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Old 10-07-2010, 09:26 AM   #151
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It sure looked like it was handling the track farely well..... i guess we'll see when official specs come out.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:05 AM   #152
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Love that whine on takeoff at the 1:20ish mark. How much louder is the maggie with the cog drive?
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:14 AM   #153
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We already have a CTS-V killer Camaro so just think about what we can do with a next level performance Camaro
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Why? Generally speaking if you have the same drivetrain in a lighter car, its going to be faster.
Because of Pete's work on the Zeta2, we know it's capable of out performing the CTS-V, but at a cost. GM can't afford to ignore NVH for all out performance.

(this is pure speculation) Expect to see rpo FE4 with fatter tires, bigger brakes, larger sways, revalved struts/shocks, higher durometer bushings in key areas. Even with all that, it will be tuned to acceptable (for the majority of buyers) NVH.

They will compromise where Pedders didn't have to.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:14 AM   #154
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Did any of you guys notice that the suspension doesn not bob around the same corners that showed problems in the 2010 protoypes?
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:28 AM   #155
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audio was crap(lots of background noise)..mostly heard the wind/traffic.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:29 AM   #156
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What a rough track....They should use Road America.
why?

the ring is the standard. . .it may be rough but if a car can't handle it will show on that track.
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Old 10-07-2010, 10:44 AM   #157
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What a rough track....They should use Road America.
To match what you can test at the 'ring you'd need to go to at least half a dozen tracks. There really isn't a better place in the world to work on the suspension setup for a car.

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Because of Pete's work on the Zeta2, we know it's capable of out performing the CTS-V, but at a cost. GM can't afford to ignore NVH for all out performance.

(this is pure speculation) Expect to see rpo FE4 with fatter tires, bigger brakes, larger sways, revalved struts/shocks, higher durometer bushings in key areas. Even with all that, it will be tuned to acceptable (for the majority of buyers) NVH.

They will compromise where Pedders didn't have to.
The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 won't be more refined (with regard to NVH) than the Cadillac CTS-V. If anything, it will be less refined, which opens the door to improved performance. Whatever they did in the CTS-V, they can push it a little further in the Camaro. So the suspension can be a bit firmer and they'll get away with it. And the exhaust can be a bit louder and they'll get away with it. But even if everything is tuned the exact same as the CTS-V, the Z28 is going to be a bit lighter which will improve overall performance.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:31 AM   #158
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To match what you can test at the 'ring you'd need to go to at least half a dozen tracks. There really isn't a better place in the world to work on the suspension setup for a car.


The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 won't be more refined (with regard to NVH) than the Cadillac CTS-V. If anything, it will be less refined, which opens the door to improved performance. Whatever they did in the CTS-V, they can push it a little further in the Camaro. So the suspension can be a bit firmer and they'll get away with it. And the exhaust can be a bit louder and they'll get away with it. But even if everything is tuned the exact same as the CTS-V, the Z28 is going to be a bit lighter which will improve overall performance.
I would agree if they were on the same platform, the caddy engineers have the sigma nailed... And the cts-v that ran the 'ring was ... special
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:09 PM   #160
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****ing brilliant, the killer z28 is back!
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:13 PM   #161
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:14 PM   #162
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I would agree if they were on the same platform, the caddy engineers have the sigma nailed... And the cts-v that ran the 'ring was ... special
Zeta > Sigma
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:33 PM   #163
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Awesome! Sounds really good in the video!!!

...but let me tell ya, nothing compares to how it sounds in person.

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...you didn't hear anything in person ... lol

Awsome video by the way, ...sounds great!!
... b-b-b-but... wasn't that a V6 car we heard... ?!?

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Old 10-07-2010, 12:40 PM   #164
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Zeta > Sigma
Yeah but, when it comes to bean counters pissin' on their Parade: Cadillac > Chevy
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... b-b-b-but... wasn't that a V6 car we heard... ?!?

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... you tell us

What is your opinion on the cts-v vs z28 debate as well?
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:09 PM   #166
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At 30 sec. in, watch the Mustang spy run in fear when he sees the Z28

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:20 PM   #167
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it's funny but to me the hood, lower grill and the rear spoiler all look like aftermarket parts we have been seening on owners cars for about a year now...

Hey one of you guys that have those parts on your Camaro get some chekerboard Contact paper and put it all over your car and go driving around and see if pictures of it show up on here as the Z28 testing on the streets LOL...
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:21 PM   #168
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I would really really like to be able to afford one of these new Z/28's but I think its going to be out of my price range.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:40 PM   #169
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I would really really like to be able to afford one of these new Z/28's but I think its going to be out of my price range.
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For sure this will not be the final look of the Z,however i'd want the look to be 'standout' better than the 2010 SS.You see i own a 1ss,lowered,piped,tinted etc that looks pretty damn cute at the mo'.I want the Z to look Killer when parked alongside an SS, parked in a showroom.I want wider wheels,lower stance,more aggresive ducting on bodywork,ear melting exhaust,dyno smoking performance,i want the full package to be truly irresistable.C'mon GM,'make my day'.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:13 PM   #171
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With this thing on the streets, my camaro will look like a child
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For sure this will not be the final look of the Z,however i'd want the look to be 'standout' better than the 2010 SS.You see i own a 1ss,lowered,piped,tinted etc that looks pretty damn cute at the mo'.I want the Z to look Killer when parked alongside an SS, parked in a showroom.I want wider wheels,lower stance,more aggresive ducting on bodywork,ear melting exhaust,dyno smoking performance,i want the full package to be truly irresistable.C'mon GM,'make my day'.
Remember there hasn't ever been alot of differences between the Z28 and the SS models other than wheels, some trim items, some times the hood and of course the emblems...
And the very first Z28 (67) didn't look any different than your base model 6 Cyl Camaro.
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Awesome! Sounds really good in the video!!!

...but let me tell ya, nothing compares to how it sounds in person.
Dual mode open?...

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at the verry end, was that a red camaro convertable in the back round?
I saw that one, too! 'Vert Z28?... Okay - that may be asking too much

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Thats FREAKIN AWESOME!!! Screw Nurburging give me one to test at ATCO!!!
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EPIC says it all. You can tell that they are out to make a statement. Yes, I am afraid it would be a garage queen for me..... but it's a lot easier to walk out to the garage than drive to a dealer, crank it up, hear the supercharger whining asking for attention, being pulled to the rear to hear the exhaust backpopping, sit in the driver seat a bit, crank up the radio, turn off the radio, record the pipes for my stereo, wax it up, take it out for a mellow growly ride, listen to the cam loping as I creep through the crowd of lookers on Sat. nite, maybe even park it, sharing the marvel of what our designers and engineers have created because it will be rare; then as I go home ... rev it up, wind it out a few times listening to the backpressure pops as I let off the throttle, drive her home, remove the dust, etc, once again listen to the loping growl echoing in the garage, check out the side view mirrors, look at the guages monitoring the systems, make sure the radio is set to my favorite station, enjoy a toast at the end of the evening, gently roll up the windows, check it over, reshine any imperfections, and ever so softly put the car cover on, wish it a good nite, turn off the lite, and peek back to make sure she's ok.... then go to bed, knowing a legend is here providing both solitude and joy, excited that a new day begins at the crack of dawn and I can do it all again........... thanks GM. Thanks.
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To match what you can test at the 'ring you'd need to go to at least half a dozen tracks. There really isn't a better place in the world to work on the suspension setup for a car.

The Chevrolet Camaro Z28 won't be more refined (with regard to NVH) than the Cadillac CTS-V. If anything, it will be less refined, which opens the door to improved performance. Whatever they did in the CTS-V, they can push it a little further in the Camaro. So the suspension can be a bit firmer and they'll get away with it. And the exhaust can be a bit louder and they'll get away with it. But even if everything is tuned the exact same as the CTS-V, the Z28 is going to be a bit lighter which will improve overall performance.
Lower restriction exhaust = more power; stiffer ride = lowered with better bushings, springs, sways, coil overs and better handline

I fully expect Z28 to be at least a couple seconds faster than CTS-V. Like 'G said - Z28 can be tuned to be a lot more aggressive which will result in a better performing car. I'm hoping we get some magneto' shocks with all this too, but there are vendors here that are putting out probably better products for us, so I'm not worried about anything.

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... b-b-b-but... wasn't that a V6 car we heard... ?!?

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I would really really like to be able to afford one of these new Z/28's but I think its going to be out of my price range.
At least Z28 is coming back
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Skyman,thats what bothers me,i worry that its not going to be 'stand-out' different/better than what i own.
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Please make me wrong!
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