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Old 11-17-2010, 04:10 PM   #626
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Thumbs down Bad.

Whoo, redesign!! ...wait a minute, what are those mirrors and tail lights

Glad i'm already in, or I would be looking at stang'ers.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:30 PM   #627
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it doesn't work for me.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:53 PM   #628
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I like the addition of light on the mirrors, but not the change in shape.
And those tail lights are crap!
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:01 PM   #629
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when is f-bod going to come in here and say this is an april fools joke or something

gm don't even begin to play you guys are just getting your ipo

DON'T F UP THE CAMARO!!
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:19 PM   #630
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I like the addition of light on the mirrors, but not the change in shape.
And those tail lights are crap!
+1... LED turn indicators on the mirrors are one of the best ideas to come along since Gen 1 Camaros!
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:30 AM   #631
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I will be very disappointed if they make those changes! The car is beautiful as it is now! those tail lights look like they belong on a ricer and those mirrors look like they belong on a KIA! Those are Extremely UGLY modifications!!!
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:30 PM   #632
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Whoever though of this should have their testicles removed and fed to crocodiles.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:31 PM   #633
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Whoever though of this should have their testicles removed and fed to crocodiles.
why remove them...just feed the crocs, they'll come off on their own.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:26 PM   #634
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Glad I have the 2010!!
The only thing I like is that the antenna is removed from the roof. They are getting further away from the original.
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Old 11-20-2010, 10:25 PM   #635
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I just thought I'd add to all the negative feedback.

If those side mirrors and taillights are approved changes then I would shop around for something more tasteful.
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:29 PM   #636
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I like the tailights and rear bumper, mirrors on the other hand I dont
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Old 11-22-2010, 01:01 PM   #637
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Not a fan of the square shaped side mirrors, I like the blinker marker though. The tail lights are horrendous imo! Don't really care about the rear markers, you can always go aftermarket to change the look if you hate it that much.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:57 AM   #638
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the side mirrors HUGE and what the thing between the exhaust the taillights not bad look like 1969 camaro
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Old 11-23-2010, 07:08 AM   #639
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dont like how the reverse lights are integrated within the taillights. i like the reverse lights in the bumper better.
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Old 11-23-2010, 09:15 AM   #640
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Righty- roo!! ... standard on CTS-Vs destined for the middle east
It is most likely that it's a global test mule, and that there is more then just the changed lights and mirrors to be tested. Chances are it will be shipped off to the Dubai office and tested there in the heat, and then off to what ever other locations have the environments to test the changes they want looked at.

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Europe requires more safety (nanny) items than the US. Thats all..
I had to laugh so hard at this. It's actually the other way around! That is why you never see the really cool small hot hatches in the US and you never see the super high MPG models. It's simply because it's not worth retooling the design to accomidate all the US safety gadgets.

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uumm.... I think if I was a head GM design engineer/project manager or VP, I'd come to this site and find out what Camaro owners think ahead of mass producing what's in the pics at the beginning of this thread.
Do you really think that they would make a multi million dollar design change based on the opinions of people who rant and rave like this? or would you go out and ask people who are more likely to actually buy one in 2012? Trust me, they are asking plenty of people, plenty of question, with plenty of design revisions.

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wth does china have to do with anything
Ummm, it's the largest car market in the world, and the absolute largest one for GM. Hence the global headquarters being based there, and partly the reason to keep Buick over Pontiac. Face it, GM will sell more cars outside the US then in the US in the coming years, and will certainly make more money outside the US. Which is why they spun off the international division before going bankrupt. International made money all those years where the US market imploded slowly.

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Here's the reason behind the big collapsable mirrors. Europe is requiring folding mirrors for pedestrian impact safety.

So the 18-wheeler mirrors probably won't be in the US.
Which makes more sense? Make 2 or more mirrors to meet local standards, needing more assembly lines and more labor? or make one, and get the economies of scale that come with one global design? It's thinking like that which caused billions in losses during the 80's and 90's.

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The actual updates to be implemented will be a uniform release for every country US included, the changes from these images is subtle however, the mirrors will be LARGER and the tail lights will be continual all the way across the rear of the vehicle. The new version will be uniform(the same) for every country.
This makes by far the most sense, and will likely be what will happen. It makes zero financial sense to have more then one version of the car when you can get by with one. It is, after all, a product of the global design studios.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:39 PM   #641
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?!?!

I'm sorry but no. Just no. Retro-trashy and the mirrors...??? And for all its glory the Camaro already has blind-spot problems. Who's half-a$$ idea was it to cut them in half? It it's not broken don't fix it. If beauty must be tampered with, there are plenty of other angles from which it could have been approached. DISAPPROVE!
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:44 PM   #642
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I hate the tail lights. I hope they don't export them either as it removes on of the Camaro's best features. It does not surprise me at all that no one else likes them either. They are a mess.
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Old 11-26-2010, 07:03 PM   #643
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Say it esent true. Tail light are just plane ugley. mirrors to big.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:59 PM   #644
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Old 11-30-2010, 11:39 AM   #645
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Those tail lights are fugly.
Don't Germans and Japanese deserve good taste ???
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Old 11-30-2010, 07:06 PM   #646
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Old 12-06-2010, 04:57 PM   #647
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Honestly I would get the mirrors, the ones we have look cool but aren't functional so id switch to those if I could
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Old 12-08-2010, 09:40 AM   #648
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Saw a few of these go down the line lately actually. I really dont mind the tail lights but one thing thats not in those pictures is that they have headlight sprayers on them now.

The mirrors just ruin the lines of the car IMO, but i really do like the indicator lights on them thats for sure.
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:39 AM   #649
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Do you really think that they would make a multi million dollar design change based on the opinions of people who rant and rave like this? or would you go out and ask people who are more likely to actually buy one in 2012? Trust me, they are asking plenty of people, plenty of question, with plenty of design revisions.
I hope they do decide based on asking a lot of questions to the people that WILL buy one. And yes, I happen to be one of them "ranting" on here, about the design change.

I am waiting for an answer from the official importer over here in Belgium as to when I can put down a deposit on a Z28.

IF however, these taillights and truck mirrors make it to the car, I will definitely order and retrofit 2011 tailllights and the "small" mirrors as I like that a lot more than what I see on those pictures. They're plain ugly and ruin the lines of the car, and apparently I'm not the only one to think this way.

If GM does want to listen to his customers, then this is a good place to start IMO.
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:06 PM   #650
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lights and sideview

I like the LEDs but the the mirrors..... they alway have a way of messing up a good thing.... Makes you wonder if it the same guy that designed the car did the changes or did they hand it off to a disgrental employee....

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