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Old 03-07-2011, 08:20 PM   #301
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Looks like i may be able to get the upgrade now. My usb connection indexes all my music but when i go to by artist or by album it just list every single song. Also on the radio screen it only lists the song and not artist/ album.
:( The problem is you're driving a 2010 year model. GM still won't let you upgrade to PN 20985421 under warranty because it's a 2011 part. You can buy the part and install it yourself (that's what I did), but they won't cover it under your warranty. How do you like that B.S.?

By the way. Still no TSB?
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:12 AM   #302
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Ok so like many of you i'm having the same problem with (HW:CC SW:CE).... Been to the dealer like 7 times (not a joke) and they keep telling me that they have installed the latest module and software..... My question is that they claim to say that when they get the module and install it they have to program it with the latest software from GM... So, is this true? I have heard many members saying that they have just installed the module themselves and it works (almost like plug-n-play).... I'm thinking this is a lie.... Also to note they have installed module 20893388 whatever the hell that is... Although I have instructed and given them part number 20927509 to fix my problem. So frustrating when I have so much info to help them help me!!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:19 AM   #303
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Ok so like many of you i'm having the same problem with (HW:CC SW:CE).... Been to the dealer like 7 times (not a joke) and they keep telling me that they have installed the latest module and software..... My question is that they claim to say that when they get the module and install it they have to program it with the latest software from GM... So, is this true? I have heard many members saying that they have just installed the module themselves and it works (almost like plug-n-play).... I'm thinking this is a lie.... Also to note they have installed module 20893388 whatever the hell that is... Although I have instructed and given them part number 20927509 to fix my problem. So frustrating when I have so much info to help them help me!!!
Here's the problem: They're giving you the latest 2010 PDIM. Unfortunately, that doesn't fix the problem because they're just replacing one bogus part with another bogus part. All the 2010 PDIMs are bogus! The suits at GM need to get off their @#$%^! asses and publish a TSB that allows the 2010 owners to get their PDIMs replaced with the 2011 PDIM under warranty. That's the only thing that fixes the problem! Man, this is frustrating!!

By the way. the software comes in the PDIM. They don't have to flash it, so if that's what they're telling you, your dealer is either lying or incompetent. Actually, that may be a bit harsh. They probably just don't realize that the PDIM is plug and play. If you get the latest PDIM (PN 20985421), it will have the latest software. Your goal is to see a HW/SW code of DB/DB, but you can't get there with a 2010 PDIM. They can replace it a hundred times, and it still won't work as advertised.

I feel your pain, man. That's why I finally gave up and replaced the part myself.

Oh yeah...still no TSB?
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:55 PM   #304
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My 2011 with DA/DX worked great since Sept. when i bought the car... so i have been following this thread. well two days ago, she finally ceased to work. looks like a trip to the dealer next week.
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:17 PM   #305
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This is pretty irritating when there are plenty of other cars on the road that can integrate this just fine without issues... why is GM having such a tough time with this? Are their PDIM engineers incompetent? But the technology if they have to, crap...
I have an old Pioneer deck I installed myself on my FJ that works better than the one in my Camaro and the deck is three years older...
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:39 AM   #306
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I am sorry but I am confused on a few things… to much information going on in this thread.
Someone please correct me.

If I am correct I want part number 20985421 and it be DB DB.?

If I buy the kit will I get that module? Or do I need to buy the kit and then buy another new module? ( I am upgrading from 2011 LS)

Where is the best place to buy the kit?

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Old 03-12-2011, 09:27 AM   #307
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I am sorry but I am confused on a few things… to much information going on in this thread.
Someone please correct me.

If I am correct I want part number 20985421 and it be DB DB.?

If I buy the kit will I get that module? Or do I need to buy the kit and then buy another new module? ( I am upgrading from 2011 LS)

Where is the best place to buy the kit?

Thank you
I explained all of this in my post, thoroughly, but currently the kit does not come with DB/DB. It will in the future, when, I don't know, but it will. Right now if you want to be totally upgraded it is the kit plus the new module. We sell them here on the forum.
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Old 03-14-2011, 10:15 AM   #308
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I explained all of this in my post, thoroughly, but currently the kit does not come with DB/DB. It will in the future, when, I don't know, but it will. Right now if you want to be totally upgraded it is the kit plus the new module. We sell them here on the forum.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:56 PM   #309
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:22 AM   #311
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Thanks could not find it.

No problem. I had to look under Patrickt's post's to find it.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:43 AM   #312
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So, what's the final word on this. I havnt been following the thread for a while, figured id give it some time. Is there a TSB for this yet?
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:53 PM   #313
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Ok, here is what you've been wanting to know and it sorts everything out. I apologize that it has taken me a few days, but have been dealing with kidney stone issues, lol.

Ok to the good stuff.

My build date was 5/29/2009 so I had part number 20840958 installed. The hardware version is CB/CC.







I have seen references to part number 20927509. This hardware version is DA/DX









I have also seen a new part number 20985421 in the catalog. This is version DB/DB.









This is not anything I've picked up off the internet. All 3 modules, versions and pictures were done by me today with my own personal vehicle.

If you don't have the PDIM and you buy the latest PDIM kit, 20940641, it will come with part number 20927509 (DA/DX). I know this because I just got a 20940641 kit on Friday and opened it and the part number on the module is 20940641.

It does appear to me that GM will be adding the new number, 20985421 to that kit, but it has not been done yet.

There is all of the good news.

The bad news is, if you have a 2010, the latest part number in any catalogs, with GM or reference material is 20927509 (DA/DX). If you get it done under warranty for a 2010 you will only be allowed to get 20927509 or the claim will bounce.

If you have a 2011 and you don't have part number 20985421, then you can get it and warranty will pay for it.

So the current PDIM add-on kit does not have the new part number in it as of this moment. I do believe, however, that it will shortly.

Personally, with the 2010's, I don't know why GM just doesn't change all of the part numbers over to the latest one, 20985421. The 2011 module works in the 2010 as that is what I did today. Any other questions, just ask. I'll answer if I know the answer!
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:26 AM   #314
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So, what's the final word on this. I havnt been following the thread for a while, figured id give it some time. Is there a TSB for this yet?

When I reached out to a GM Employee, I was told their probably wouldn't be a TSB because the reports of issues are sporadic and not all owners are reporting an issue.

Your best bet is to continue pushing with your dealership until they agree to replace the module.

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Old 03-16-2011, 03:37 PM   #315
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When I reached out to a GM Employee, I was told their probably wouldn't be a TSB because the reports of issues are sporadic and not all owners are reporting an issue.

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That's probably because not all owners are using their USB ports.
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Well, they won't even replace my hardware (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...19#post2970119), they are doing a software update. I am at CC/CE. Was there an SW update after CE?

If they won't replace it, then I will buy the unit myself and put it in.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:54 PM   #317
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Well, they won't even replace my hardware (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...19#post2970119), they are doing a software update. I am at CC/CE. Was there an SW update after CE?

If they won't replace it, then I will buy the unit myself and put it in.
I don't think that there ever was a software update after CE...I could be wrong though.
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i got this pdim (HW ID:CC/SWID:CE THIS OLD ????
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Well, they won't even replace my hardware (http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...19#post2970119), they are doing a software update. I am at CC/CE. Was there an SW update after CE?

If they won't replace it, then I will buy the unit myself and put it in.
Thats how they win.


Yeah it's stupid we should have to do this... I agree with what was said earlier, most people probable don't use it but there certainly is a lot in the forums who do and that are pissed it's not working...
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When I reached out to a GM Employee, I was told their probably wouldn't be a TSB because the reports of issues are sporadic and not all owners are reporting an issue.

Your best bet is to continue pushing with your dealership until they agree to replace the module.

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yeah, complete bullshit if you ask me. Its shit like this that makes me hate companies.
They know its broken, fix it. Shouldnt take 10 thousand people to all say, hey this is broken before you own up to it.
i knew ultimately this would happen, check my previous posts.
I was trying to give chevy the benefit of the doubt and hope they would fix it.
Without a TSB when i go to my dealer, its like talking to a brick wall. They dont know what im talking about. Nice guys, but completely clueless.

thanks anyway chevy
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Yeah it's stupid we should have to do this... I agree with what was said earlier, most people probable don't use it but there certainly is a lot in the forums who do and that are pissed it's not working...
I just want to be able to have my entire music collection on a single USB flash drive (and I refuse to buy an iPod). I may just pay for the part myself and install the newest one so I can have more than 2500 songs per drive. It took 4 trips to various dealerships just to get my PDIM software updated the first time and it's not worth it to me to go through that again trying to find one that will replace the module under warranty.
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If I buy the PDIM myself and install it, will the dealer do the SW updates under warranty or will I have to pay.
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If i buy the 2011 PDIM, to replace my screwed up one, will it even need the update?
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I just want to be able to have my entire music collection on a single USB flash drive (and I refuse to buy an iPod). I may just pay for the part myself and install the newest one so I can have more than 2500 songs per drive. It took 4 trips to various dealerships just to get my PDIM software updated the first time and it's not worth it to me to go through that again trying to find one that will replace the module under warranty.
I hear that, the local Chevy just closed down, the closest one to me is 25+ miles away, then there are tons 50 miles out. THe one in Folsom had no clue what I was talking about, he even asked "What is a PDIM?" I just said "Oh never mind if you don't know what it is I'd rather you not do the work." He said all upset "Well the Camaro is new we have not worked on one yet." To which I said "PDIM's are in a lot of GM vehicles for several years now, you should know what it is. Have a nice day."

I may end up going this route as well, but not for a while, I am content with using my iPhone via bluetooth, my iPod works fine through the USB so it works out, it's just when others come to plug their devices in that it does not work for crap...
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If i buy the 2011 PDIM, to replace my screwed up one, will it even need the update?
No, you'll have the latest version DB/DB.
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