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Old 07-08-2007, 08:06 AM   #1
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American Muscle Car video

Every type of Muscle car is featured in this video. I usually don't post up others videos but did was done right. Several very nice Camaros and our sister car the Trans Am.

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Old 07-08-2007, 04:03 PM   #2
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That was a pretty good video.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:20 PM   #3
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Darn Nice...Correct me if I'm wrong, but #1, stock cars don't jump in the air like that...and #2 to jump like that, you would need some major unibody re-enforcement modifications, right? Or, are these cars strong enough (you just need power)
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:46 PM   #4
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True they arn't stock cars. By far. But it's showing what American muscle is and can be. It doesn't take much really.

As far as the wheelies go, yeah you don't "need" to stiffen the chassis. But you're crazy if you don't. Typically anyone who does that is going to have subframe connectors and usually a roll bar/cage.

Even so, it can easly trash parts.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:54 PM   #5
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Then I won't be trying it - not one myself for bodywork if it can be helped....

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Old 07-08-2007, 05:14 PM   #6
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Yeah, for example right underneath my passenger side rear window is a crack in the paint due to body twist.

Darn that torque stuff.....

I have subframe connectors though.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:57 PM   #7
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I have the Global West subframe connectors. I like them because they can be installed from underneath. No more welding inside the car or causing small fires when installing them.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:19 PM   #8
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Oh! So these subframe connectors can be installed, usually, without a major overhaul of the interior/body?

i thought you had to strip the car to bare metal to reinforce the frame...
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:25 PM   #9
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No you can buy them for most common cars to be built up. They are a simple as bolting them in or welding them. For the best strength, you can get the bolt in kind, and then weld them. Sitff!

It's not a hard task by any means.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:08 PM   #10
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Oh...I see now...

you'll have to excuse the noob attitude I've got toward's this stuff. I haven't been around cars long by any means (10 years isn't long in my book) - but the time I have spent is in the engine department. Past present and Future...I've never even dabbled in frame/body work...so when you say "subframe connectors", I envision under-the-frame bars that re-enforce the body... And I think to get to this "sub-frame" area, you needed to completely rip out the interior first....
You can see why I'd be thinking ".....uh....No?"
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:48 PM   #11
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You can see what the subrame connectors look like for the 4th Gen fbody here. You just weld them onto the frame under the car....or bolt them on...or both!
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I'm still amazed everytime I see/hear that viper at around 9:50. Sounds like a steam catapult of an aircraft carrier launching a Tomcat or hornet. It grabs the road and is just gone. The video was very entertaining. Lots of great footage and it's done tastefully too. I just don't like how it skips around, for example shows all the viper promo footage and then skips back to a cobra racing something and then to a corvette and doesn't show a viper for like 45 seconds after that.
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I will check my library and post up some nice Viper videos.

Someone asked for a picture of the Dakota Digital Dash. This is the only one I have but wil take some more this week.

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Old 07-10-2007, 10:46 PM   #14
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Hey, that's not half bad....I kinda like it!.

TAG, Thanks, but I can't seem to link to the page...
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:00 PM   #15
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Yeah...not working for me either. Just go to 02Fbody, click on suspension and you'll see the subframe connectors. That'll give ya an idea of what they're talking about.
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cool , oh and it's working again! lol

If you bought bolt-ons, do they offer more or less strength than weld-ons?

And, these things should cover you for about what? 600 hp; 600+/- lb/ft?
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I think the weld on would offer more support and rigidity. I am not sure, though. I couldn't answer how much hp they would handle.
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I only asked, cause you know, when are you pushing the limits on your cars frame? How would you know? I'd just as soon install the subframe connectors, as a precaution, even if it turns out I didn't need them...

BTW: I have to ask, all the times I've spoken to you, and I never thought to ask...

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SLP Cold Air Intake, K&N Air Filter, SLP Lid, SLP Smooth Bellows, SLP MAF, SLP Dual/Dual Exhaust
Have you ever dynoed, your car...if so - what's it's numbers with these mods.
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did you do the work yourself?
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Have you ever dynoed, your car...if so - what's it's numbers with these mods.
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did you do the work yourself?[/I]
I've never dyno'd the SS. I was going to, but it our pull session got rained out three times in a row. When it finally worked out, I missed the event.

The mods are simple bolt on mods. There's nothing to them at all. The cold air intake was the most work. Some say you might not get anything out of it because you already have the ram air intake on the hood. I figured, what the hell? Why not have two cold air intakes?! I'll just double the amount of cold air going into the air box. Plus, w/ the cold air intake, you have to cut out the bottom of your air intake box right in front of the radiator. The cutting is scary...trust me! But, once it's all done, it's worth it.

The K&N, Lid, smooth bellows, and MAF went on in ... under a minute. You simply pop off the old stuff and air box and slap the new one on there. The car already came special ordered w/ the SLP dual/dual mod from the factory. The only other exhaust I would even think of trading this one for is the Loudmouth I. That exhaust is freakin' awesome!!! And no...I don't do exhaust myself if it has to be welded. I don't have a welder. I did install my last Loudmouth in about an hour and a half. Taking off the old one was the most work seeing as though I had to cut it by hand!!! That sucked! Yup...I have my saw-zall now. I could cut that down to less than an hour now.
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:47 PM   #20
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Here's a noob question for 'ya. What exactly is "Ram - Air"?
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Correct me if I'm wrong guys but this is my thought on RAM-Air. I've never been formally taught but here's my theory:

Picture a gaping hole where one of your headlights is, which is a hose going directly to your intake manifold. The faster you go, the more air is pushed directly into the manifold. As opposed to the manifold sucking air from the surrounding area. It's just a way to direct air to your intake.

Like the mustang has that functional hood scoop on the higher end models. It acts as a deflector to force air down into the air filter. Or on older cars, down into the carb.
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So, on the "recent",(bad reference), F-bodys - it's just a funcional hood scoop?
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I believe it it Dragon. Although they might have some other ducts on the side of the engine compartment that open to the side to catch air like a hood scoop on the sides of the car as well. I haven't owned or even seen the engine bay of an f-body so I couldn't tell ya.

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So, on the "recent",(bad reference), F-bodys - it's just a funcional hood scoop?
Yes. It is functional. I have two "scoops." One on the hood and one below at the air dam (cold air induction).

And I was going to post pix, but just found that I don't have a single one from under the engine bay!!! I'll have to take some pix tomorrow...I just went looking for the camara to do it now and I can't find it. I'll get it tomorrow.
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