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Old 09-28-2010, 04:57 PM   #155
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:58 PM   #156
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Very cool ride, I was hopeing for a new grill. That one really sucks in some bugs. HAHA
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:27 PM   #157
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Won't mean much to me without a motor that can take upgrades to push / hold 700+HP like the LS9. As I previously stated I'd sooner spend the same amount in over all cost on building up a 2010 2SS/RS with superior forged internals for more power and longevity as well as mod my suspension than buy a way marked up Z28 (warranty or not) with a couple cosmetic differences and a weaker engine. If the Z28 comes out with a nonforged bottom end LSA, I will not be interested. At that point, a used 2010 with mods is a viable option imho.

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What makes you think it can't handle 700? Is that number for bragging rights?. Can you handle a car that makes that kind of hp??
Go talk to your local shop and see how much a forged long block with ARP fasterners, etc, with heads/cam, fuel system etc costs plus labor then get back to me. Don't let your jaw hit the ground too hard. You're talking over 20 grand easy.. For just the parts...

The LSA motor is a cam change, upgrade in injector and pulley change away from 700, I'd add a boost a pump and a fuel regulator for insurance on rock steady fuel pressure. That's less than 1500 bucks to make 700 hp.

Most people will not be pushing this motor to its limit to have fully forged internals. There is no way GM would build this with forged internals unless they sold the car at around 55-60 k which would result in no units being sold. Plus now you're in Vette, Porsche, price range.

The motor is detuned conservatively to make 556 hp all the time and will keep the warranty. That's designed for the guy that accidentally puts 87 octane in. And it's more than enough hp for 90% of the knuckleheads out there that think they can handle that much hp LOL. Contrary to what you think most buyers will be happy with the HP numbers and put some basic bolt ons to bump the performance.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:33 PM   #158
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Have you seen some of the lenses that Brenda Priddy and Chris Doane use? They have zoom lenses that make stuff that's a mile away look like you're standing next to it.

There's an article here:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/newes...8353139&page=1

about how Brenda Priddy gets her shots. You can see one of her foot long lenses in the second pic on the story.

Does anyone think they may go back to the red "performance" bowtie for the Z/28? Bumble Bee has one. Unless there is some change to the badging, I don't see the point in covering it up. My 5 year old would know that was a Camaro badging or no.
I watched a show on her opponent. I don't remember the guy's name, but he pretty much makes every car bra and deception skins that the car makers put on their test cars. He would add panels under the bra to change the shape or make the cutouts around the lights different to hide distinguishing features.

The disguise on these Camaros is pretty minimal by comparison. I don't think GM is trying to hide much.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:46 PM   #159
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seriously im just glad that the z is s/c, more RD for us to have.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:52 PM   #160
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I know a lot of people are gonna crucify me for this haha, but i hope the Z finally brings the value of the SS down some, i know a lot of people would hate that but come on! time to share the wealth! haha
Im still eh about the LSA, its awsome having nearly 560hp in a Camaro but still the GT500 does the same trick with an aluminum block, now i know the Z will have more tricks up its sleeve than just the motor but still, i would have preffered either something N/A that makes the same power or something supercharged that just crushes the GT500, id love to see a production version ofthe LSX454 in this thing, or a redesigned LS7
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:05 PM   #161
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I love the horsepower wars. I'm hearing from an inside source at Ford (Flatrock Mich, where they build the Mustang) that the GT500 for 2012 is going to up the HP level as well - it is reportedly going to be nearer 570-ish and a little lighter once again. Should be interesting if true.

Anyone have any weight numbers - real or rumored - for the new Z?
Even if the GT500 gets to 570-ish it still won't be enough, based on what my sources say, is possibly coming for the Z.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:06 PM   #162
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What makes you think it can't handle 700? Is that number for bragging rights?. Can you handle a car that makes that kind of hp??
Go talk to your local shop and see how much a forged long block with ARP fasterners, etc, with heads/cam, fuel system etc costs plus labor then get back to me. Don't let your jaw hit the ground too hard. You're talking over 20 grand easy.. For just the parts...

The LSA motor is a cam change, upgrade in injector and pulley change away from 700, I'd add a boost a pump and a fuel regulator for insurance on rock steady fuel pressure. That's less than 1500 bucks to make 700 hp.

Most people will not be pushing this motor to its limit to have fully forged internals. There is no way GM would build this with forged internals unless they sold the car at around 55-60 k which would result in no units being sold. Plus now you're in Vette, Porsche, price range.

The motor is detuned conservatively to make 556 hp all the time and will keep the warranty. That's designed for the guy that accidentally puts 87 octane in. And it's more than enough hp for 90% of the knuckleheads out there that think they can handle that much hp LOL. Contrary to what you think most buyers will be happy with the HP numbers and put some basic bolt ons to bump the performance.
In all honesty most people would be just as happy with a cammed SS just to get the muscle car feel, most normal consumers wouldnt even have that much stake in what power their car is making other than just to say "yeah, it makes such n such horsepower, thats right, bow to me" haha. It gets pretty unecessary once you already have a lesser unit that can break the law in 4.5 seconds LOL.

Unecessary? Sure. Unwanted? Oh hell no LOL. Really most people want the Z28 just to say their "home-team" car is better then their friend's "away-team" car haha, but the fact that we're producing these machines is amazing, with America trying to get back into the world hunt its good to see we're starting with the things we know we do best haha
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:09 PM   #163
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Even if the GT500 gets to 570-ish it still won't be enough, based on what my sources say, is possibly coming for the Z.

600??? One can dream, lol.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:16 PM   #164
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:31 PM   #165
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600??? One can dream, lol.
Dream big baby!!! 610HP would sound purty gooood!
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:52 PM   #166
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Is it me or is there something blurred out at the bottom of the cowl where the supercharger is?

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Old 09-28-2010, 07:06 PM   #167
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Definately looks like an LS9 intercooler to me...........

Then again, Robin Lawrence from GMPP had the LSA in his camaro, and he was saying it was heat soaking like a bastard, so they probably decided to upgrade.

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Old 09-28-2010, 07:07 PM   #168
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It looks like the car that doesn't exist just may exist. Is it time to put my Camaro up for sale?


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