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Old 10-06-2010, 11:10 AM   #1
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Open or Enclosed Airbox.....final decision

Making my final decision about which intake to choose with my street package from JRE. CAI or Airraid

Do you still here the "sucking" noise with an enclosed airbox?
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:13 AM   #2
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If you want an open box, I would go with the Halltech. Between CAI and Airaid, the CAI wins hands down IMO.

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Old 10-06-2010, 11:18 AM   #3
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I just received the new Vararam V2 intake for my car, believe me this thing definitely fixed all the surging and bucking issues with the original intake. I can't even catch 2nd gear b/c I'm losing traction in first even with a rolling start. This thing is insane.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:24 AM   #4
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I went with the Cold AIr Inductions and love the way it sounds when you put your foot in it.
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Cold Air Industries, heat insulated closed box, love it.
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:33 PM   #7
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:38 PM   #8
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I like the way the black CAI looks.
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It would been interesting to see both the polished ceramic coated CAI and the the black CAI tested. Wonder how much of a difference in IAT's there would be between the two.
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:04 PM   #10
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So im assuming you still get the famous "sucking" vortec noise with an ENCLOSED box.....

lookin like ill be hittin up the CAI....

@Gearhead440.....i like the black look!!
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:36 PM   #11
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If you want an open box, I would go with the Halltech. Between CAI and Airaid, the CAI wins hands down IMO.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107002


Halltech, CAI, or ADM.

Between open and closed air boxes in general.....it's pretty much a prefrence thing. Go with the one you like the looks of.
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This thread has a picture of the wife's car with the CAI in Black:

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Old 10-06-2010, 03:08 PM   #13
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I just received the new Vararam V2 intake for my car, believe me this thing definitely fixed all the surging and bucking issues with the original intake. I can't even catch 2nd gear b/c I'm losing traction in first even with a rolling start. This thing is insane.
One day people here will wake up and realize that an over the radiator intake is the best available.. until then let them argue over which 90* bend with a filter stuck on it is the best. lol.
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:09 PM   #14
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One day people here will wake up and realize that an over the radiator intake is the best available.. until then let them argue over which 90* bend with a filter stuck on it is the best. lol.
Care to back up those claims on a 2010/11 Camaro?
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It would been interesting to see both the polished ceramic coated CAI and the the black CAI tested. Wonder how much of a difference in IAT's there would be between the two.
This is a question that has been asked a few times since we introduced the black CAI. There hasn't been any testing specifically on the black CAI versus the ceramic coated but the black textured powder coat is clearly not going to reflect heat as well as the high polished ceramic coating. That being said, while the ceramic coating is a prominent aesthetic feature (I might point out, the reason its so prominent is because all stock intakes systems and the vast majority of aftermarket intake systems are black.) and does have a practical purpose on the standard CAI intake its not what provides the bulk of the performance gains. The real gains are made by a more efficient intake tract feeding a higher volume of air into the engine.

Gearhead440 has posted some impressive dyno numbers with the black CAI and a few other mods but I am having trouble finding it. Perhaps he can give me an assist. I would also point out the performance numbers posted by Camaros running ADM Performance intake systems as real world evidence that the black textured powder coated finish isn't going to make a significant impact on the CAI systems performance. Its just a new option we thought we would offer for the more sinister crowd.



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To me....the black looks better.

Still not sure that I like the window in the box though...
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To me....the black looks better.

Still not sure that I like the window in the box though...
How is the window visually different from the open top Halltech?
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We can get to our water reservoir easier.
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This is a question that has been asked a few times since we introduced the black CAI. There hasn't been any testing specifically on the black CAI versus the ceramic coated but the black textured powder coat is clearly not going to reflect heat as well as the high polished ceramic coating. That being said, while the ceramic coating is a prominent aesthetic feature (I might point out, the reason its so prominent is because all stock intakes systems and the vast majority of aftermarket intake systems are black.) and does have a practical purpose on the standard CAI intake its not what provides the bulk of the performance gains. The real gains are made by a more efficient intake tract feeding a higher volume of air into the engine.

Gearhead440 has posted some impressive dyno numbers with the black CAI and a few other mods but I am having trouble finding it. Perhaps he can give me an assist. I would also point out the performance numbers posted by Camaros running ADM Performance intake systems as real world evidence that the black textured powder coated finish isn't going to make a significant impact on the CAI systems performance. Its just a new option we thought we would offer for the more sinister crowd.



So there is no ceramic on the Black one? Just wondering, I thought they were the same intake just one get's powder coated?
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Thanks for the your take on the differences. Do you know if the ceramic is on the inside as well? The black CAI is very nice looking intake.

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This is a question that has been asked a few times since we introduced the black CAI. There hasn't been any testing specifically on the black CAI versus the ceramic coated but the black textured powder coat is clearly not going to reflect heat as well as the high polished ceramic coating. That being said, while the ceramic coating is a prominent aesthetic feature (I might point out, the reason its so prominent is because all stock intakes systems and the vast majority of aftermarket intake systems are black.) and does have a practical purpose on the standard CAI intake its not what provides the bulk of the performance gains. The real gains are made by a more efficient intake tract feeding a higher volume of air into the engine.
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So there is no ceramic on the Black one? Just wondering, I thought they were the same intake just one get's powder coated?
They are identical intakes, it is just a question of whether they send it to get ceramic coated or black textured powder coated. Its one or the other.
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Thanks for the your take on the differences. Do you know if the ceramic is on the inside as well? The black CAI is very nice looking intake.
There is not ceramic coating on the inside.
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There is not ceramic coating on the inside.

Ok, good to know. I'm sure there would be no measurable difference between the black and ceramic then. Either one would be great choice.

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One day people here will wake up and realize that an over the radiator intake is the best available.. until then let them argue over which 90* bend with a filter stuck on it is the best. lol.
Did you forget to list the over-the-radiator intake in your signature list or don't you have the best?
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Since you asked nicely . And if took me a HECK of a lot longer to paint the engine cover then install your CAI, I would like to add! Nothing but good words for you, your service and the products you sell .

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106599

C.A.I cold air intake, ADM race scoop, TSP underdrive pulley, hand ported exhaust manifolds with high-temp coating, rear cat removed, front cat ported for 3 inch inlet pipe with header wrap, polished throttle body, Mobil 1 trans fluid, Royal Purple gear lube in rear, Rev Xtreme catch can, stock exhaust system from cats back including stock mufflers - there is no tune with this combination. I have less than $1400 in everthing but the cutting, porting, welding and installation took some time.

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Heat is the killer. If you are serious about reducing underhood temps, coat your exhaust manifolds or headers with some type of high temp coating that keeps the heat inside the exhaust. It will increase the efficiency of your exhaust and reduce the engine compartment heat thereby reducing the amount of heat transfered into your intake. My $0.02.
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