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Old 11-06-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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TT on 3.6L @ Sema

Twin Turbo kit installed on a LLT 3.6L. I talked with the guy at the both where this car was displayed and he didn't know any information about the twin turbos. All he could tell me was it was fabricated and built by Legacy Innovations. The car was displayed in there both to show off their gauges that where installed. He also said that Legacy Innovations could probably build another kit if I was interested, but had no information on how to get in contact with them.
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:30 PM   #2
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Nice! Did they do a dyno or provide 1/4 mile times?
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Old 11-06-2010, 04:58 PM   #3
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that's weird, i think i talked to the same guy, and he pointed out the two people that actually built the system and i went over and talked to them. lol

No dyno or 1/4 mile times yet. It was practically just built and sent to sema. They plan on doing all of that within the next few weeks he said. Basically everything was fabricated and a bunch of stuff had to be moved around. The person that owns the car wanted to show off the twin turbo's up front, the guy that built it said it probably wouldn't have been the way he would have gone about doing it, but that's what the owner wanted.

He said he was hoping to see about 500hp to the wheel, if i remember correctly. There is not tune, basically it's a piggy back system. He didn't go to much into detail about that. He said he'd build another one if someone wanted, but it's not really practical. 18-20k dollars to build. lol They are based out of Philly i believe.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:07 PM   #4
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that's weird, i think i talked to the same guy, and he pointed out the two people that actually built the system and i went over and talked to them. lol

No dyno or 1/4 mile times yet. It was practically just built and sent to sema. They plan on doing all of that within the next few weeks he said. Basically everything was fabricated and a bunch of stuff had to be moved around. The person that owns the car wanted to show off the twin turbo's up front, the guy that built it said it probably wouldn't have been the way he would have gone about doing it, but that's what the owner wanted.

He said he was hoping to see about 500hp to the wheel, if i remember correctly. There is not tune, basically it's a piggy back system. He didn't go to much into detail about that. He said he'd build another one if someone wanted, but it's not really practical. 18-20k dollars to build. lol They are based out of Philly i believe.
Wow!

I thought about the piggyback route but couldn't find enough info to know if it would work. Seems our issue is fuel supply, so the piggyback won't solve that. Unless they found something the rest of us don't know about, I don't see how they can get 500rwhp with the stock fueling system. I hope we hear more and they found a way though!

$18-20K won't cut it though.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:17 PM   #5
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that's weird, i think i talked to the same guy, and he pointed out the two people that actually built the system and i went over and talked to them. lol

No dyno or 1/4 mile times yet. It was practically just built and sent to sema. They plan on doing all of that within the next few weeks he said. Basically everything was fabricated and a bunch of stuff had to be moved around. The person that owns the car wanted to show off the twin turbo's up front, the guy that built it said it probably wouldn't have been the way he would have gone about doing it, but that's what the owner wanted.

He said he was hoping to see about 500hp to the wheel, if i remember correctly. There is not tune, basically it's a piggy back system. He didn't go to much into detail about that. He said he'd build another one if someone wanted, but it's not really practical. 18-20k dollars to build. lol They are based out of Philly i believe.

It couldn't have been the same guy I talked to because the guy I talked with had no information on the turbo set up and the builder was not their when I stopped by the booth.

18-20K Wow. They seems way over priced to build a twin turbo system.
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Old 11-06-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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Lol at 20k, not worth it, should have bought a better car with the money
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:18 PM   #7
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For some people it's not about the money. They just want to do it because they can
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:31 PM   #8
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yeah.......... RICH BASTARDS! hahahaha lol
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:31 PM   #9
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Yeah, let's just hope they share what they did so we can all learn from it. If they are really getting 500 rwhp (not clear on that) then they know something the rest of us don't.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:41 PM   #10
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all show no go........ again.......
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Old 11-06-2010, 10:44 PM   #11
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Yeah, let's just hope they share what they did so we can all learn from it. If they are really getting 500 rwhp (not clear on that) then they know something the rest of us don't.
I agree fully. But running a standalone instead of trying to tune and flash the existing CPU is a totally different ballpark.

And something sparked something in the back of my head. I owned a 2000 eclipse, and the only way to get around the cpu in that was an AEM EMS or other type systems, iirc. Couldn't flash the chip. One of the reasons that the aftermarket turbo kits on it wound up being so expensive.

Hopefully we won't have to worry about that.
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:14 AM   #12
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all show no go........ again.......

I bet that this is going to be the case on this Camaro. I highly doubt they will share any real info on HP gain, which is a shame if they actually paid that much for the TT. I'll put my money on this being a trailer queen!
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Old 11-07-2010, 01:54 AM   #13
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Impressive, but also not impressive for the alleged price.
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:40 PM   #14
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I was able to speak to the owner of the vehicle while at SEMA and they basically was able to "turn over" the motor and that's it. Its a stand-alone and no where near finish. And this wasn't designed to turn into a kit either. I know Mark at SCAP still hasn't figured out his Twin Turbo V-6 from last years SEMA (of course he's busy with a lot of other items). Surprised with the amount of money these guys are dropping to build custom TT that they don't just go ahead an use an LY7 or something.

Only TT running I heard of is the DSO Camaro (STS's Twin).
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:27 PM   #15
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all show no go........ again.......
I'd hate to have to take another route for that kind of power.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:15 PM   #16
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The guys doing my twin turbo talked to him and he said it would start but they haven't tried to drive it.
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:09 PM   #17
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I was able to speak to the owner of the vehicle while at SEMA and they basically was able to "turn over" the motor and that's it. Its a stand-alone and no where near finish. And this wasn't designed to turn into a kit either. I know Mark at SCAP still hasn't figured out his Twin Turbo V-6 from last years SEMA (of course he's busy with a lot of other items). Surprised with the amount of money these guys are dropping to build custom TT that they don't just go ahead an use an LY7 or something.

Only TT running I heard of is the DSO Camaro (STS's Twin).
big thing happening with the SCAP TT camaro new big fuel pump and injectors, piggie back computer tuned by RDP motorsports or trifacta tune. lots of work on the fuel system to get it to make big power. i hope to have the fuel up grades installed this weekend. more news as soon as i get it.

PS i drove the car all summer on stock tune with TT, you can fell the car want to take off. then it goes lean, then go to limp mode.
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Great news Mark. Still have to discuss the custom intake! Let me know what you find out on the fuel issues. I know me and others are trying to find solutions. I have been able to run the boost up to 7.5 psi. but has excessive blow-by so I want to fix that before I run it again. So I guess RDP was not able to work with the stock Bosch ECU. Were you at SEMA? I thought you took a pass this year, I would have looked you up.
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I was at Sema just as a spectator. i know Pete that built the twin turbo camaro, the car is sweet. i will call trifacta and see if RDP will be able to work together or we will use a piggy back. the stock fuel pump will be remover and a 400 gph will replace it with a 2 to 1 fuel pressure regulator and fuel return line will be installed. then install higher flow fuel injectors. i was told that the 3.6L V6 block can handle 650 engine hp, this was from the GM performance top dog at SEMA last year.
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Still a v6 :P
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Wow... you're right! It's still a V6... imagine that, after all that work it's still a V6... thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious!
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Old 11-20-2010, 08:43 AM   #24
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Still a v6 :P
You must be new to modding. If you had looked a little more closely you would have seen they bolted 6 more cylinders down below. This is a twin-turbo double twin 12; newest mod exclusively for the LLT Camaro

You obviousely have something against modding and V6 engines (probably Camaros to boot), so why are you wasting your time on a V6 mods thread? Go troll elsewere...
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:23 PM   #25
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The big issue I see with those twins is that they will be fighting for air since they are so close together.
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