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Old 12-22-2008, 04:52 AM   #1
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Thinking of Painting my Camaro.

Thoughts on painting my Camaro.

Ok I am getting a Rally Yellow 2SS. I do not want the stick on strips at all, friend of mine had them on his IROC and the started coming off after a couple of years. So we have a really good body shop in town that does alot of great paint jobs. So I am thinking of letting paint on the black rally stripes.

Now here is where I want you thoughts. I was thinking of maybe doing these two other things.

1. Remember how the 1st Gen had a black stripe going around the nose. Thinking of doing that.

2. Where the fake slits are in front of the rear wheels actually having them painted in black to make them look real.

Tell me what you guys think of my ideas.

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Old 12-22-2008, 08:09 AM   #2
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The nose stripe could be done, but the nose of the 5th is more pointed in the center compared to the 1st gen. Not sure how it would look.

Personally I would not paint the slits.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:45 AM   #3
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I thought of painting my own stripes. I got the white rally stripes. It would be easy to paint and cheaper than vinyl if you do it yourself. I think a little pearl in the white would look much better too.
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Old 12-22-2008, 08:58 AM   #4
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Thoughts on painting my Camaro.

Ok I am getting a Rally Yellow 2SS. I do not want the stick on strips at all, friend of mine had them on his IROC and the started coming off after a couple of years. So we have a really good body shop in town that does alot of great paint jobs. So I am thinking of letting paint on the black rally stripes.

Now here is where I want you thoughts. I was thinking of maybe doing these two other things.

1. Remember how the 1st Gen had a black stripe going around the nose. Thinking of doing that.

2. Where the fake slits are in front of the rear wheels actually having them painted in black to make them look real.

Tell me what you guys think of my ideas.

Thanks

Scott
1) I don't think this would look good considering how pointed the nose is. We'll have to wait till someone posts a Photo shop to decided.

2) I wouldn't paint the mail slot unless it's needed for the rally stripes or the stripe wrapping the nose.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:02 AM   #5
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I would have to agree with draco on the nose stripe. Lets wait for someone to do a photo shop of this first.

The gills won't look good painted I don't think.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:39 AM   #6
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There's already a photoshopped picture of the bumblebee stripe. Makes it look like a weird mustache, in my opinion.


Might be able to get away with the '69 bumblebee stripe, though. All in all, I think the nose of the 5th gen is too tall for a stripe to wrap around the whole thing.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:41 AM   #7
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There's already a photoshopped picture of the bumblebee stripe. Makes it look like a weird mustache, in my opinion.
Personally I would like an above view of the stripe on the '10. It's too hard to tell from the front. And for it to look decent on the side it would have to come all the way down imo.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:33 AM   #8
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I think the nose stripe wouldn't look right because of the more pointed nose of the 5th gen.

I also don't think painting the gills would give you the effect you want. I think it will draw more attention to them without making them look any more realistic.
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Old 12-22-2008, 10:41 AM   #9
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Personally I would like an above view of the stripe on the '10. It's too hard to tell from the front. And for it to look decent on the side it would have to come all the way down imo.
Ask and you shall receive. Yes, I know these aren't well done, but they're quick jobs, I'm sick, and don't have much time to work on this. Maybe I'll update them later, but I doubt it because I really don't think the bumblebee stripe works with the '10 model. I will say, though, that the '69 bumblebee stripe seems to work much better, in my opinion.

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Old 12-22-2008, 03:10 PM   #10
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I'd like to offer some thoughts for you to consider. Having worked in a bodyshop for a number of years, I have as much insight as a person could have who doesn't actually paint cars professionally.

Be careful whom you choose for your work. Know that the more paint you build on top of existing paint will result in the paint chipping easier and the chips will be larger. Until I left that industry a couple years ago, there were no paints that quite matched the hardness and durability of OEM paint (unless that's changed since). I could never get quite a clear answer from my management or from our PPG supplier, but it's thought it could be because they are using paints that don't have to abide by the same VOC laws that aftermarket paint companies have to (like PPG, Dupont, etc.). Also, depending on the thickness of the stripe, you could end up with build-up and a pretty noticable line in the clearcoat from it. In addition, clearcoat (well, assuming you're going to apply clearcoat over them) is not entirely clear - it has a little amber tint to it, and I've seen the addition of clearcoat alone change the color of the panel that was cleared compared to the original panels adjacent to it.

I honestly hope you find what you want and that it works to your liking. I only wanted to offer you things to consider and perhaps bring up with your shop before getting too far into this. Good luck and take some pics' and post up when you're all done
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:20 PM   #11
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^Excellent and wise information. One of my friends had center stripes painted down his white '98 Camaro and you could definitely see a bump in the paint on the edges of the stripes. Not sure how he had it painted, but personally, I would've just done vinyl.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:45 PM   #12
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this is just my .02

I like vinyl stripes for one reason. . . they can be removed and you can put new DIFFERENT stripes on the car when 1. They Chip 2. You want new ones.

Granted the painted stripes look better, but I rather have the option of changing my mind years down the road with out painting the whole car.
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Old 12-22-2008, 04:46 PM   #13
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Man, I really wanted red stripes. So, it's wiser to go with the stickers than paint?
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:27 PM   #14
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Venom, could you Please do that bottom camro in inferno orange? Thats' the stripe I want! Thanks, Walt
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Old 12-22-2008, 05:35 PM   #15
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I believe TAG is also getting painted stripes. Ask him his thgoughts.
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:44 AM   #16
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Seriously. If you want stripes you should have them painted.
1. Itll last longers, wont end up bubbling and peeling off.
2. Its more flush
& 3. It looks better.

Hell im painting my GOOOOOOLD one on. Well not me but they'll be painted.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:31 AM   #17
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I'd like to offer some thoughts for you to consider. Having worked in a bodyshop for a number of years, I have as much insight as a person could have who doesn't actually paint cars professionally.

Be careful whom you choose for your work. Know that the more paint you build on top of existing paint will result in the paint chipping easier and the chips will be larger. Until I left that industry a couple years ago, there were no paints that quite matched the hardness and durability of OEM paint (unless that's changed since). I could never get quite a clear answer from my management or from our PPG supplier, but it's thought it could be because they are using paints that don't have to abide by the same VOC laws that aftermarket paint companies have to (like PPG, Dupont, etc.). Also, depending on the thickness of the stripe, you could end up with build-up and a pretty noticable line in the clearcoat from it. In addition, clearcoat (well, assuming you're going to apply clearcoat over them) is not entirely clear - it has a little amber tint to it, and I've seen the addition of clearcoat alone change the color of the panel that was cleared compared to the original panels adjacent to it.

I honestly hope you find what you want and that it works to your liking. I only wanted to offer you things to consider and perhaps bring up with your shop before getting too far into this. Good luck and take some pics' and post up when you're all done
Dude,

Not to contradict you here but alot of that is not true. Cheap clears are hard. Expensive clears are soft. They are not tinted either. They are clear. A properly prepared surface will take new paint just fine.

OEM paint is as thin as it can be with an acceptable amout of orange peel. A custom paint job with have more clear applied and will also be wet sanded and buffed to remove the peel. Dealerships for the most part do not do this step either. That is why you will also get an edge. Almost any edge can be sanded and smoothed out provided enough clear was applied.

It is very possible to get stripes painted on your new camaro with professional results. Those areas, if done right, will have a better paint job on them than the factory.

Hope this clears things up (no pun intended).
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Old 12-23-2008, 02:43 PM   #18
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Venom, could you Please do that bottom camro in inferno orange? Thats' the stripe I want! Thanks, Walt
Sorry. Still sick and still have a lack of free time. Here's what I came up with quickly:
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Well, the clears I've seen are/were not clear, so we're just going to have to agree to disagree. I've seen blend panels change/flop colors with only application of clear. I haven't seen all the clears out there, only PPG and Dupont. I didn't suggest that it wouldn't work, or can't be a good job, only that he consider what can happen if he's not careful with whom does the work. This isn't going to be a cheap mod' and I'm sure there's value in having a general idea (which I was trying to convey) on what to think about when getting into something like this.
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Old 12-23-2008, 10:38 PM   #21
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Radz,

Clear IS clear. Maybe your stuff was dirty or contaminated. I have never sprayed clear (PPG, DuPont, House of Color, Alsa) that wasn't. Even the cheaper sub brands like Omni are clear. No agreeing or diagreeing about it. Even if there is clear left to harden in a mixing cup, if its not garbage (and PPG is not) it will harden into a clear block.

It is also not that big a deal, expensive or hard to do if you are clearing the whole part (hood, trunk lid). You can run into problems trying to blend new clear into old clear.

Sorry if it feels as though I'm rippin on ya but I hate to see people scared away from something that is not hard or expensive. I'm all about people doing their own thing and having a ride that is totally unique.

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Old 12-23-2008, 10:56 PM   #22
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Thoughts on painting my Camaro.

Ok I am getting a Rally Yellow 2SS. I do not want the stick on strips at all, friend of mine had them on his IROC and the started coming off after a couple of years. So we have a really good body shop in town that does alot of great paint jobs. So I am thinking of letting paint on the black rally stripes.

Now here is where I want you thoughts. I was thinking of maybe doing these two other things.

1. Remember how the 1st Gen had a black stripe going around the nose. Thinking of doing that.

2. Where the fake slits are in front of the rear wheels actually having them painted in black to make them look real.

Tell me what you guys think of my ideas.

Thanks

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I'm getting the same color combo and want the Transformers bumblebee stripes which are much longer and wider.

My dealer is sending to the paint shop for me. This guy is awesome; he painted wood grain on the owner's SSR.

All panels are to be removed: hood, front fascia, rear deck lid and spoiler.
All taped painted and then cleared as a whole unit.

Stay away from the gills. It will not be easy to clear this properly as tha panel will not be removed which means the entire car would ned to be taped and cleared to blend properly.

I'm number one at mydealer and should have it in my garage sometime in March. I'll post photos when I get it done; please do the same.
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1) I don't think this would look good considering how pointed the nose is. We'll have to wait till someone posts a Photo shop to decided.

2) I wouldn't paint the mail slot unless it's needed for the rally stripes or the stripe wrapping the nose.
hes talking about the fake brake vents behind the doors. not the one on the front bumper.
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Im gonna have to agree 100% with King Mouse. Clear is Clear. I understand where your coming from about being carefull who you chose to do it cause obviously some paint shops arent carefull and use dirty equipment. An aftermarket paint job is the way to go no doubt about it. Ive paint stripes on a factory base coat, pinstriped, and cleared over them, then wetsand and buff and there is NO edge at all. And the stickers WILL mess up the factory paint if left on for a long time. The UV rays cant get to the paint under them and when you take them off the paint under them isnt faded like the rest of the car. It isnt as bad on newer cars because alot of the newer clears have UV blockers but its still pretty noticable. I say look at the photoshops and if you see somthin you like then do it. Dont worry about what others think cause most of the time they just hate cause 1) they dont know how to get it, 2) they cant afford it get it, or 3) the wife sais they cant get it.
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