2011/2012 Camaro Z28 LSA Engine and Hood Design Revealed!

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by BLUESMOKE69

Personally, this HP thing is really getting out of hand!! Folks we're talking super car status for what 50Gs. As some of you mentioned, no Camaro will get more HP than a Corvette.

Well then GM had better ditch the supercharge then. Its gonna be hard to not break 430 hp

Originally Posted by BLUESMOKE69

On one of the test mules, the plate says.......029 m 465 MICHIGAN. This is just a pure out of this world
[guess..."code Z/29 with 465hp". PURE 100% SPECULATION!!!!

If they're only getting 465 hp out of a 6.2L supercharged engine, they're doing something wrong.

Its likely just a coincidence. I bet that plate has been used on other test cars (Buicks, Caddies, Pontiacs, etc) before it was affixed to that particular Camaro.

[Wvallediego]

I don't think I can afford this one........damn!

[JohnnyrSS]

I have had my 2011 for a month and a half and I am dying to mod it but I don't see a point if I will be able to put a deposit on a Z28 in 6 months. When they release the specs on the car how do you find out what date dealers will be able to take an order for build? I want to order on day 1 and then sit in agony waiting for the car to arrive

[OldJedi]

Originally Posted by JohnnyrSS

I have had my 2011 for a month and a half and I am dying to mod it but I don't see a point if I will be able to put a deposit on a Z28 in 6 months. When they release the specs on the car how do you find out what date dealers will be able to take an order for build? I want to order on day 1 and then sit in agony waiting for the car to arrive

Try to find the dealer in your area that sells the most Camaros, they should have the best chance of an allocation of a Z28. Also check with Camaro Scotty and Becky D on this site, I believe they have already started taking deposits for the Z28. Good Luck.

[FxsX24]

Originally Posted by OldJedi

Try to find the dealer in your area that sells the most Camaros, they should have the best chance of an allocation of a Z28. Also check with Camaro Scotty and Becky D on this site, I believe they have already started taking deposits for the Z28. Good Luck.

can they legally take a deposit on a non existent, non officially announced car?

[fastkevman]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I have no idea what GM will do, but my GUESS is we are looking at a Z28 that will sticker about 50K and be close in weight to the current car. The performance will be on par with anything Ford has to offer -- until Ford responds to the new Camaro...

Chevy hasn't shown that they can play Ford's game yet.
Let's not forget Ford has never left the game and continues to lead it, they are not reactive, they are proactive.
On par doesn't cut it anymore, you either kill the GT500 or it's just a ho-hum grab at some customers $$$.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by fastkevman

Chevy hasn't shown that they can play Ford's game yet.
Let's not forget Ford has never left the game and continues to lead it, they are not reactive, they are proactive.
On par doesn't cut it anymore, you either kill the GT500 or it's just a ho-hum grab at some customers $$$.

please explain how they continue to lead? seeing how the sales are below the camaros. . .granted not by much but still below the camaro. . .also explain how they aren't reactive. seeing how the 2010 gt and is a shame and came out after the 2010 camaro. but the 2011 gt is a clear reaction to the camaro.

camaro fanatics know that performance doesn't mean the car is leading the way. look at the 4th gens. whooped the mustang gt's rearend all the way up until recently. . .it took ford going to the 03-04 cobras (forced induction) to beat the 4th gens. and even then the regular GT was a shame. but sales showed people loved the GT more.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Z28 still looks exactly like any other camaros...

I never knew that all other Camaros had 4 exhaust tips and holes in the hood

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Z28 still looks exactly like any other camaros...

Great, another Mustang troll.

[boxmonkeyracing]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Z28 still looks exactly like any other camaros...

so is that a v-6 or a I4 in your sig? glad you can see under all the camo. . .

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Are you still mad at me for the other thread?
Plus, I'm just stating the facts...
What I'm saying is that I want the z28 to look a little bit more special and unique than others.

You're basing your assumption that the Z28 won't look "more special and unique" off of an IVER that has camo all over it.

[Mankind]

You can't tell exactly how it looks under the camo but you can see some obvious upgrades in appearance. From what im looking at it has about as much a face lift, if not more, than the GT500 has from the other stangs. Why knock it before you see it, other than to just be a thread troll?

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Deep10

Well I'm hoping it will be different

So far it looks like we can at least expect different exhaust, hood, and fascia and presumably rocker panels, wheels, and spoiler as well. How much else do you think they could change on the exterior? Did you think GM would be stamping out different sheet metal for it?

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Great, another Mustang troll.

Not anymore.

For everyone...

Keep reporting the Trolls who come here for the main purpose of stirring fights and derailing our threads. We'll be glad to review their post history, give infractions where necessary, and ban them as needed.

[Z28RockStar]

I want to buy a 2SS/RS with no motor, cheap! Trying to save money for my LS9 crate motor!
=)

[Tran]

UPDATED with photos from Midlife Motors (cars spotted in Colorado):

[bobmac427]

Ya know, that blue sure looks like the Corvette Jetstream Blue.

[nick at night]

Originally Posted by bobmac427

Ya know, that blue sure looks like the Corvette Jetstream Blue.

Or ABM

[2010victoryredss_ron]

and the hood has hood pins....very cool!!!

[fastkevman]

Originally Posted by boxmonkeyracing

please explain how they continue to lead? seeing how the sales are below the camaros. . .granted not by much but still below the camaro. . .also explain how they aren't reactive. seeing how the 2010 gt and is a shame and came out after the 2010 camaro. but the 2011 gt is a clear reaction to the camaro.

camaro fanatics know that performance doesn't mean the car is leading the way. look at the 4th gens. whooped the mustang gt's rearend all the way up until recently. . .it took ford going to the 03-04 cobras (forced induction) to beat the 4th gens. and even then the regular GT was a shame. but sales showed people loved the GT more.

The Coyote 5.0 was in development long before the Camaro was on dealers lots.
Personally, I think they underestimated how well the Camaro would sell and waited a year to release it when they shouldn't have.

Ford is much more performance driven with the Mustang than GM is with the Camaro, not the Corvette but, we aren't talking about the Vette.
They have factory installed gear options, dealer installed superchargers that don't kill your warranty, performance parts that actually add hp, and they don't take over a year to figure out a simple short-shifter.

The GT500 is a monster and the Boss 302 looks to be a road course beast.

Like I said, if the Z28 doesn't decimate the GT500 then GM is still #2 in the ponycar wars.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by fastkevman

The Coyote 5.0 was in development long before the Camaro was on dealers lots.

Before it was on lots? Sure. Before it was announced for production? I doubt it. Before it was suspected for production? No chance.

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by Tran

UPDATED with photos from Midlife Motors (cars spotted in Colorado):

I woulda yelled, "Look over there!" and ripped off the camouflage and took a picture.

[BLUESMOKE69]

Curious to see what's under the hood of the blue test mule. Does GM have the right to use the IROC-Z name?

[fastkevman]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

Before it was on lots? Sure. Before it was announced for production? I doubt it. Before it was suspected for production? No chance.

The 4.6L that was in the Mustang has been around since the early '90's and was in a bunch of different cars and trucks, they needed an updated version for the Mustang and other platforms.........so yes they have been working on a 4.6 replacement since well before the Camaro.

Besides the ponycars there is the US truck/suv segment and Australian performance market to worry about, plus the Vettes.
If the Mustang/Camaro weren't around these engines still would be.

[fastkevman]

Originally Posted by BLUESMOKE69

Curious to see what's under the hood of the blue test mule. Does GM have the right to use the IROC-Z name?

No they can't use the IROC name nor should they, that is a dead racing series plus Dodge used the name on Daytonas after Chevy.
The series ended with Firebirds but, Pontiac never used the name.