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Old 10-04-2010, 01:40 AM   #1
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Sam Bradford......GTAHVIT....... and PQ....... (wager)

Ok.

So GTA is a Peyton Manning guy, and I'm a Tom Brady guy.

We've had a NUMBER of LENGTHY debates on the two......

(oh, and Chris, the last time we debated it, we ended with Manning makes better commercials, I think THAT's a pro Brady, thing)

But I digress.......

Our NEW 'Big One' is Sam Bradford.........

I say he is the most 'Promising' thing to enter the league SINCE Manning.

GTAHVIT says he doesn't see it.

My argument is NOT that he WILL be a HOFer or Pro Bowler for sure, but is the 'closest thing' to a sure thing from a Rookie in over a decade.

SO.................................

I made a bet with GTA..... Drinks at the next fest...... ALL weekend....

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NFL Rookie of the Year

That's right.... I say he will be.

It's a bet in GTAs favor I get that. But I believe Rothlisbooger was the last ROTY to be a QB. NOT often a QB gets that honor.

I say Bradford gets it.

I drink MUCH more than he does. But the bet favors him, so I think it's a good bet.

What say you guys?
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:04 AM   #2
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Sam Bradford, Jahvid Best, Ryan Matthews, C.J. Spiller, Golden Tate, Who else would possibly be eligible?
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:26 AM   #3
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Sam Bradford, Jahvid Best, Ryan Matthews, C.J. Spiller, Golden Tate, Who else would possibly be eligible?
See, I looked at it that way too. Lots of 'Non-ROTY' positions went in the early rounds. Or no players stepping into premeire rolls.

BUT, it's HARD for a QB to beat a RB for ROTY.

MUCH harder. And if it were given right now, it might be given to JB. But Bradford still has yet to get rolling and he's ALREADY doing VERY well.

THe Rams have already won as many games this year as they did in either of the passed two years. And Bradford looks confident. As the game slows down more for him, he'll get rolling even more.

He's already in the middle of the pack in terms of production from the possition IN THE NFL........... And he's a rookie.

I say he has a good shot at beating out a RB.
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Old 10-04-2010, 03:43 AM   #4
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I'd say he has a shot, but I was asking for who else is a rookie that would be a good prospect besides who I listed?

Matthews is hurt, but coming back.
Best is the same.
C.J. Spiller has yet to produce heavy numbers, but that's partly because of his team. BURN!
Golden Tate is a #3 WR.

I'm thinking it'll be Best, Matthews or Bradford because I don't know who else is a rookie.
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Bradford has already doubled the Ram's win total of last year.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:21 AM   #6
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Montario Hardesty and Dez Bryant will finish ahead of Bradford..
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:53 AM   #7
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ooo, Dez Bryant could mess that up for you. Tebow is also a rookie, but I highly doubt he will get the kind of playing time to mean anything significant. Plus, he sucks

Sounds like a good bet for GTAHVIT. Plus, anytime I can see a sooner lose at something, it makes me happy
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:47 PM   #8
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As Sam is going to be a Good QB ( if he can keep a line blocking for him )I think its to early to say " ROOKIE OF THE YEAR "
With guys like Dez bryant and etc its way to early to tell.

Good luck to them all
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:12 PM   #9
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I'd say he has a shot, but I was asking for who else is a rookie that would be a good prospect besides who I listed?

Matthews is hurt, but coming back.
Best is the same.
C.J. Spiller has yet to produce heavy numbers, but that's partly because of his team. BURN!
Golden Tate is a #3 WR.

I'm thinking it'll be Best, Matthews or Bradford because I don't know who else is a rookie.
Yeah. Like was also said, there are a few who could make an impact but Dez Bryant and Jahvid Best are they two who I"m worried about.


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Montario Hardesty and Dez Bryant will finish ahead of Bradford..
Maybe.

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Sounds like a good bet for GTAHVIT. Plus, anytime I can see a sooner lose at something, it makes me happy
I know, I know............

You see I am taking it easy on you guys over the OU game.

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As Sam is going to be a Good QB ( if he can keep a line blocking for him )I think its to early to say " ROOKIE OF THE YEAR "
With guys like Dez bryant and etc its way to early to tell.

Good luck to them all
NO doubt too early, which makes the bet fun.

But having Sunday Ticket, I've watched the Rams games in full. Seen EVERY snap. (I got two games a week I watch in full now. Bills and Rams. lol)

I see Bradford stepping in and ALREADY looking better than a third of the leagues starting QBs and AS GOOD as another 5 or 6. IMO, if he keeps learning at this rate, he'll be a top 15 QB by the end of this year. AS A ROOKIE. Going into next year, I"m betting he'll be a top 15 fantasy pick too.

He's already in the top 15 Fantasty scorers at QB after this week. He was at number 17 last week.

1. Bradford seems to see the game slow down for him pretty quicker than most QBs coming in.
2. He has no prima Donna PITA Veteran recievers and other players to knock his leasdership down, and the ONLY premeir offensive player they have, (Steven Jackson) is totaly on board with Bradford.

So Bradford has control of the offense.

3. The Rams are letting him play. He's throwing 50 times a game. He's bound to learn fast and has the mental and physical skills to do so. They are showing him that they have every confidence in him.
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Old 10-04-2010, 01:18 PM   #10
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Randy, I'm so tempted to ban you....




Randy roped me into this conversation friday night for over an hour....

Randy Bradford. you should hear him talk about him like he's the next Marino, Elway and Jim Kelley.....

Kinda scary.... to hear Randy gush about it.....


I think Bradford is and will be good.... but ROTY.... Not seeing it...
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Randy Bradford
LOL, quote of the week
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:07 PM   #12
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ROTY is a tall order to fill...

It will be interesting to see how this PLAYS out.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:13 PM   #13
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:16 PM   #14
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I don't know, if the Rams keep winning, Bradford has a shot. It's been mentioned, but 4 weeks in is way too early.

Here's one site that's betting Jahvid Best is getting it.

2010 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year Odds
902 Arrelious Benn +1500
903 Ben Tate +600
904 Brandon LaFell +2200
907 CJ Spiller +800
909 Dexter McCluster +1000
910 Dez Bryant +500
912 Emmanuel Sanders +1500
914 Golden Tate +1200
915 Jahvid Best +650
916 Jermaine Gresham +1500
917 Jimmy Clausen +1000
918 Jordan Shipley +2000
919 Montario Hardesty +1500
920 Rob Gronkowski +1500
922 Ryan Mathews +500
923 Sam Bradford +800
925 Tim Tebow +2000
926 Toby Gerhart +1500
928 Field +800

Another list, giving odds that Ryan Matthews or Dez Bryant are the best bets.

If the Rams can go 500 or better, I think Bradford has a shot, especially if the other top rookie teams go worse.
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you guys have it all wrong, Mark Sanchez will get ROTY...in his second year!
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St. Louis Rams rookie QB Sam Bradford was a finalist for the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Month award for September, which ultimately went to Lions RB Jahvid Best.
No doubt about it, Best is off to a great start. Bradford leads all rookie and second year quarterbacks in passing yards, tied with
Josh Freeman for completion percentage (59 percent) and has the seventh most passing attempts (117) of any QB in the league. Check out Bradford's stats through three games, notice anything?

Week 1: 32-55, 58.2 percent, 253 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, 2 sacks, 53.1 rating
Week 2: 14-25, 56 percent, 167 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 3 sacks, 86.6 rating
Week 3: 23-37, 62.2 percent, 235 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 sack, 78.1 rating
Week 4: 23-41, 56.3 percent, 289 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 4 sacks, 93.3 rating

As the weeks have gone by, Bradford's shown improvement with each outing. Combine that with the improvement the team around him showed between weeks 2 and 3, and you could really have something here. Seattle is allowing 315 yards per game through the air this season, so Sam could really pad his stats and help his team get a win this week.
September may not have been Bradford's month for rookie honors, but it's a good bet that one of the coming months will be.
He's also one of the top contenders for the Offensive Rookie of the Year award, though that's a tough road for a rookie QB.
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2010/10...e-of-the-month
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Right now I would have to place Best first with Bradford second. That was really painful to type considering I thought Bradford was overrated and would be a flop. It's still early and Matthews could easily overtake either Best or Bradford. I don't put much stock in Dez but I could be wrong.
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Bradford has a great chance of being ROTY considering all the injuries and lack of playing time. So long as he keeps his health up, I wouldn't be suprised. He and Best are the only two I can see being there. Matthews has fallen considerably with the rise in playing time for Tolbert in SD.
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I'll toast with the winner when it's all said and done. Frankly, I don't care either way. It's all beer to me.
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Getting ready for Chris........... This could look apropriate............


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you guys have it all wrong, Mark Sanchez will get ROTY...in his second year!

No Sanchez for MVP.........maybe not

But Bradford is the real deal. Definate Rookie of the year. He is doing it on a bad team with no elite receivers. Hopefully he can stay healthy unlike stafford.

Oh and Sanchez > Henne.

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you guys may wanna throw Aaron Hernandez in the mix.....Brady may make him ROTY

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I agree bradford does have a shot, but I think Dez Bryant has a much better shot, he is a beast!
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