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Old 09-26-2010, 11:16 AM   #1
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"Transformers Camaro" Transforms The DriveShaft Shop 1000hp Axles To Metal Shavings

Hi All:
Here's The Scoop:

My Camaro Has A Total Of 4000 Easy Street Miles On It. About 2000 Miles Are With The "Level 5" 1000 Horse Power Axles By The DriveShaft Shop And 732.5 Rwhp. I Drive This Car Very Easy, If I Do Beat On Something, I Beat My 6 Second Dragster.
I Have A Total Of 6 Burnouts On This Car. One On The Street And 5 Yesterday At Island Dragway. It Was On The Fifth Attempt That I Launched The Car At 4500 Rpms And BOOM!
I'm Disappointed Because I Was Easy On The Car At The Track. This Was The First Time At The Track For This Car And I Was Only Running 1.8 To 2.0 60 Foot Times. I Was Launching Very Light As The Car Has Street Radials And Not Slicks. The Other Launch Rpms Were 3000, 3500, 4000.
The Car Has A Centrifugal Blower That Ramps In Power Easy Unlike A Positive Displacement Blower.

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Old 09-26-2010, 11:21 AM   #2
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When and if you decide to sell dont tell them what you did with it.
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:44 AM   #3
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Call The Driveshaft Shop and ask them why their 1000hp axles couldn't handle < 75% 1000hp?
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Old 09-26-2010, 11:58 AM   #4
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Wow, that is a bummer. :( It is very unfortunate that the DSS axles broke because there are many companies that private label those axles.

On the flipside (IMO) check out GForce1320 axles. They are not DSS and were designed on a clean sheet for the Camaro.
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Old 09-26-2010, 12:18 PM   #6
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But the real question is how fast did it go? And yes , we know that you enjoy beating on something! bring it to Teds and put it in line with the others. I know that he is getting backed up with cars by the minute!
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Old 09-26-2010, 12:19 PM   #7
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what kind of suspension mods have been done to support the rearend other than the halfshafts? if there is still a lot of travel in the rear end the half shafts will only go so far.
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:01 PM   #8
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But the real question is how fast did it go? And yes , we know that you enjoy beating on something! bring it to Teds and put it in line with the others. I know that he is getting backed up with cars by the minute!
my camaro went 10.23 @ 136 mph..............then i woke up and went to island dragway and broke my axle
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:20 PM   #9
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my camaro went 10.23 @ 136 mph..............then i woke up and went to island dragway and broke my axle

Ah yes, I have those dreams too! Just that I make sure that i'm dreaming about single digits. Guess I'll be seeing you at Teds.
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:26 PM   #10
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Contact the driveshaft shop and tell them what happened
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Old 09-26-2010, 01:55 PM   #11
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Contact the driveshaft shop and tell them what happened
how good is the driveshaft shop for warranties?
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Old 09-26-2010, 02:02 PM   #12
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how good is the driveshaft shop for warranties?
Not sure but since your under the 1000hp mark and they failed you got a pretty good argument against the shafts. Keep us posted
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i've read that these axles have a warranty for 1 year. i'll keep you guys posted about how the driveshaft shop handles my claim.

i'd like to get their 1400 horse power axles, just to be on the safe side.
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:24 AM   #14
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GM should engineer a solid axle option which would solve this issue completely.

Solid Axle = for those planning to race it.
IRS = for those who just use it to do everything except race it.

Although with that much HP, you likely would break any kind of rear axle or differential eventually.
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:29 AM   #15
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GM should engineer a solid axle option which would solve this issue completely.

Solid Axle = for those planning to race it.
IRS = for those who just use it to do everything except race it.


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Old 09-27-2010, 11:21 AM   #16
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Slicks would be easier on the drivetrain parts. Wheel hop from street tires skyrockets the loads on things like axles and ring and pinion. Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.

I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.
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Old 09-27-2010, 12:34 PM   #17
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GM should engineer a solid axle option which would solve this issue completely.

Solid Axle = for those planning to race it.
IRS = for those who just use it to do everything except race it.

Although with that much HP, you likely would break any kind of rear axle or differential eventually.
Yeah never going to happen were talking about money people
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Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.
Wheel hop can kill all kinds of parts. Its just like hitting them with a sledgehammer.

It sucks they broke, but I am sure you know with a 6 second car, if you try hard enough, you can break anything.

Time for some failure analysis.
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Old 09-27-2010, 01:39 PM   #19
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(Street tires) + (700+HP) + (only 1000HP rated axles) = asking for trouble. You fail 2 out of 3.
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LOL.... I laugh at "car guys" who think doing burnouts with IRS is a good thing...... throw more $, forget about sense.......
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Slicks would be easier on the drivetrain parts. Wheel hop from street tires skyrockets the loads on things like axles and ring and pinion. Something rated for 1000 hp, might actually see loads way above that if a car dead hooked and wheel hopped on basketball like street tires.

I've seen cars run huge power through slicks without a problem. Then one bad launch on street tires and parts are flying.
there was no wheel hop or tire shake, so talk of wheel hop is irrelevant in my case.
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Wheel hop can kill all kinds of parts. Its just like hitting them with a sledgehammer.

It sucks they broke, but I am sure you know with a 6 second car, if you try hard enough, you can break anything.

Time for some failure analysis.
there was no wheel hop or tire shake, so talk of wheel hop is irrelevant in my case.
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Old 09-27-2010, 03:44 PM   #23
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Do they offer shaft kits with less (larger) splines?

That seems to be the failure
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732 RWHP, stick shift, IRS, street tires, 4500 rpm launch.... and it has never wheel hopped?

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

I've seen some tracks prepped where they VHT the crap out of it and people are breaking driveshafts and axles left and right. And those can be the best parts on the market. There are so many variables to the actual shock load that hits drivetrain parts, I just don't think it's cut and dry that 1000 hp axles will always handle 1000 hp. I'd bet I could break them with stock hp.
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