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Old 12-26-2008, 05:23 PM   #26
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#3 you mentioned that you have enough headroom in the car, how tall are you? I am 6"8" and need to know if i fit, i would not order the sunroof even if it does not effect the headroom, but i need to know if im gonna fit. Thanks for all your pictures and your thoughts on the car, they are greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:53 PM   #27
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Number 3--Don't hesitate to post. I am sure that everyone feels that there is no such thing as too much information Hope you are enjoying your vacation/road trip as much as we are!
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:00 PM   #28
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Is there any loss what soever in headroom? same height as non sunroofed cars? if not what is the difference? Thanks again.
I think I read somewhere with that design Sunroof you either do not lose any or nearly as much as you do with the retracts IN-THE-ROOF designs.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:10 PM   #29
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I think I read somewhere with that design Sunroof you either do not lose any or nearly as much as you do with the retracts IN-THE-ROOF designs.
That's right; we're talking more than an inch of difference - which is do or die for the taller folks.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:12 PM   #30
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HeatherR and Number3 - You two have provided the GREAT excitement that we have been craving for. Thanks for your commitment and generosity in sharing your experiences with us who are drooling into our keyboards.

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Old 12-26-2008, 07:13 PM   #31
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HeatherR and Number3 - You two have provided the GREAT excitement that we have been craving for. Thanks for your commitment and generosity in sharing your experiences with us who are drooling into our keyboards.

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Old 12-26-2008, 07:29 PM   #32
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Some more eye candy.

Sorry no pictures of the sunroof from inside, next time out.

For those concerned, this is the roomiest coupe with a sunroof I know of. I am 6' tall, but I have most of my height in my torso meaning I sit tall, plus I drive with a more upright seat positiion.

Also note, this car has the power driver seat which may offer more up down adjustment than the base seat. But I have no problem from the passenger side either which has the manual seat.

Sorry, I don't have the dimensions for with and without sunroof.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:32 PM   #33
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HeatherR and Number3 - You two have provided the GREAT excitement that we have been craving for. Thanks for your commitment and generosity in sharing your experiences with us who are drooling into our keyboards.
It's their job to report back. Don't be so worried about offending them. We're shelling out 45k for a car froma Company that needs the public behind them. Grow a pair and ask whatever you want.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:35 PM   #34
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It's their job to report back. Don't be so worried about offending them. We're shelling out 45k for a car from a Company that needs the public behind them. Grow a pair and ask whatever you want.
It's most definitely NOT their job. So any and all respect is expected to be shown towards them. Steve was doing just that.

I haven't thanked you yet, Number 3!
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:35 PM   #35
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More great pics!!! THANKS..... keepem coming
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:38 PM   #36
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If you're paying $45K for your Camaro you screwed something up real big...
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:39 PM   #37
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It's their job to report back. Don't be so worried about offending them. We're shelling out 45k for a car froma Company that needs the public behind them. Grow a pair and ask whatever you want.
Man....your gonna ruin it for all of us....
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:43 PM   #38
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Wow that red is looking awesome. Hmmmm I dunno do I have time left to change my colour? LOL!!! Its almost tempting when I see beautiful pics like this but I have a thing for silver..plus its easier to keep it looking clean so I think I will stick with silver!!
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:47 PM   #39
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If you're paying $45K for your Camaro you screwed something up real big...
When you add the 21" wheel option you're paying 45k, do the math.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:54 PM   #40
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Wow that red is looking awesome. Hmmmm I dunno do I have time left to change my colour? LOL!!! Its almost tempting when I see beautiful pics like this but I have a thing for silver..plus its easier to keep it looking clean so I think I will stick with silver!!
I was a bit worried when everyone kept talking about CGM, Black and Silver since I had ordered red. I started to second guess a bit and my wife said "that's the color you originally wanted and you wanted if for a reason so stick with it." After seeing these latest pictures, she was completely right. This car looks beautiful all shined up!
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:03 PM   #41
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I doubt you could offend me. Sharing my excitement about this car with a dedicated group of people already passionate about it isn't really hard.

I am not an expert on this car, although I have worked with and met many of the people at that have worked so hard on it. The Product Manager at Chevy is a dear friend of my wife's and we stopped in Phoenix so she could see the car with her parents. My wife worked with fbodfather and we know his passion for this car. I've worked with and met many of the people at Holden as well. I've been excited about this car as an employee as long as you have been as enthusiasts. It is another step in the great products that GM will be bringing out over the next few years. I told some key people over a year ago that if they would just get me one of these early cars, I'd drive it to California and put as many miles as possible on it as I could.

So your excitement is wonderful, but my kicks also come from watching the drivers of Toyotas and Hondas nod and give thumbs up. The guy in the Hyundai Tiburon with his lady friend in the passenger seat taking flash photos at night for 1/2 an hour. Those are the reactions that let me know how special this car is.

So you can ask questions all you want. There are some I can't answer because I don't know, some I can't answer as a GM employee and the ones I can.....well just know that they are my opinion from driving the car.

For me, your excitement is what makes my job really satisfying. The paycheck helps, but I really love your passion and excitement for this car.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:06 PM   #42
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It's their job to report back. Don't be so worried about offending them. We're shelling out 45k for a car froma Company that needs the public behind them. Grow a pair and ask whatever you want.
Ya dude whats your problem, show a little respect.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:08 PM   #43
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It's most definitely NOT their job. So any and all respect is expected to be shown towards them. Steve was doing just that.

I haven't thanked you yet, Number 3!
Number 3 Quote:"For me, your excitement is what makes my job really satisfying. The paycheck helps, but I really love your passion and excitement for this car."

Not their job?
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Number 3 Quote:"For me, your excitement is what makes my job really satisfying. The paycheck helps, but I really love your passion and excitement for this car."

Not their job?
They don't need to be on this site. So...no, it's not their job to report back to us, as you said. HeatherR, and Number 3 aren't paid to drive the cars, afaik...consider it more of a perk. My point was that those from GM who post here aren't side-shows at some county fair. Please be a little more respectful towards them, as you would any member.

Back to the test car, please.
Number 3, can you post any of your thoughts regarding the LT's handling, road-manners, etc?
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:13 PM   #45
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Number 3 Quote:"For me, your excitement is what makes my job really satisfying. The paycheck helps, but I really love your passion and excitement for this car."

Not their job?
Tango, give it a rest. Number3 and HeatherR have been great at giving us a peak at life with this car. Let's just show them some respect. They didn't HAVE to post anything on here. I think we all appreciate them, whether it is their job or not.
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I'm as passionate about this car as anyone. The first car i bought when i was 16 was a 67 that i bought with saved money after working at a fast food restaurant for two years and that i still own to this day. Most of my friends had Camaros. My Mother bought the Berlinetta the first year it bowed in 79. I've been looking forward to a retro camaro for the past 2 decades. In my opinion the designs have been subpar at best the past 20 years. The 5th Gen is a great design that i hope is a sgreat in person as on paper.

My biggest complaint, and if everyone doesn't back me up on this you're an idiot, is the way the car is being rolled out.

The on-line press conference was held in a freak'n garage that didn't do it justice.

The dealers have no idea what they are selling. Has anyone at GM heard about "web-conferencing"? There is no control by Corporate GM on how they are taking deposits. I had one dealer ask for 4k down and another ask for $100 down.

What would it take to produce a brochure that explains all options along with a color swatch?

You ask the consumers to show GM respect? They're not showing us any at this point.

Put the money into brochures instead of paying a dozen people to ride around the country and give you their pre-scripted canned answers to our questions.

Don't question my passion or love for the car when i'm buying it from a picture.

Step up GM and give us the appropriate tools to evaluate and purchase the car. It is no wonder that they are in financial trouble. Get your house in order so that we acually get to have a 5th gen Camaro.
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When you add the 21" wheel option you're paying 45k, do the math.
I did the math. A 2SS with every factory option box ticked is $38,540. That would mean the 21 inch wheels are $7000ish and I humbly suggest that if you're paying $7,000 for wheels, you very much are Doing It Wrong.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:28 PM   #48
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Number 3, Any chance for a video with sound of the V-6 engine? We'd all appreciate it...someone just posted a video of Heathers ride with sound.Again, thanks for your posts! They are appreciated by all members here
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It's their job to report back. Don't be so worried about offending them. We're shelling out 45k for a car froma Company that needs the public behind them. Grow a pair and ask whatever you want.
Maybe you can put your pair back in your pants and be a little more respectful. He was just trying to be polite. Which by the way is something often lacking when users post with relative anonymity.

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I'm as passionate about this car as anyone. The first car i bought when i was 16 was a 67 that i bought with saved money after working at a fast food restaurant for two years and that i still own to this day. Most of my friends had Camaros. My Mother bought the Berlinetta the first year it bowed in 79. I've been looking forward to a retro camaro for the past 2 decades. In my opinion the designs have been subpar at best the past 20 years. The 5th Gen is a great design that i hope is a sgreat in person as on paper.

My biggest complaint, and if everyone doesn't back me up on this you're an idiot, is the way the car is being rolled out.

The on-line press conference was held in a freak'n garage that didn't do it justice.

The dealers have no idea what they are selling. Has anyone at GM heard about "web-conferencing"? There is no control by Corporate GM on how they are taking deposits. I had one dealer ask for 4k down and another ask for $100 down.

What would it take to produce a brochure that explains all options along with a color swatch?

You ask the consumers to show GM respect? They're not showing us any at this point.

Put the money into brochures instead of paying a dozen people to ride around the country and give you their pre-scripted canned answers to our questions.

Don't question my passion or love for the car when i'm buying it from a picture.

Step up GM and give us the appropriate tools to evaluate and purchase the car. It is no wonder that they are in financial trouble. Get your house in order so that we acually get to have a 5th gen Camaro.
We have an official color brochure on this site in PDF format. It is very nice. Dealers have their own policies on orders because they are not GM. They are independent businesses protected by franchise law. Don't like it? Take it up with your government. GM can't do anything about it, just like any other manufacturer.

These people don't get the cars to ride around the country as a PR thing. It is a product testing program, plain and simple.

I hate to be rude, but you simply have no idea how the auto industry works.
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