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Old 07-04-2007, 12:21 AM   #1
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*Spoilers*Transformers Discussion Thread*Spoilers*

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Okay, I gotta know what people didn't like(or really liked) about the movie.

The only thing that comes to mind for me were the product placement bots...Mountain DewBot, XBoxBot, and EscaladeBot...I guess you could count NokiaBot, but his tiny Gatling gun was hilarious...
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Okay, I gotta know what people didn't like(or really liked) about the movie.

The only thing that comes to mind for me were the product placement bots...Mountain DewBot, XBoxBot, and EscaladeBot...I guess you could count NokiaBot, but his tiny Gatling gun was hilarious...
Actually, those little guys didn't bother me at all. I thought they were funny as hell....little gatling guns... That was cool in the little glass booth. I do wonder though, those guys weren't taken care of. The only Decepticon left was Starscream, right?..the one who turns into a jet?

Ok...the only part I didn't like was when Jazz was torn in two. Yeah...some of the good guys gotta go when there is a war. But, like everyone else, I would have liked to have had him repaired or something.

Other than that, I loved everything. I loved the fact that BB communicated w/ his stereo...and it was perfect what he did w/ the girl in the Camaro. My wife was laughing her butt off as was I and the entire rest of the theater. Really, I could talk about this for hours. I loved this movie...very, very, well done.
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For People Who Saw Transformers (spoiler warning)

I just got back from the movie. I was expecting it to be awesome movie and i couldn't wait to see it. But I wasn't expecyting it to be the BEST MOVIE I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME, NO EVER .

I'm not putting any spoilers in this post but if you dont want to know anything bout this this movie dont read anymore. Although I will say you see the camaro alot

So ppl what did you all think. good , bad , any letdowns cuz i didnt have any except i wont see that car on the streets for 2 years.

Sorry if anyone has a problem with this thread, but I think I gave enough warning, and I wanted to get some opinions from my camaro brothers and sisters
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Ya Tag, I thought the soda machine bot, and the nokia bot ect. were funny to. What did happen to the 360bot and soda machinebot and the Escalade . Bumblebee hookin the two up was funny. The movie had me laughin a lot, and if I wasnt laughin i was on the edge of my seat.

I liked how BB kicked them out of the car when she made the comment about how it was a ragedy old camaro . I liked how you saw BB alot more then the others (kinda based around him), and how even when half of him was missing he still kicked ass. And who didnt see him kicking the Stangs ass comin. Come on the mustang couldnt even catch up to him when they were drivin, then when they turned into robots, he handled him in a minute.

Alright i gotta get off this post cause I would also talk bout it for hours and hours.
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the plot was ruined when the script was written...lol not much to it. and for now Tag, starscream is the last decepticon. they left it open like that to allow for sequels (they are on the way) possibility of Megs returning as Galvatron???
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Letdowns:

Bumblebee's voice was a big letdown. Also, Starscream looked and acted like a badass. Not the bozo'ish attitude he has with snide/sarcastic personality like G1. Also Megatron was too smart for his G1 personality also.

Devastator(Brawl) should have been the constructicons, but apparantly they're supposed to have constructicons and dinobot cameos in the second movie if not a full fledged part.

Optimus Prime and the rest of the autobots were fricken stupid compared to G1 personalities.

Jazz dies. "What's up bitch?"

Bumblebee talks at the end but not when he first was charged by the allspark? WTF?

Good Things:

Both Starscream and Megatron sounded BAD ASS with their new deeper voices.

The Camaro was amazing.
The girl was hot also.
Great storyline, Tons of comedy which was a great bonus.
BIG BOOMS! (Michael Bay at his finest)
You finally learn that Sector 7 is SUPPOSED to be the good guys, but they're just morons.
Simmons gets pissed on by Bumblebee.

I might add more later, but those are just off the top. I'm watching it again tomorrow.
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Best 2 hour commercial of GM cars I have ever seen.

No offense but seriously.

Good action and CGI though.
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I meant they were funny, especially the nokia bot...but I mean, they should have taken care of them, instead of showing it was just an excuse to do a bit of product placement...

As for the voices, they sounded awesome...

Optimus: Peter Cullen returned to do Optimus(he was the original voice)
Megatron: Hugo Weaving...I mean, that guy is awesome in his own right.
Jazz: Anyone remember eddie from family matters? yeah, it was him
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I didn't like the amount of advertising, it was painfully obvious to the point where it was almost hard to enjoy the movie...almost. Good movie over al though.
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Letdowns:

Bumblebee's voice was a big letdown. Also, Starscream looked and acted like a badass. Not the bozo'ish attitude he has with snide/sarcastic personality like G1. Also Megatron was too smart for his G1 personality also.

Devastator(Brawl) should have been the constructicons, but apparantly they're supposed to have constructicons and dinobot cameos in the second movie if not a full fledged part.

Optimus Prime and the rest of the autobots were fricken stupid compared to G1 personalities.

Jazz dies. "What's up bitch?"

Bumblebee talks at the end but not when he first was charged by the allspark? WTF?

Good Things:

Both Starscream and Megatron sounded BAD ASS with their new deeper voices.

The Camaro was amazing.
The girl was hot also.
Great storyline, Tons of comedy which was a great bonus.
BIG BOOMS! (Michael Bay at his finest)
You finally learn that Sector 7 is SUPPOSED to be the good guys, but they're just morons.
Simmons gets pissed on by Bumblebee.

I might add more later, but those are just off the top. I'm watching it again tomorrow.
what did you expect for BB's voice? a teenager?

Starscream is a wimp. when did he actually fight with an autobot? yeah, he shot a few rockets, but all he really did was shoot down the planes

Devastator should have been Brawl so that we could have the constructicons in TF2

How were they stupid? i wasn't keen on some of the dialog, made prime sound whiny at times, and Ironhide like too much of a reckless redneck, while Jazz's dialog during their first transformation was retarded.

and Jazz is a wimp. nuff said.


bumblebee can talk now... its better than little electronic noises, tho him using the radio to communicate was funny


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No offense but seriously.

Good action and CGI though.

dont forget ebay, mtn dew, and xbox...lol and it was 2.5 hrs.
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I didn't like the amount of advertising, it was painfully obvious to the point where it was almost hard to enjoy the movie...almost. Good movie over al though.
thats why bay could say that his budget was only $150 mil, he was getting "extra" money from all the sponsers as long as they got promo time
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The best example of the autobots being "stupid" is the scene outside sam's house. When they're looking for the glasses. In the old cartoons, they never would have treaded on the lawn, they'd stay out in the streets in their vehicle forms. The way it was set up was that the autobots were so silent while moving their massive gears and cogs that the dad couldn't hear them when the power went out? Come on now...
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thats why bay could say that his budget was only $150 mil, he was getting "extra" money from all the sponsers as long as they got promo time
Good for bay, bad for me. Now people might think that lame ass Pontiac roadster is actually good lol. I hate that crappy car. The Camaro had huge rims in the movie, better be on the street version. The entire movie was crazy jam packed with action.
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The best example of the autobots being "stupid" is the scene outside sam's house. When they're looking for the glasses. In the old cartoons, they never would have treaded on the lawn, they'd stay out in the streets in their vehicle forms. The way it was set up was that the autobots were so silent while moving their massive gears and cogs that the dad couldn't hear them when the power went out? Come on now...
in the old cartoons they werent in a desperate search for the cube when they know the decepticons are so close to it. granted they were after energon, but it was an abundant resource in the old cartoons, not the source of transformer life.

imagine if you had a heart virus and only a few hours to live, one person had the cure, but you have to find the directions to where the guy lives in someone elses house, would you look thru everything neatly? or tear thru it. granted they aren't looking at sams house, but they want him to hurry and be right there when he's ready to go.
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Good for bay, bad for me. Now people might think that lame ass Pontiac roadster is actually good lol. I hate that crappy car. The Camaro had huge rims in the movie, better be on the street version. The entire movie was crazy jam packed with action.
the BB camaro has 21"s up front and 22"s in the back if I remember right. the production model will be closer to 18's and 19's respectively, maybe 20's and 21's. I just hope my maro has brakes...(bb doesnt)
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Optimus isn't one to be all up in his face though. The way Ironhide was, I can see. Jazz, yeah, BB, maybe. Optimus, not a chance in hell. He's too patient, it's his downfall. That is why Megatron used to be able to take advantage of him. Remember the episode where he used all the decepticon power chips to beat Optimus in a 1v1 duel?
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The best example of the autobots being "stupid" is the scene outside sam's house. When they're looking for the glasses. In the old cartoons, they never would have treaded on the lawn, they'd stay out in the streets in their vehicle forms. The way it was set up was that the autobots were so silent while moving their massive gears and cogs that the dad couldn't hear them when the power went out? Come on now...
Dude that part was funny man. It showed them like kids hiding from theit parents, even tho they're 3 story robots that could crush them ppl.
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How bout we call it Sam's happy time. HAHAHA i think thats the funniest line in the movie
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I loved how the mom's eyes lit up when she saw that Mikaela was in the room instead of having "Happy time" then again, my eyes would light up if I saw megan fox in my room too! lol
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Loved the "happy time" quote too. That part was great...great comedy throughout the movie. And, it was like someone else had said, on the parts I wasn't laughing, I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the next cool thing to happen.

No, I don't think the autobots were stupid. If you were just about to find that map for directions on where to get the cure for your heart condition, you wouldn't care about a lawn or freaking flowers....c'mon. Yeah...powers out and Dad should have heard all the autobots moving. Didn't happen...ok.

As far as the advertising, I thought it made the movie more real. When you start talking ebay on the big screen, you start hitting on a subject that a great majority of America can associate with. All the little things, which really didn't bother me, made it more on a level for the viewer. They could have made up some other online account called mysell or something, but they used ebay. Mysell wouldn't have done anything to make the movie more realistic. Mountain soda pop wouldn't have done anyting either. But, Mountaindew is something people know. Good for them on using these things. It didn't bother me and made it more real. Oh, and if it helps them to produce the movie to plug these things, so be it. Just incorporate it properly and you could do it all day....after all, I want to see more Transformers, right!?!
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I just returned from seeing the movie.

I thought it was very entertaining. And I enjoyed seeing all the GM vehicles. 'Bumblebee' was my favorite......"who knew"?!

Funny thing. I stopped by 'Toys R Us' afterwards to see if they had any new 'Bumblebee' "stuff", and there were 3 other guys my age, who were buying 'Transformers' toys.
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Saw it this morning. Enjoyed it a lot. CGI was flawless. Cars were gorgeous (especially the Camaro).

The only things I'd have done different were-

Less Humor. Transformers weren't a humorous line. (Though I admit I'm NOT a fan of a lot of humor in movies in general.)

Less concentration on the humans. Don't totally write them off, they keep it 'grounded' and 'real'. But not quite so much.

I'm not quite so sure what I thought of Jazz, Ratchet and Ironhide's personalities. I definitely saw some of the original Jazz in his personality, but it was a bit too 'ghetto' in this new incarnation. Ironhide was originally brash, but wouldn't have suggested killing the parents. That was definitely 'off'.

I was hoping to see Bumblebee and Barricade fight after Bumblebee reconfigures into the 5th Gen, personally. To be honest, I liked the original plot that floated around where Bumblebee got trashed by Barricade and THAT was the reason he reconfigured into a more powerful 5th Gen. But it certainly wasn't all that bad seeing a 2nd Gen beat up a new Mustang either. LOL

Those were my only real 'complaints' if they even count as such.

So, with Megatron apparently destroyed who do they go with for a sequel? They can either find a way that Megatron survived, or go with Galvatron or even Shockwave. Shockwave was as much a leader as Megatron/Galvatron if you read the comics. In the TV show he was visciously loyal to Megatron. In the comics he was everything Starscream wished he could be and was FAR from loyal to Megatron. Shockwave was cold, calculating and showed almost no emotion.

There was a lot of laughing during the movie, which as much as I personally don't care for humor, was a good thing that showed people were enjoying it.

I did hear one person seated behind me comment that the new Camaro was really nice looking.
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Yeah have to agree overall great movie. visually beautiful, good action, when there wasnt any action it was funny. Not to mention all of the camaro shots.
Come on mindz your being way too critical on a movie thats based on a saturday morning cartoon. when your watching something like transformers its easy to see the parts of the storyline that arent correct from the comic/cartoon. you've got to appreciate a movie that has that much CG work in it(and you know that it had to cost a gwop) and it looking that good. Not to mention maintaining enough from the original storyline to keep the die hard Transformer fans happy. so I say its a great movie, maby the second best ever based off of a comic.
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Only two scenes bothered me in the movie. First, when Ms. Fox (GERRRRRRRR) says there’s a “high rise double pumper carburetor” (WTF, must be a new one piece carburetor that eliminates the manifold that I don’t know about) and the shot is clearly a fuel injection unit and don’t forget about the distributor cap being loose as she screws it back on… Finally, JAZZ dieing

I can not wait for any and all sequels and I definitely will own this on DVD...
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