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Old 10-07-2010, 11:14 AM   #154
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Did any of you guys notice that the suspension doesn not bob around the same corners that showed problems in the 2010 protoypes?
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:28 AM   #155
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audio was crap(lots of background noise)..mostly heard the wind/traffic.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:29 AM   #156
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What a rough track....They should use Road America.
why?

the ring is the standard. . .it may be rough but if a car can't handle it will show on that track.
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We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:44 AM   #157
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What a rough track....They should use Road America.
To match what you can test at the 'ring you'd need to go to at least half a dozen tracks. There really isn't a better place in the world to work on the suspension setup for a car.

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Because of Pete's work on the Zeta2, we know it's capable of out performing the CTS-V, but at a cost. GM can't afford to ignore NVH for all out performance.

(this is pure speculation) Expect to see rpo FE4 with fatter tires, bigger brakes, larger sways, revalved struts/shocks, higher durometer bushings in key areas. Even with all that, it will be tuned to acceptable (for the majority of buyers) NVH.

They will compromise where Pedders didn't have to.
The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 won't be more refined (with regard to NVH) than the Cadillac CTS-V. If anything, it will be less refined, which opens the door to improved performance. Whatever they did in the CTS-V, they can push it a little further in the Camaro. So the suspension can be a bit firmer and they'll get away with it. And the exhaust can be a bit louder and they'll get away with it. But even if everything is tuned the exact same as the CTS-V, the Z28 is going to be a bit lighter which will improve overall performance.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:31 PM   #158
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To match what you can test at the 'ring you'd need to go to at least half a dozen tracks. There really isn't a better place in the world to work on the suspension setup for a car.


The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 won't be more refined (with regard to NVH) than the Cadillac CTS-V. If anything, it will be less refined, which opens the door to improved performance. Whatever they did in the CTS-V, they can push it a little further in the Camaro. So the suspension can be a bit firmer and they'll get away with it. And the exhaust can be a bit louder and they'll get away with it. But even if everything is tuned the exact same as the CTS-V, the Z28 is going to be a bit lighter which will improve overall performance.
I would agree if they were on the same platform, the caddy engineers have the sigma nailed... And the cts-v that ran the 'ring was ... special
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:09 PM   #160
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****ing brilliant, the killer z28 is back!
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:13 PM   #161
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:14 PM   #162
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I would agree if they were on the same platform, the caddy engineers have the sigma nailed... And the cts-v that ran the 'ring was ... special
Zeta > Sigma
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:33 PM   #163
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Awesome! Sounds really good in the video!!!

...but let me tell ya, nothing compares to how it sounds in person.

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...you didn't hear anything in person ... lol

Awsome video by the way, ...sounds great!!
... b-b-b-but... wasn't that a V6 car we heard... ?!?

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Zeta > Sigma
Yeah but, when it comes to bean counters pissin' on their Parade: Cadillac > Chevy
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... b-b-b-but... wasn't that a V6 car we heard... ?!?

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What is your opinion on the cts-v vs z28 debate as well?
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:09 PM   #166
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At 30 sec. in, watch the Mustang spy run in fear when he sees the Z28

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Old 10-07-2010, 02:20 PM   #167
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it's funny but to me the hood, lower grill and the rear spoiler all look like aftermarket parts we have been seening on owners cars for about a year now...

Hey one of you guys that have those parts on your Camaro get some chekerboard Contact paper and put it all over your car and go driving around and see if pictures of it show up on here as the Z28 testing on the streets LOL...
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:21 PM   #168
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I would really really like to be able to afford one of these new Z/28's but I think its going to be out of my price range.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:40 PM   #169
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Old 10-07-2010, 03:03 PM   #170
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For sure this will not be the final look of the Z,however i'd want the look to be 'standout' better than the 2010 SS.You see i own a 1ss,lowered,piped,tinted etc that looks pretty damn cute at the mo'.I want the Z to look Killer when parked alongside an SS, parked in a showroom.I want wider wheels,lower stance,more aggresive ducting on bodywork,ear melting exhaust,dyno smoking performance,i want the full package to be truly irresistable.C'mon GM,'make my day'.
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