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Old 01-17-2011, 09:47 AM   #919
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We ended up with Yokohama Prada XSpecs. Handles great and has some awesome cold weather traction. Sorry for the late response.
Did you stay with the same sizes? They look pretty good. What others did you look at? I am just now starting to look.

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Old 01-17-2011, 10:26 AM   #920
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Did you stay with the same sizes? They look pretty good. What others did you look at? I am just now starting to look.

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Stayed with stock sizes. Didn't want to spend a ton on tires. The Yokos are on the affordable side. I finally got to drive her yesterday and actually like the feel of the Yokos more than the Pirellis. Granted it's freezing outside and has been since we got it so that may have something to do with the poor handling of the Pirellis. I dunno. They may go back on in the spring, but I like the yokos for all season.
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:56 PM   #921
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Stayed with stock sizes. Didn't want to spend a ton on tires. The Yokos are on the affordable side. I finally got to drive her yesterday and actually like the feel of the Yokos more than the Pirellis. Granted it's freezing outside and has been since we got it so that may have something to do with the poor handling of the Pirellis. I dunno. They may go back on in the spring, but I like the yokos for all season.
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Old 01-17-2011, 03:26 PM   #922
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TRANSMISSION ISSUE

Hi folks of 11/15... just to keep you in the loop, if you have a manual transmission in your SS you may want to follow my thread "Birth of Orange Krate". Seems my boy has come with a factory defect in the transmission. I have been reading the threads on transmissions and from day one I have been having a heck of a problem with 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd shifts. At first I thought it was a stiff, new trans or me. Now that I have driven the car for 30 days and put on 1800 miles I know it is neither.

Symptoms: Occasional grind (I try to avoid this!) going into second. First to second shift is difficult and it feels like it is hitting a stop point and you have to pull the shifter towards you and then pull back into second. Second to third shift is essentially same as first to second. As you push the shifter into neutral and then head towards third it hits what feels like a stop and then you have to push the shifter to the right a little more and then up. (For lack of a better term, it feels like a double gate).

I have been reading one particular thread that says that this may be headed for a TSB and that Tremec already has a fix which includes a new synchro and synchro retainer. This is UNVERIFIED but is worth the mention. My dealer is now aware of this issue and is working on research for me before we dig into the transmission or whatever is required.

It is EXTREMELY frustrating when you set your expectation so high for a vehicle, you read for years about the development of this car, you get one after so long and then it has a hiccup like this. I know it will get better with time but it sure makes me question why I didn't buy an automatic...but then that could be screwy too. SO... Orange Krate remains PARKED until I can get a handle on what is going on so that I don't do any damage.

PS... I am still smelling burning oil and on occasion some electrical burning smell! I have gotten under the car and looked thoroughly and see NO leaks, no obvious burned wires, everything works and I havent seen any warning codes or signs. Maybe INFERNO Orange is truly a literal name for the car. I am also wondering if there is some sort of leak at the snout of trans and thus causing some of these issues?? Input appreciated.

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Old 01-17-2011, 04:39 PM   #923
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Clue us in, where have u been reading about this!
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Old 01-17-2011, 06:11 PM   #924
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Clue us in, where have u been reading about this!
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115613

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123216

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96243

I have also seen a couple of other mentions in other threads in passing discussion about choosing an aftermarket shifter (because the owner thought the shifter was bad!!!) IT IS A SYNCHRO/SYNCHRO RETAINER ISSUE from what I can tell thus far...IMHO.
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Old 01-17-2011, 09:18 PM   #925
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i dont have as nearly as many miles as you (410) but when i pull into the garage i smell all kinds of stuff like a burning plastic. When i changed oil i did not see any leaks of any kind. Also have lots of crackling and popping as car is cooling down but i assume it will all go away once the car gets older. I too want a 6 spd car, but after reading about all the issues people seemed to have with there clutch i opted for the auto, which i love just as well. Krate hang in there it seems as you have yourself a good dealer to work with.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:22 PM   #926
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i dont have as nearly as many miles as you (410) but when i pull into the garage i smell all kinds of stuff like a burning plastic. When i changed oil i did not see any leaks of any kind. Also have lots of crackling and popping as car is cooling down but i assume it will all go away once the car gets older. I too want a 6 spd car, but after reading about all the issues people seemed to have with there clutch i opted for the auto, which i love just as well. Krate hang in there it seems as you have yourself a good dealer to work with.

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Thanks for the support. It helps! I am going to do an oil assay from the trans and differential and see what pans out there just for SH$%S and GIGGLES! It is one thing to find minute particles it is another thing to find pieces of synchro and steel! The posts put up by "Rick@RKT56" was most enlightening because he works on these transmissions at a dealer and at his own place of business. I also got a printout of the parts replacement list for a broken Tremec, as rebuilt by one dealer for "Denster". Denster had the same complaints as I do.
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Old 01-17-2011, 11:50 PM   #927
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O-Krate: I have felt a slight bump (for lack of a better word) going from first to second and on occasion, an ever so slight quasi-grind from second to third, mostly when the trans was cold. It hasn't been enough to worry me but it was enough to get me thinking...I hope we don't have trans problems. I hate dealing with dealer service.

Mine also had/has the burning oil smell. It appears to be going away. I have 1500 miles on her. It only occured when stopped or when I pulled her in the garage. Again, seems to be going away. Time will tell.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:01 AM   #928
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O-Krate: I have felt a slight bump (for lack of a better word) going from first to second and on occasion, an ever so slight quasi-grind from second to third, mostly when the trans was cold. It hasn't been enough to worry me but it was enough to get me thinking...I hope we don't have trans problems. I hate dealing with dealer service.

Mine also had/has the burning oil smell. It appears to be going away. I have 1500 miles on her. It only occured when stopped or when I pulled her in the garage. Again, seems to be going away. Time will tell.
Good news is we are all in good company. Secondly if you get that phone call from GM Engineers make sure you let them know! I didnt understate or overstate! Let them know exactly what you feel and think. I have my dealer thinking too! Since mine is such a small dealer they may not have the expertise to deal with this but I won't discount them yet as they have been here 80+ years.
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:14 AM   #929
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o-krate... im sorry to hear you are having this same problem also. mine also has the notorious 1-2 grind! the first time it happened i thought it was me. the second time i knew it wasnt me and knew i had a junk trans. i drove pretty easy the first couple hundred miles then desided it was time to have a little fun. well sadly enough mine dont matter if the trans is hot cold whatever. it will grind going into second. i have the engine apart right now doing cam and head swap. with car in neutral i can spin motor over by hand and hear a rattle in the transmission. if i put car in any gear and puch clutch in stopping anything in trans from spinning the noise goes away. it is a very strange noise. i am going to take video of the noice for proof that the engine work didnt cause the trans issues so that they cant try to feed me a line of crap that the engine mods cause the trans to go bad....
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I also have felt something like this but I thought it was me. I just learned to drive a manual transmission so I was really hoping it was just me screwing up. I have definately felt a little grind going from 1st to 2nd, and again from 2nd to 3rd. I havent noticed any certain conditions when it occurs. It is in storage for the winter so I guess Ill have to bring it in late this spring to see what the dealers say... Does anyone use that stupid 1-4 shift? I saw there was a thing to get rid of that. Does that void any warranties?
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Old 01-18-2011, 12:37 AM   #931
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o-krate... im sorry to hear you are having this same problem also. mine also has the notorious 1-2 grind! the first time it happened i thought it was me. the second time i knew it wasnt me and knew i had a junk trans. i drove pretty easy the first couple hundred miles then desided it was time to have a little fun. well sadly enough mine dont matter if the trans is hot cold whatever. it will grind going into second. i have the engine apart right now doing cam and head swap. with car in neutral i can spin motor over by hand and hear a rattle in the transmission. if i put car in any gear and puch clutch in stopping anything in trans from spinning the noise goes away. it is a very strange noise. i am going to take video of the noice for proof that the engine work didnt cause the trans issues so that they cant try to feed me a line of crap that the engine mods cause the trans to go bad....
What I have found out thus far in a nutshell...

MANY of the Tremec owners have lodged complaints. Dealers have not been forthcoming in dealing with it in many cases. One dealer in Maryland where "Rick@RKT56" works as a transmission specialist, has successfully repaired this version of the Tremec. Although he hasn't listed all the parts, he did confirm that another invoice posted by another Camaro owner did have MOST of the parts right accept the invoice didnt show the important inclusion of several parts that are specifically input shaft shims. The noise you hear is the noise I hear and it definately sounds like input shaft play and perhaps a vibration with a bearing due to play. Just my guess based on other transmissions I have looked at (I am no expert). From what I could tell from the invoice it looked like they replaced about 9 different pieces sans the shims plus the other disposable shop supplies to put the thing back together. If anyone wants a copy of the invoice please PM and I will email it to your personal email address. Again this is no guarantee that this will be the fix for your particular trans issues but the pattern I am reading and seeing is just too large to ignore. DOCUMENT it early with the dealer so your warranty is covered. In California we do have a lemon law. But I don't want lemonade! I want my Orange Krate to be RIGHT! The folks at Oshawa don't want lemons either.
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I also have felt something like this but I thought it was me. I just learned to drive a manual transmission so I was really hoping it was just me screwing up. I have definately felt a little grind going from 1st to 2nd, and again from 2nd to 3rd. I havent noticed any certain conditions when it occurs. It is in storage for the winter so I guess Ill have to bring it in late this spring to see what the dealers say... Does anyone use that stupid 1-4 shift? I saw there was a thing to get rid of that. Does that void any warranties?
The fact is...many dealers will use any excuse to void a warranty based on mods and after market bolt ons. You SHOULD NOT have to buy any after market equipment to make the car RIGHT! We should be able to drive in and drive out of the dealer with a brand new car that is fully functioning, mechanically correct, that shifts smoothly and correctly without DAMAGING it by normal driving habits. I have heard people using this device but that will not cure nor fix the underlying problem. Because all you are doing is electrically eliminating one issue but the true issue is MECHANICAL. I would bet a months wages that this issue will evolve into a TSB or perhaps even a recall. Keep in mind that Chevrolet is focusing on the Volt and Convertible Camaro and they do not want any bad press before this vehicle comes out! It would be devastating to sales. Ditto for any upcoming Z28 announcement or whatever they choose to call it. As I said before...if it isn't right in the SS it sure as heck wont be right in the Z28 or convertible. With TREMEC transmissions being built and placed in Fords and Chryslers you can bet TREMEC has a vested interest to get a fix out ASAP! Maybe I am just too hopeful and optimistic!?!?
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Old 01-18-2011, 09:25 AM   #933
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I hope everyone gets this trany problem fixed. I hope the A6's do not have any problems.

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Old 01-18-2011, 05:03 PM   #934
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Elvira still has a burning oil smell from time to time and she's got about 2600 miles on her already. So far so fabulous. I think the power steering pump is makin some noise, but Blondie drives her like she stole her all the time.
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I guess I can say luckily for me, it's not a problem that's bad enough for me to have some knucklehead "mechanic" at the dealer to start poking around my car. In fact, most would never notice it. In my case, I will just enjoy the ride and see what happens. I can say this though, if this car gives me problems, it may be my last GM product. I have a 2007, $50K Duramax truck that took me two years to get the "common problems" fixed because GM is either too stupid or just too cheap to build a solid product. Don't get me wrong, I've been driving GM's all my life and had some that ran 100K with nothing more than oil changes. Let's just hope this potential trans issue is an easy fix...
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