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Old 01-06-2009, 11:35 PM   #1
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royal purple tranny fluid?

can some one please explain to me why this fluid is better then others?
and where to get it?
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:42 AM   #2
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Lubricates better.

This creates less internal resistance and thus less drivetrain loss.

It also creates less metal shavings in the fluid/oil, keeping it clean for longer.
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:47 AM   #3
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and if i put it in wont it void warrenty?
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:59 AM   #4
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It should by no means void your warranty. Although I wouldn't (and neither would royal purple) suggest putting it in till after about 5,000-10,000 miles on the odo.
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Y is that?
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:59 AM   #6
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The engine just breaks in better that way. You can technically do it at the first scheduled oil change, but whats the harm in waiting longer?
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Royal Purple is not an Approved product for use on GM cars, If I were you I would use one of the Synthetic products approved by GM, If you were to have a failure they would be able to deny your warranty claim based on using unapproved fluids (both Oil and Transmission are not approved). GM has a list of approved Synthetics availible, I have pulled it up before but right now I can't access it from work.
GM has been using more synthetics in their transmissions and I would make sure before I changed it that the Camaro has synthetic already in it first.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:36 AM   #8
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The engine just breaks in better that way. You can technically do it at the first scheduled oil change, but whats the harm in waiting longer?
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who's talking about the engine?
he's talking about trans fluid.


one thing to keep in mind is that GM has spent a lot of R&D on this new trans that we have and have even stated that there is no fluid change interval for the auto unless you are seriously thrashing on it daily.

i'd leave the stock trans fluid in there. but i'll be changing the motor oil to RP.
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Old 01-08-2009, 06:52 PM   #9
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horsepower on powerblock changed out the engine oil, tranny fluid, and rear diff fluid all for royal purple on an LS1 camaro. they put it on a dyno and picked up 7hp at the wheels.
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Royal Purple is not an Approved product for use on GM cars, If I were you I would use one of the Synthetic products approved by GM, If you were to have a failure they would be able to deny your warranty claim based on using unapproved fluids (both Oil and Transmission are not approved). GM has a list of approved Synthetics availible, I have pulled it up before but right now I can't access it from work.
GM has been using more synthetics in their transmissions and I would make sure before I changed it that the Camaro has synthetic already in it first.
Not "approved" for use in GM cars...shouldn't you mean Not "Endorsed" by GM..If it is SAE certified and passes all the Govt. required testing then how can the say they may void a warranty because of the name on the oil can I dunno I just don't get it. From everything I have read about Royal Purple on various forums and articles it is highly recommended. I was planning on using it but it seems like alot of guys on here are Mobil 1 fans...I guess I may stick with that..I dunno
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im getting a manual tranny not a auto
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:04 PM   #12
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im getting a manual tranny not a auto
I don't know if this applies, but I have a TKO 5 speed manual in one of my cars and it uses GM auto synthetic for lube so maybe the six speed will also?
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The reason it was stated not GM approved is because its not on GM's very short list of oils that they have tested. Its not that its not as good as the ones they list, just that it was not submitted for testing. Will they not honor warranty work if you use it....time will tell. Personally I love the Royal Purple products. I have seen first hand what they can do, but if i think they may be reason for causing problems then I wont use them. Ill just use the GM approved brands.
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im getting a manual tranny not a auto
and? do you not run gear oil in your transmission?

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The reason it was stated not GM approved is because its not on GM's very short list of oils that they have tested. Its not that its not as good as the ones they list, just that it was not submitted for testing. Will they not honor warranty work if you use it....time will tell. Personally I love the Royal Purple products. I have seen first hand what they can do, but if i think they may be reason for causing problems then I wont use them. Ill just use the GM approved brands.
werd. its not sponsored by GM, they put mobil 1 in nearly everything from the factory. but they also have a contract with mobil1 as well.
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Just looked on the Royal Purple site and if you get the auto they have no recommneded tranny fluid for it as of yet. They offer the syncromax for the manuals. There ya go if you are still interested in Royal Purple.
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[QUOTE=CamaroSpike23;239684]and? do you not run gear oil in your transmission?



didnt ask for smart remarks buddy just asking questions bro
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:00 PM   #17
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Forget Royal Purple. Amsoil has been proven to be a much better product and you can get it for less. Especially if you are on the Preferred Customer program. RP is better than most products out there, but I have proven facts in comparison testing as to Amsoil being much better. I of course sell it, but PLEASE feel free to look into it on your own. My site is on the web at www.greatoil4less.com I have not used this before as a forum to sell Amsoil but you really need to look into the differences before you buy anything to put in your new car. The first thing I plan on doing is driving a thousand miles and replace all lubes, and filters with Amsoil products. Every lube is top of the line and the filtration beats anyone out there. PLease do not put a K&N air filter on your cars. Just open a box and look at one at most stores. Hold it up to the light. See all those specks of light? Those are called HOLES. A hole does not filter anything. It acts like a venturi and sucks in all the dirt. Just ask the off road people or dirt bike riders or diesel owners. I assume I will get a lot of hassles on this mail, but whatever. Look into it and decide for yourselves. Mike Barber
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The remarks over warranty are as always ridiculous. As long as any fluid meets the spec it is ok to use. No problems. If at any time anyone has a problem all you need do is take a sample and do an oil analyisis. Cost is about $20 for any fluid and it will give you over a dozen test results. Just like the factorys and truckers do to see if the fluids are still good or if the machine is starting to wear out. Many dealerships selling anything always want you to buy their "approved" products or their own brand. Again you can run anything as long as it meets the spec. You do not need GM fluid or Mobile 1 to maintain warranty. If any manufacturer says you must use their fluid to maintain a warranty they MUST supply it FREE. Thats a federal law. Magnusson Moss Federal warranty act.
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One person writes that it may have synthetic in it already. There are vast differences in synthetics. They are made of differing formulas from each manufacturer. Look over test results if you can find any comparisons. There is a difference in protection, performance and longevity of the fluid. Cost is usually secondary but you will find Amsoil the most cost effective out there and always the best. I have numerous Corvette owners using it and almost all get about 2 to 3 more MPG than ANYTHING else they ever used and would never go back.
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and? do you not run gear oil in your transmission?


didnt ask for smart remarks buddy just asking questions bro
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One person writes that it may have synthetic in it already. There are vast differences in synthetics. They are made of differing formulas from each manufacturer. Look over test results if you can find any comparisons. There is a difference in protection, performance and longevity of the fluid. Cost is usually secondary but you will find Amsoil the most cost effective out there and always the best. I have numerous Corvette owners using it and almost all get about 2 to 3 more MPG than ANYTHING else they ever used and would never go back.
Spoken like a true Amsoil salesman! ..now lets hear from the Royal Purple salesman
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Spoken like a true Amsoil salesman! ..now lets hear from the Royal Purple salesman
lol....

im not a salesman, but I am a user. and I recommend RP for nearly everything. Amsoil is good, but I have my own reasons for not using them.
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horsepower on powerblock changed out the engine oil, tranny fluid, and rear diff fluid all for royal purple on an LS1 camaro. they put it on a dyno and picked up 7hp at the wheels.
Maybe so, but those fluids were most likely a little bit thinner than their GM engineered counterparts.

I am not a mechanical engineer, but I would tend to believe that a fluid that is thicker might provide more shock absorption between the gear teeth in the tranny and between metal contact points in the engine.

Did they analyze the oils to see what the viscosity difference was?

I'll leave that extra 7HP on the table and have my car last to 200K miles.

EDIT: I KNOW that synthetics offer much better lubrication and higher temps and at longer oil/fluid change intervals, but what I am making a point about is: 1)thinner fluids(than designed for) will almost always make more HP because of less resistance 2) don't ALWAYS believe what you see/read!
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Actually for now stick with Dexron VI for that 6 speed TH (6L80). I don't think it would hurt but it has all the Dexron certs except for Dex6.
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the new 6-speed auto will be coming with a synth fluid that will not have a time change interval depending on how hard you thrash on it.
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