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Old 01-06-2009, 11:43 AM   #726
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How close is the SS to hitting the gas guzzler tax? Will 3.73 be enough to push it over? Just something to think about. You can do a lot of gear changing for $1000. Me, I could care less about HUD- I do want the ambient lighting though...
Good question, but I doubt 3.73s from 3.42s would push it over if it's getting 23mpg already. Anyone good with math hahaha.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:48 AM   #727
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Once you buy the car you can do what ever you want. They can't hit you with the Gas guzzler after the fact.
Of course not. My question was a why wait for 3.73 gears (if they indeed push you into gas guzzler range) when you can do them yourself a lot cheaper? Or why wait at all, either way, for a few hundred bucks to change them out yourself?
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:54 AM   #728
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Of course not. My question was a why wait for 3.73 gears (if they indeed push you into gas guzzler range) when you can do them yourself a lot cheaper? Or why wait at all, either way, for a few hundred bucks to change them out yourself?
Oh, I see....your trying to figure out GM's reasoning for the gears they pick.

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:12 PM   #729
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Of course not. My question was a why wait for 3.73 gears (if they indeed push you into gas guzzler range) when you can do them yourself a lot cheaper? Or why wait at all, either way, for a few hundred bucks to change them out yourself?
I see your point, but a lot of people on this site are saying "why not just fix _____ yourself". Well shoot, I don't wanna buy a brand new car and spend $2000 fixing stuff that'll be out the next model year. I'd rather buy it with the base stuff I want (HUD, 3.73s, etc) and use my extra cash for performance mods.

That's just me.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:27 PM   #730
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Different gauges?

From a post a while back and these look pretty good to me. Maybe US vs. Canada? I hope!



From this thread which look not as good:

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:33 PM   #731
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Maybe they look different when it's on or something?

Sadly, I think they may have crappified the gauges a bit :( (nevermind, see below)


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Old 01-06-2009, 02:35 PM   #732
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Isn't one the V6 and the other the V8?
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:36 PM   #733
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Isn't one the V6 and the other the V8?
Yes but I think the gauges are largely the same.

But actually I think the gauges are the same. The cooler one is just when they're all lit up. From earlier this thread by HeatherR...

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:41 PM   #734
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Heather's car is Canadian. So it's Speedo is in Kilometers per hour (SS). The other photo was of a US-spec 2LT car. That's the only real difference besides being lit up.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:47 PM   #735
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Here's a non-lit SS (SS speedo goes to 180 but LT 'only' goes to 160)
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:53 PM   #736
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Is there some point to having extra numbers in red color beyond 125MPH? Why does the speedo have a delineation line at that speed and then some numerals in red?

Looks like they cheaped out and reused some kind of color lens from the tach over again on the speedo. I know it's not what they did, but it gives the impression of it.
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:04 PM   #737
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To emphasise how f'n fast you're going?
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:52 PM   #738
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from what i understand:

-the US models are written to 160/180mph for the v6/v8
-the canadian models are written to ?/300kmh for the v6/v8

the difference between the v6 and the v8 in both the us and canadian model is the v6 lettering is a bit taller and farther spaced apart (due to the lack of the additional speed mark).

someone please correct me if i'm wrong.


p.s. bonus points for whoever knows what the canadian v6 goes to, speed wise...
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:54 PM   #739
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To emphasise how f'n fast you're going?
So what's so special about 125 that it gets a special large "tick" mark?
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:04 PM   #740
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The numbers on the US speedo look better to me. Longer and more stretched thin (read retro) than the metric.

Maybe I'm seeing things.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:07 PM   #741
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So what's so special about 125 that it gets a special large "tick" mark?
It's the GM version of ludicrous speed.

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The numbers on the US speedo look better to me. Longer and more stretched thin (read retro) than the metric.

Maybe I'm seeing things.
No, they are. I think they had to do that because of spacing/size.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:59 PM   #742
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Miss Heather and Hubby -

Thanks a million times over for the photos and info. You guys are the reason that all of us hold out hope for quality customer service in everything we encounter.

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Old 01-06-2009, 05:24 PM   #743
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I say +1 to V6 gauges, +0.5 to V8 gauges, and 0 for metric V8 gauge. The numbers are too big and cluttered IMO.

What I like are the Dale Jr. gauges! It has big numbers like the regular V8 but are a bit thinner i think.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:27 PM   #744
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The gages from "Black" are awsome... The JR ones are cool too, hopefully GM will come to their senses, and offer one of these instead !? If not, I guess this will be one of my first mods.

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Old 01-06-2009, 06:33 PM   #745
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I'll be keeping as much of the interior/exterior of the car stock as possible. The engine will get a full intake and exhaust treatment, and possibly cams depending on where the intake and exhaust get me...

The point is the gauges will stay OEM, etc.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:50 PM   #746
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I say this huge gauge cluster conversation needs to be removed and given its own thread. A lot of good information here and good focus.
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Old 01-06-2009, 10:16 PM   #747
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I think they should have used BLACK's gauges, too. Those are Amazing!!!

...and BLACK's bezels for that matter. They don't have to be black though...just shiny. The ones in there now are nice, but seem...unfinished.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:05 PM   #748
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The US guages are by far the better looking. The Canadian one just looks too cluttered.

I don't like the ones in the Dale Jr. or Black at all though. I absolutely can't stand white face (or anything similar) guages.
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Old 01-07-2009, 05:57 AM   #749
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This is my first post. yay lol. before i registered though, i read every single post in this thread from beginning to end and was completely mezmerized by all of it lol. HeatherR provided the best pictures of the Camaro I have seen thus far. i was hyped up before about getting my but after all i've seen and read on this thread, i'm hanging by the seat of my pants. thanks for sharing your trip Heather and i only wish i were so lucky to be able to experience it first hand
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I think they should have used BLACK's gauges, too. Those are Amazing!!!

...and BLACK's bezels for that matter. They don't have to be black though...just shiny. The ones in there now are nice, but seem...unfinished.
You're absolutely right, I agree with you completely!!!
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