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Old 09-21-2010, 08:50 PM   #1
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Question Rough shifting in the manual SS

Does anyone else feel like the transmission in the manual makes for a kind of rough ride? Would upgrading to a better clutch possibly help with this? I drove a 2011 Mustang a couple months ago just to size up the competition, and it just seemed to shift far more smoothly. If I am very careful and deliberate in engaging the clutch, I can make it shift smoothly...but it just never seems to come naturally in this car.

Is it possible I just got a bad one? Or that I somehow messed it up with only 12,000 miles on it? I admit I did a lot of my stick-shift learning experience on this car, however I don't think I was ever so rough with it that I broke anything or wore anything out. Plus I learned pretty quick so maybe only 2,000 miles of that was rough driving.

Any advice would be appreciated...anyone else having this experience? Does the Camaro just not have a good clutch for beginners? I know it has a pretty springy clutch pedal which gives it a different feel than the Mustang or Challenger.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:53 PM   #2
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Uhh, I'm not sure. I've had people tell me the shifts are so smooth they feel like they're riding in an automatic.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:00 PM   #3
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hey man every SS ive been in, they all shifted real smooth, maybe you do have a bad one. Bring it to the dealer and have em check, or ask to compare yours to one on the lot. Goodluck and keep us posted
PS thats the one thing i dont like about the V6 tranny, very clunky and rough
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:02 PM   #4
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I guess I'm the only one who has a heck of a time with 2nd to 3rd quickly? It's a total crap shoot for me.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:04 PM   #5
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Before buying the LS3 I owned an 08 Mustang GT and it was easier to drive and shift smoothly. Take-up on the clutch started early and was always the same. You could get used to it by just driving around the block.

Conversely, the Camaro seems to engage at different points, making it hard to drive smoothly. Take-up is high and abrupt, which makes it tricky. With 6,200 miles on my Camaro I still cannot drive it as smooth as the Mustang after just one day.

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Old 09-21-2010, 09:05 PM   #6
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I think your problems is the return spring on the pedal ... It has a very heavy feel to it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:06 PM   #7
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Uhh, I'm not sure. I've had people tell me the shifts are so smooth they feel like they're riding in an automatic.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:07 PM   #8
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armando416, what rpm are you shifting at, I found that if you shift 2500 or preferably 3000 rpm during normal driving it shifts pretty smooth. any lower than that its kinda jerky.
mhood, I have to confess, I have trouble with the 2-3 shift also in quick shift situations. Just need more practice!!!!
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:07 PM   #9
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I, too, have done a lot my manual driving learning on my 2SS. However, it still seems to me that it shifts more smoothly into certain gears than others. For instance, shifting into 5th gear on mine seems to be the most fickle. On the other hand, I have had experiences where there were I have encountered no jerkiness at all. So I chalked it up to experience or lack there of. IMO, I think that it's just a matter of taming the beast.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:46 PM   #10
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could be a part in the clutch. when i first got the car it would never engage in the same spot and it was hard just to get to a roll without looking like your learning how to first drive a manual.
new slave cyl t/o bearing alot more predictable where clutch grabs but still not where i would like the clutch to be.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:53 PM   #11
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Does anyone else feel like the transmission in the manual makes for a kind of rough ride?
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Yes, definitely. Kind of annoying sometimes. If my shifts are slow and deliberate than it feels smooth. If I shift a little bit faster, at a speed at which I consider normal, than the shifter feels kind of rough, especially 3rd.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:48 PM   #12
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when I first got the car, I was horrible at shifting and it was always jerky...I started doing deliberate rev matching and taking my time and it got better...now, I don't even really have to look at the tach, I can just feel it. I still have my days when it's a little jerky, but that's usually when there's another person in the car and I'm thinking too much about it. When I'm driving by myself, I'm more relaxed and can just slip right into gear without really feeling anything.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:06 PM   #13
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I have to agree that the Camaro has a sensitive clutch assembly. I have been driving manual cars for over 30 years on the street and the drag strip. I took my car back to the dealer and explained the inconsistant clutch engagement. First it engages very firmly, then the same shift engages like an automatic. And this is when shifting, lets say from 2-3, at the same speed and RPM. The dealer says "the clutch is operating as it was designed." It is kind of frustrating because you can't insist that it is broken. So, all this to say you are not alone. I love the car but the clutch does leave something to be desired.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:21 AM   #14
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I have no problems with the clutch. It's the gearbox I have a problem with.
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:32 AM   #15
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yea the clutch in the M6 is a little too mushy for me. I have to get a different clutch set up.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:17 AM   #16
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I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one experiencing this. I love my car, but after test driving a Mustang it was like night and day as far as the clutch was concerned. I was driving the Mustang smoother on a 20 minute test drive than I do my own Camaro after a year of ownership...somewhat frustrating to say the least. I will try shifting at a little higher RPMs as someone suggested, who knows it may help...I don't think I'm shifting too early but holding on to a gear a bit won't hurt anything other than my gas mileage. I need to take my car into the dealership soon anyways to get the leather redone (the infamous wrinkled leather) so I will bring this up while I'm there. I wonder if they'll let me test drive another M6 Camaro on the lot to see if its my car or just the Camaro in general?
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:45 AM   #17
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I just recently bought my camaro and it does shift rough, I thought it was my car.
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Old 09-23-2010, 09:56 AM   #18
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It's not just you. I recently went to the dealership for a test drive/dealing/drooling. Ended up driving three different SS's because I felt like there must be something wrong with the clutch set-up after the first drive. Very difficult to get that clutch to disengage smoothly, especially under any kind of serious acceleration. He reluctantly admitted that it has been the most common issue sited during test drives. BTW, I have driven manuals of every variety for over 20 years now so I knew it wasn't just me.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:15 AM   #19
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I have found that on starting out the clutch is sensitive, so I keep my heel on the floor and have overcome this. Shifting after start I found that if I only depress the clutch 1/2 way instead of all the way to the floor I get easier, smooth shifts, especially when I "get on it".
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:34 PM   #20
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armando416, what rpm are you shifting at, I found that if you shift 2500 or preferably 3000 rpm during normal driving it shifts pretty smooth. any lower than that its kinda jerky.
mhood, I have to confess, I have trouble with the 2-3 shift also in quick shift situations. Just need more practice!!!!
Shifting in low rpms is tricky to get smooth. You really need to practice and pay attention. But I've found shifting higher in the rev's up around 3k helps smooth it out.

I have noticed that the 2-3 shift at low rpm seems to "clunk" into 3rd, but with more revs it slides in smoothly.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:28 PM   #21
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I had the same problem till I heard a pop sound from the clutch pedal and the clutch started engaging smoother. I won't even bother looking for what it was because it drives much easier now and i'm a GM tech
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:25 PM   #22
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I'm glad I came across this thread, I picked up my Camaro 3 weeks ago and thought it was just my driving! Glad to know I'm not alone. As I got used to the power of this thing, it has been a lot smoother. I don't have a problem ever with 2-3 or higher, it's 1-2 that is more likely to be jerky for me. Even when I pay attention and try to rev match I often can't get it quite right.
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