ordered the 2012 hoses but meanwhile I did the relocation using the hoses from NAPA. Here is a quick shot.
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Well I ordered a set of the 2012 hoses. Will be posting pics once they arrive and I install them.
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good info will...my engine is actually coming out, and i will be looking into the 2012 kit as i can get at gm cost of 52.00.. that is a big diff from 189...not knocking your kit...i am interested at looking at a 2012 camaro as i have not had an oportunity yet..do you know how your kit is diff then th gm kit? maybe that could justify why it is 3 1/2 times more $$$..as far as i know, they have not moved any connection locations as my club member is a gm line mechanic and he said that nothing has changed from the 10-11 as far as he knows... it calls for 1 hr replacement, but for now does not know if this part will phase out the 10-11 models heater hoses...gm does not like to make 2 seperate parts that do the exact same thing...he seems to think that since the 2012 is the latest version , the older models will be replaced with these hoses when they need replaced..imo, i could be wrong...till they are out , we will not know...
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Old 10-31-2011, 04:59 PM   #75
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I have the Tech AFX kit on my SS. I like the OEM style quallity of the design and it makes the engine bay a lot cleaner. However, it can be a pain to get to the spark plugs and some of the header bolts.
I ordered the GM hoses and will change the heater hoses the next time I have to change plugs or work on the headers or drain the coolant for some reason.
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