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Old 10-07-2010, 01:22 AM   #326
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Are they really gonna go ahead with that design ?
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:22 AM   #327
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:23 AM   #328
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I do believe we got your point the first post.

And I do not see why this isn't just a Euro Spec Camaro. hopefully.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:30 AM   #329
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not going to happen. I am not going to read 300 responses of folks opinions. I am sure I am missing something crucial but I don't care if it's not on the first page in a thread that isn't interesting enough to read through.

I'm not talking about reading opinion sir. I'm talking about the gobs of people on this thread saying that they are glad they bought a '10 or '11 Camaro because they don't like the mirrors and tail lights in the pictures. Also putting comments that they think GM is crazy for the design. It is obviously a Euro design only to cope with their weird little auto laws and if members would read just a little bit further than the first page they would see that. When I find a thread that I find interesting, I like to read through it to see different things and to get different ideas and opinions. When I read through a thread like this it irritates me because over 1/2 of it doesn't need to be here.......just saying
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:30 AM   #330
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WTF? This is a Euro thing. No way they'd attempt this in the states, that would be suicide...
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:32 AM   #331
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Revo imma kick your azz ! lol Whats up buddy...... How do you like the design ?
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:35 AM   #332
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Uncool.

Interested in the piece between the half shafts from the rear....hum.

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:39 AM   #333
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Revo imma kick your azz ! lol Whats up buddy...... How do you like the design ?
Wussup Steve, hangin in there brotha! Man these new changes are hideiferous, I can't stand em. But I'm thinkin these bits and pieces are designed to meet European safety regs and such. Take this European 4th gen for example...
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:40 AM   #334
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Note the change in size and shape of the mirrors on both gen 4 & 5, plus the additional reflectors on the rear bumper.... There are also side reflectors on the 4th gen that aren't present on the domestic models.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:42 AM   #335
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:57 AM   #336
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Yikes! Don't like any of it. Odd, ditch molding not painted (RS) but has halo's like an RS. What is that little box between the mufflers? A Cylon tracking device? Sunglasses tail lights designed by Elton John was a spot on observation. I doubt the Euro crowd would like these changes.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:06 AM   #337
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Boy am I glad I bought a 2011, and did not wait. That is absolutely horrible GM. Way to kill a good thing.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:10 AM   #338
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Revo imma kick your azz ! lol Whats up buddy...... How do you like the design ?
Speakin of designs, I'm diggin the sig! Hazman is BEAST
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:25 AM   #339
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Those mirrors make the car look like Dumbo. I'm guessing all those changes are for the European crowd and we won't get any of them here.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:39 AM   #340
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The tail lights are not bad imo. It looks cleaner without the reverse lights right smack in the middle of the bumper. The mirrors however need to go, they look like dumbos ears.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:47 AM   #341
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Mirrors are very Euro. Hope the tailights are too.
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:31 AM   #342
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:31 AM   #343
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:40 AM   #344
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Did anyone notice the headlamp washers? That's also a requirement in Europe - AND the headlights have to be self-leveling (something I know the Camaro has not got in US form).

Can I also point out a few things:

1. I've spent time with Chevy and some UK tuners - the original rear lights break all sorts of laws in the UK. They can't even be modified well to fit UK regs (not to manufacturer standards) so they HAD to change. Black them out and they'll look almost stock. Big deal. (Ie, you'll get used to it!)
2. We've mentioned the mirrors and turn signals - no way around it here. That's the law. But again, once you own the car - CHANGE them. How hard can it be to get some stock mirror housings? Really?
3. Tow hooks. Law. But why wouldn't you have them?!

Okay, so it's not quite a pretty but it's really all cosmetic and if you care enough to own the car, you can make it your own. I still want one and I'd really like the Z28 (which we probably won't get) so quit yer moaning and be thankful the Camaro even exists today!

(ALL said with a smile, folks)

Oh, and moving the reverse lamps.. come on! Remember how bad the up-roar was about that? Surely that new bumper/fender (whatever you call it) skin is an improvement?! :P
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:48 AM   #345
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Those tail lights have to go.
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:51 AM   #346
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What is the talk about a new 500HP LSA engine? Nurburgring video was cool.
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Old 10-07-2010, 06:07 AM   #347
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those mirrors and tail lights are hideous. Makes me love and appreciate my 2010 which imo was designed perfectly.
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Old 10-07-2010, 06:56 AM   #348
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The tail lights, when on, look like a cheap pair of "hollywood"/rhinestone sunglasses.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:16 AM   #349
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The mirrors look like the Japanese version of the - not good
The taillights look like a Chinese cheap product - not good at all
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:39 AM   #350
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they are european version alright

yellow taillights for left/right

and sidemirrors with lights

I payed 1500 to modify initial ones due to road Road Authority requirments.
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