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Old 11-07-2010, 07:53 AM   #1
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VARARAM WORKS!

As far as performance additions, I don't have much. MBRP cat back, and now a vararam intake and tune. As you can see from the Dyno graph (Mustang Dyno), the gains ARE pretty impressive. 20RWHP and 30RWTQ

My hat is off to VARARAM! Great work! Great Product! Even BETTER on-track performance through the Mid-Range RPM!!!


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This is the one I have been looking at...is this the tuned one?
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Were these gains from just the Vararam or the combination of mods + tuning?
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:23 AM   #4
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Were these gains from just the Vararam or the combination of mods + tuning?
he has the vararam intake, mbrp catback, and a tune
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:56 AM   #5
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he has the vararam intake, mbrp catback, and a tune
Yes, but I wanted to know if the 20 rwhp increase (from his baseline numbers) were from adding the Vararam intake or from the intake, catback, and tune combined.

He mentions "and now" a Vararam intake and tune. So I'm assuming the 20 rwhp is a combination of the Vararam intake and a tune. He already had the catback exhaust on the car for the baseline.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:04 PM   #6
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I'm guessing the tune helped out a lot...
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:08 PM   #7
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Yeah I might get the same #'s if I went stock intake to CAI and tune. We would like to know what does just the Vararam bring to the table now that it has been motified and no longer makes a car a bucking jerkey ride.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:53 PM   #8
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20 for intake and tune seems little low IMO...since adm scoop on C.A.I. Cai added 18...

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Old 11-07-2010, 09:39 PM   #9
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Yeah, 20hp gain sucks for an intake and tune. My car gained 15 over base with just an LMR intake. This thread makes me glad I didnt buy into all the hype.
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shouldn't a tune alone get like 20-25 rwhp?
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If you read the Vararam site info, they state 3 to 5 tenths improvement in 1/4 mile time and 3 mph. That's pretty impressive. I had a Vararam on my 2002 Vette and it was very fast. 12.2 in the quarter at 118 mph. I wish I knew good dyno numbers on improvements with Vararam alone, though.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:35 PM   #12
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shouldn't a tune alone get like 20-25 rwhp?
Not hardly. 5-7 at most. If you don't like that answer ask Jannetty. They have a no BS response policy.

They have also tested the Vararam independently. It is in line with the better CAI's on the market however it is not head and shoulders above the rest by any means.

Can't go wrong with the Haltech or ADM. Performance per $$$ nothing beats the Haltech intake. Add the ADM race scoop to it and you have the best performing intake on the market for the 5th gen.
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MBRP claims 20 hp for their catback alone. So....somebody's not telling the "whole story".
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MBRP claims 20 hp for their catback alone. So....somebody's not telling the "whole story".
That is a farce and has been proven. Cat backs on the 5th gen add nothing for power.
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:49 PM   #15
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I added Vararam to my otherwise stock 2011, no tune, with 2800 miles and it ran 12.70 @ 109. Stock, it ran 13.04. The weather was better with Vararam. Not sure what I gained with the intake.
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I added Vararam to my otherwise stock 2011, no tune, with 2800 miles and it ran 12.70 @ 109. Stock, it ran 13.04. The weather was better with Vararam. Not sure what I gained with the intake.
What months and if you have dates and times? Dragstrip name would help too. I can tell you how much diff the intake made with that info if track conditions were similar.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:28 AM   #17
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Not hardly. 5-7 at most. If you don't like that answer ask Jannetty. They have a no BS response policy.

They have also tested the Vararam independently. It is in line with the better CAI's on the market however it is not head and shoulders above the rest by any means.

Can't go wrong with the Haltech or ADM. Performance per $$$ nothing beats the Haltech intake. Add the ADM race scoop to it and you have the best performing intake on the market for the 5th gen.
Which one did they test? They tested the old one...and that old one was a pain in the ass with bucking. The new one? Perfect. But, I'm sure it's going to be different than the last intake.
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I added Vararam to my otherwise stock 2011, no tune, with 2800 miles and it ran 12.70 @ 109. Stock, it ran 13.04. The weather was better with Vararam. Not sure what I gained with the intake.
Which one did you get? Did you get the new VR?

I've really been holding my breath with the new Vararam. The last one bucked and surged like a ...well, I won't got there. But, it got to be such a pain in the ass that I took it off and put my stock box back on.

I got the new unit with new MAF sensor about 3 weeks ago. I've put just over 600 miles on the new unit and have to say I'm completely impressed. That seizure like bucking is GONE. I couldn't freaking believe it.

No, there's no tune. How does it run? FAST. No, I don't have baseline numbers of before and after. Sorry. But I'll tell you that it WORKS.

...and the radiator seems to be more "fixed" in place with this one. Yup, I give it
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Which one did they test? They tested the old one...and that old one was a pain in the ass with bucking.

I've really been holding my breath with the new Vararam. The last one bucked and surged like a ...well, I won't got there. But, it got to be such a pain in the ass that I took it off and put my stock box back on.
Ask them? I believe it was a "tune" only version. Could be wrong. Either way I personally believe it is no better than the better "traditional" CAI's on the market and they don't require dicking with the radiator.

Unless you have some dyno or track results on the same day, same conditions before and after it is just speculation...
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I got the new unit with new MAF sensor about 3 weeks ago. I've put just over 600 miles on the new unit and have to say I'm completely impressed. That seizure like bucking is GONE. I couldn't freaking believe it.

No, there's no tune. How does it run? FAST. No, I don't have baseline numbers of before and after. Sorry. But I'll tell you that it WORKS.

...and the radiator seems to be more "fixed" in place with this one. Yup, I give it
Glad to hear Tag. I just ordered my no tune Vararam. My maf was one of the good ones so I didn't have to change that out. I have heard nothing but positive feedback with their new design. I love the OTR concept.
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Tag, did you have to buy a new MAF sensor or did it come from VR?
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Tag, did you have to buy a new MAF sensor or did it come from VR?
Not sure where he got his, but Vararam is selling them at cost.
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I don't understand why we should have to buy a new MAF to get teh intake to work. Is VR offering a MAF exchange?
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It seems like a wonderful idea, but I just don't see it getting the gains they say...at least not right now..
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The only reason to replace the MAF, is if it has the single letter code as is explained on the Air Meter link on our website. These meters read "weak", and they will pull fuel trim rather than add fuel for the aditional airflow. Only about 5-8% of the cars out there have them.

It does not matter if the car is stock or modified, the meter will re-act the same.
The more air you flow, the worse it will become.
Later ,if you add a cam or complete heads/ cam package , it will be very difficult / impossible to tune for drivability if the meter is not replaced.
Some of our tuners have found the same issue with some of the later model Corvettes.
Basically if you are going to modify the vehicle and you have a "weak" meter you will have issues whatever the modification- ours or theirs.
Again - check the info on our website regarding the air meter and feel free to call our tech at 713-899-6456 with any questions !
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Yeah, 20hp gain sucks for an intake and tune. My car gained 15 over base with just an LMR intake. This thread makes me glad I didnt buy into all the hype.
I had the LMR and hated it...even when the car was surging at low RPMs with the 'pre-spike' Vararam, the WOT performance gains from the LMR to the Vararam were worth it.


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What months and if you have dates and times? Dragstrip name would help too. I can tell you how much diff the intake made with that info if track conditions were similar.
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Ask them? I believe it was a "tune" only version. Could be wrong. Either way I personally believe it is no better than the better "traditional" CAI's on the market and they don't require dicking with the radiator.
Unless you have some dyno or track results on the same day, same conditions before and after it is just speculation...
Your posts make me laugh. Your confident in your own guesses, but not someone's actual experience.

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