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Old 10-03-2010, 12:55 PM   #1
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Hurst Shifter From GM Parts Department

I am trying to keep my 2010 Camaro all GM for several reasons including warranty. On numerous occasions I have tried to order the short throw shifter from my Chevrolet dealer, but to date they have not been able to do it. I would really appricate answers to the following questions:
When can I order the shifter from GM?
Is the part number going to be 92214388?
Estimated cost?
Thanks very much!
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:01 PM   #2
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IMO the after market Hurst will be more worth for your money.

the Factory Hurst is 20 - 25% shorter than stock, I bet you can even hardly tell you have a short throw shifter on.

I've seen the aftermarket Hurts in person. and you can really tell the difference and feel that its really shorter. I would say the aftermarket Hurst is 35 - 40% shorter than stock.

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Old 10-03-2010, 03:34 PM   #3
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IMO the after market Hurst will be more worth for your money.

the Factory Hurst is 20 - 25% shorter than stock, I bet you can even hardly tell you have a short throw shifter on.

I've seen the aftermarket Hurts in person. and you can really tell the difference and feel that its really shorter. I would say the aftermarket Hurst is 35 - 40% shorter than stock.

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The Billet/Plus 2 reduces shift throw a little over 40%, I want to say 42 or 44%.
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:08 PM   #4
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44% for the aftermarket and 22% for the OEM.
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:19 PM   #5
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But the KAE shifter is a complete replacement where as after market hurst is just the rod.
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Old 10-03-2010, 11:11 PM   #6
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the prob with aftermarket shifter is more tranny noise.....i wonder if the gm hurst will have that solved
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:18 PM   #7
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It's funny how people get hung-up on replacing the whole shifter as opposed to the main functioning parts (bearing, lever, bushings, etc.). What are the benefits of replacing the whole shifter, as opposed to just the moving parts? All I see are dis-advantages: heavier & harder to install... it just doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:49 PM   #8
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It's funny how people get hung-up on replacing the whole shifter as opposed to the main functioning parts (bearing, lever, bushings, etc.). What are the benefits of replacing the whole shifter, as opposed to just the moving parts? All I see are dis-advantages: heavier & harder to install... it just doesn't make sense.
Replacing the whole shifter with the MGW will give you an additional gate centering spring that you will not get with just a stick replacement. The spring is used to reduce missed shifts. The feel is also different and many drivers have said they like the feel better.

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Old 10-04-2010, 01:31 PM   #9
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Replacing the whole shifter with the MGW will give you an additional gate centering spring that you will not get with just a stick replacement. The spring is used to reduce missed shifts. The feel is also different and many drivers have said they like the feel better.

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Yes- but this a function of the springs and not just for the sake of replacing the entire shifter. The V6 has centering spring on the OEM shifter. They can be easily added to the OEM V8 shifter if so desired (all the provisions are there- I've seen it myself). This is a subjective quality and yes it will help with a 2-3 shift, it may hinder a 1-2 shift as well as increase the amount of force required to do so - especially on a short throw shifter. I suspect this is why the MGW shifter only has about a 30% throw reduction as apposed to Hurst's 44%.

The GM engineers must of had a reason for not adding these springs to the V8 Camaros.
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Old 10-04-2010, 05:43 PM   #10
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Probably the same reason a forty thousand SS Camaro doesn't have foot well lighting or an up or down powered right front bucket seat. And paint that all you have to do is practically look at it and it chips. Not bashing here. Love the new Camaro but geesh! couldn't they have listened to people with 2010's and made improvements more than just the heads up display? And what about that messed up clutch?
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:44 PM   #11
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I noticed that nobody has actually answered this guys question about when he can order the shifter. Does anyone know?
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:48 PM   #12
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Last word I had was about a week ago that the accessory hurst shifter should be available in Jan. That's the 3rd, 4th or 5th revision to their time table. I've lost track. But, it's what I want for my car, so I'm watching and asking periodically. I'll post an update if I see or hear of one.
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One month Bumpidigity for info~
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:48 PM   #14
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wow..it's hard to see something so simple take so long.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:55 PM   #15
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wow..it's hard to see something so simple take so long.
It's GM. Why they move at a snails pace is beyond me at getting their performance parts out. It's very frustrating. I've tried to keep my GM car all GM, but they have not allowed me to do so. So somebody else got my money instead of them. They are losing a lot of money/sales over this.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:00 PM   #16
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the prob with aftermarket shifter is more tranny noise.....i wonder if the gm hurst will have that solved
The kit I installed today had something in it that is supposed to reduce the noise, I didn't install it since they didn't recommend it if you race your car which I do often.
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Old 01-25-2011, 03:31 AM   #17
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GM part #'s that were given to me by an engineer at GM: Shifter #24257312, Knob #24257863. Limited quantitly available so go to your Chevy dealer and have them look it up. Be ready to pay over $800 total! Let us know if these numbers work and what they quote you!
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:03 AM   #19
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I believe the GM/HUrst shifter option is about a $380 option avail as the addition on the build sheet. 800 seems wayyyyy high unless the DEALERS are going to be marking all that stuff up, which is common!
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$380 as an option when you order the car but $800 if you already have the car and want to replace the stock shifter with the GM Hurst "factory" unit!
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I was quoted - retail price $767.72 and $85.00, total $852.72.

No thanks. Maybe at half that, no way in hell at $850.
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I was quoted - retail price $767.72 and $85.00, total $852.72.

No thanks. Maybe at half that, no way in hell at $850.
My dealer told me the same thing today except the factory hurst ball was $80.00. They've got to be crazy. I'll just get the after market shifter and get the factory ball. That's half the price. IMO this is a fail GM.
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My dealer told me the same thing today except the factory hurst ball was $80.00. They've got to be crazy. I'll just get the after market shifter and get the factory ball. That's half the price. IMO this is a fail GM.
I have the Hurst shifter from the factory and I don't have a shift ball. The shifter is the exact same as OEM shifter except mine has the Hurst logo on the side.
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I have the Hurst shifter from the factory and I don't have a shift ball. The shifter is the exact same as OEM shifter except mine has the Hurst logo on the side.
That's what I mean. But like someone else posted I wanted to give GM all my money for parts and installation, would rather have as much GM parts on my car as possible. It just seems to me GM is missing the boat here.
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850.00 that's nuts..
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