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Old 07-17-2007, 08:25 PM   #51
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Maybe but how do you explain the HHR or the 1994 Camaro Concepts?
I sure hope your right, because it's perfect the way it is.

Boy they sure missed on the charger though. I like the concept better, but my Wife
likes the current one.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:36 PM   #52
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:37 PM   #53
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okay, okay - you've got me in a corner...if I could find evidence of past Concepts, I would. But I can't....

Regardless, like I said, The Camaro is staying - for the most part - unchanged.

As for the Charger. I am SOOO glad they went with what they did. that concept is as far from reality, as I can imagine...it looks alien...
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:58 PM   #54
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Well, look at the Pontiac GTO concept and look what we got. I'd say it changed more than any of these other examples, and it's a GM product.





Anyway, we only care about the new Camaro here, and we know the production model won't change much from the concept...so nothing else matters.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:27 PM   #55
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Anyway, we only care about the new Camaro here, and we know the production model won't change much from the concept...so nothing else matters.
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BTW: We all now realize that Dragoneye stuck his foot in his mouth...real...real...deep. Now can we all pretend that he didn't...please?
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:29 PM   #56
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Bottom line, obviously most of the fans LOVE the concept! So why would they toy with it and change it around when they know they already have an adoring crowd?!
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:05 AM   #57
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Though I agree with you on the examples you've shown, Chevrolet and GM in general have a very good reputation for bringing concepts to production with very minimal change.

AND. regardless of that, There have been confirmed reports by many memebers of GM (Ed Peper, Bob Lutz...etc.) stating that they have seen the production model, and we won't be able to tell the difference. I trust them on that 100%.
Obviously the mirrors, and the tire size, and possibly the headlights (mechanically), but other than that, the Production Camaro stays true to the Concept.

Meaning: The nose will NOT change...
I'm w/ Dragon 100% on this. GM staff said it wasn't changing (other than the obvious). Now, w/ the 94 Camaro or HHR...I'd need to see pix of the HHR in it's concept form too see what happened, because that is a picture of a HHR that was given to Unique Performance for the "Rides" episode where they pimp and mod it oud. But, regardless, we visited this entire topic 6 months ago and other pix were put up proving that GM really stays true to it's roots. I rememer seeing a picture of the Chrysler Crossfire in there too.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:59 AM   #58
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Look at the mustang for example...it's not THAT much different than the concept. And plus take into consideration that the second one is a V6 model and not a GT. The GTO...correct me if i'm wrong but the concept was in 99...long before the zeta platform. (like i said i might be wrong about that)

I have faith in GM and hold them to their word that minor things will change but it will be really close to the concept. I mean so far they have done everything they said they would do.
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Maybe but how do you explain the HHR or the 1994 Camaro Concepts?
I sure hope your right, because it's perfect the way it is.

Boy they sure missed on the charger though. I like the concept better, but my Wife
likes the current one.

Are you saying that Camaro (I believe it was called a 'California Camaro') is immensely different from what was really produced?

Because it looks extremely close to the production version. Only some minor, for the most part, cosmetic changes.

(Aside from the 2006 Camaro Concept, that California Camaro and the Pontiac Banshee are the best looking concepts ever to come from GM IMO.)
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:11 AM   #60
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I am convinced that the production car will look alot different, even the nose will change. Take for instance the Charger Concept

and look what we got.
I'm going to go against what most people may believe and admit I find the production Charger MUCH better looking than the concept.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:09 AM   #61
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Its a toss up, but as people keep saying. Keep the faith. Look at the worst case scenario, it goes belly up and is nothing like the concept. You just don't buy a camaro.

Personally I don't think it will change much, although I am going to have to find a fabricator to replicate the concepts mirrors for mine...
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:08 PM   #62
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Diar if you find someone to make those mirrors for ya... let me know who. I must have those mirrors as well. As for the rims and tires... I hope they make the rims smaller. I have had 18's 19's and 20's all on a 2002 Celica and I have to admit that the 18's where the smoothest. The 19's and 20's you could feel every single pebble you ran over. So anything around 18's for rims would be nice IMO.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:24 PM   #63
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They already said that it would be virtually unchanged from the concept. A little narrower and taller. Smaller wheels. Other than that, I thought the design is pretty much what you see here. The concept Charger didn't directly lead into the production one, it was years old before the Benz-derived LX cars appeared. I like the rear end on the concept mustang better than the production version though. If my memory serves me correctly I remember reading that hideway lights a la RS should be seen at SEMA a little while after launch, but since I cant back that up with a source it's just hearsay right now.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:07 AM   #64
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They already said that it would be virtually unchanged from the concept. A little narrower and taller. Smaller wheels. Other than that, I thought the design is pretty much what you see here. The concept Charger didn't directly lead into the production one, it was years old before the Benz-derived LX cars appeared. I like the rear end on the concept mustang better than the production version though. If my memory serves me correctly I remember reading that hideway lights a la RS should be seen at SEMA a little while after launch, but since I cant back that up with a source it's just hearsay right now.
No, I remember hearing that too...that the Camaro would have hideaways at Sema. I don't recall who said it either, but it was said.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:41 AM   #65
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It was lutz I believe in one of the videos. He said the lights wouldn't change much if at all. He also said he was sure hideways would be at SEMA.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:59 PM   #66
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Would be nice if the RS package is actually an RS. Stripes, badging, hideaway lights etc...
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:17 PM   #67
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Would be nice if the RS package is actually an RS. Stripes, badging, hideaway lights etc...
Badging and hideaways I can go for. No stripes please. I like the RS designation, but hate stripes. I'd prefer the RS be what it was on the 3rd Gens, Badging and GFX (I can take or leave hideaway headlights personally).
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:09 AM   #68
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I think Hideaways would harm the look of the Camaro personally. In general - hideaways are cool, but I'm not sure this car could sport them well. I feel kinda the same way about the '69's. I'm not too keen on hideaways on those cars, either....
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:10 AM   #69
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I think Hideaways would harm the look of the Camaro personally. In general - hideaways are cool, but I'm not sure this car could sport them well. I feel kinda the same way about the '69's. I'm not too keen on hideaways on those cars, either....
I've always loved the hideaways on the old cars. My mom had an old red RS/SS back in the day. I was hoping they'd come out with hideaways, but now that they did I think that they would harm the looks of the car. These headlights look very well done as they are. Modern and retro at the same time. An original, fresh design but with enough heritage so that you won't mistake it for anything else.
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You mean you don't like this?
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:06 AM   #72
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I like the R/S Hideaways as shown above w/out the LEDs. Very

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Exactly, I don't see the looks of the car going downhill at all when I look at what could be. The hideaways are represented VERY well. I'd pick them up quickly if offered.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:02 PM   #74
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You mean you don't like this?

Yeah, alright...I take back what I said...that does kinda look cool
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:40 AM   #75
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It grows on you.

I was disappointed with the car at first, but the more I looked at it, the more I liked it. Now I love it, inside and out, I even like the orange convertible. I would like to see air induction.
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