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Old 01-09-2009, 07:43 AM   #76
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Well if you add up the costs, 30K for an SS, 12K for brakes and ....

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.... you can see how you end up at 110K. Don't get me wrong, he is still going to make some money on this, but you can see how the costs start to mount up.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:51 AM   #77
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No way I would ever pay that much money for a Camaro. I don't care how much horsepower it has.
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with the right amount of money any car, even a fiat 5 or a trabant can be turned into an extreme super charged over powered muscle car , but there realy is no point in it, is there?

this car costs from 26000 to 45000 at best , why make one that cost 110000? buy a ferrari and you'll get the aerodynamics too.

it feels like a pimp my ride show done on perfectly good new car.
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I gotta absolutely agree with you...............it's absurd. Cool looking car, but $110,000?? Ridiculous.
Can you guys honestly not see the market niche for this car. Some people have boat loads more money than they need and don't want to take the time or have the knowledge to build a car like this themselves. They want a turn-key car with a warranty and exclusivity. Not everyone wants a Ferrari, or maybe they already have a Ferrari? Of course you can build this car for less, but that's not the point. Is it a good value? No way, but if money was no object, I'd buy it. And why can't I get excited about the fact that this car will be available even though I can't afford it. A ZR1 inspired ultra Camaro, hell yeah!!!
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:58 AM   #78
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:59 AM   #79
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Can you guys honestly not see the market niche for this car. Some people have boat loads more money than they need and don't want to take the time or have the knowledge to build a car like this themselves. They want a turn-key car with a warranty and exclusivity. Not everyone wants a Ferrari, or maybe they already have a Ferrari? Of course you can build this car for less, but that's not the point. Is it a good value? No way, but if money was no object, I'd buy it. And why can't I get excited about the fact that this car will be available even though I can't afford it. A ZR1 inspired ultra Camaro, hell yeah!!!
Well put JJ and the one thing you forgot to mention is time. Most people who have this kind of money do because they are working hard for it. It seems IMO that you usually have one or the other (money or time) but not both (unless you win the lottery).
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:10 AM   #80
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Well if you add up the costs, 30K for an SS, 12K for brakes and ....

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.... you can see how you end up at 110K. Don't get me wrong, he is still going to make some money on this, but you can see how the costs start to mount up.
Good point, and those HRE wheels are at least another 5K I'm sure. Maybe it's a better value than we originally thought. I had no idea the LS9 itself costs that much! This car is definitely not meant for the common man.
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I like the carbon fiber body parts.
But I wouldn't trust Hennessey with my money. I remember the whole thing where he pissed off a bunch of viper owners by keeping their cars, stripping it, and selling parts.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:25 AM   #82
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Do you guys think we will be able to purchase the upgrade package for this package or the sms camaro after we buy a regular SS? I dont have money for those packages yet but down the road i wouldnt mind being able to take my SS to get one of those packages done to it.
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:52 AM   #83
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Can you guys honestly not see the market niche for this car. Some people have boat loads more money than they need and don't want to take the time or have the knowledge to build a car like this themselves. They want a turn-key car with a warranty and exclusivity. Not everyone wants a Ferrari, or maybe they already have a Ferrari? Of course you can build this car for less, but that's not the point. Is it a good value? No way, but if money was no object, I'd buy it. And why can't I get excited about the fact that this car will be available even though I can't afford it. A ZR1 inspired ultra Camaro, hell yeah!!!
Well said. Hmmmm...I guess I'm wondering why we didn't see similar points-of-view being expressed when about the GT500KR when in was announced for production? All I ever heard was that $80,000K was too much for any Mustang even though that car, like the Hennessey Camaro, was never intended to be priced/marketed to what some in this thread have called the "common" man.

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Old 01-09-2009, 10:42 AM   #84
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:00 AM   #85
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Well said. Hmmmm...I guess I'm wondering why we didn't see similar points-of-view being expressed when about the GT500KR when in was announced for production? All I ever heard was that $80,000K was too much for any Mustang even though that car, like the Hennessey Camaro, was never intended to be priced/marketed to what some in this thread have called the "common" man.
$80,000 for a Mustang is "too much." But then again, so is $109,000 for a Camaro.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:16 AM   #86
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$80,000 for a Mustang is "too much." But then again, so is $109,000 for a Camaro.
Agreed.

I think these types of car sell to the "hard core" Camaro and Mustang faithful.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:34 AM   #87
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Nobody remember's the thread about Hennesy... I'll never let him touch a car of mine.
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IMHO: We'll probably never see this car with the amount of issues that are pending. Takes money from customers and doesn't deliver.
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Old 01-09-2009, 11:36 AM   #88
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that car looks awesome!!! but if i had 100k+ to buy this car, i wouldnt. i would go straight for the zr1. not taking anything away from this car, just my personal opinion. still sick looking and great numbers.
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I personally wouldn't give Hennessey any of my money either.

I also found another forum, where he frequented, and based on his comments over there, he doesn't deserve or get my money or respect.
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They rather pay that guy with a bigger name, than from the actually community. Im not hard to find. Im on and mentioned in all three major 5th gen forums.

As for the design:

-Stock bumper but with my ZR1 styled front splitter idea
-Stock side skirts, but with ZR1 styled carbon fiber piece attached
-Hood with LS9 window idea that I used
-Uses the paint scheme from the GT500KR production concept
-Used the brake idea and ZR1 wheels like I did
-Looks like a cheap black powercoated billet grille design that every Tom, Dick, and Harry that prolly will have on ebay in eight months

Sometimes I wonder if the people that make that money that I wish I chance to earn, actually think up there own stuff.

With as much as someone was to pay for this car, Henny could at least bother to change the urethane parts out for custom piece like I thought up.
I made a one-off design and THEN used ZR1 bits to finish it off. They just used ZR1 bits to make it. This actually pisses me off in my book.

Not to sound arrogant, but I really think Hennessey stole my designs from my Z28 concept that spread across the internet a few month ago. I wish I could do something about it.

My design wouldnt be hard to find even if Hennessey didnt look on the forums. The blogs and its pops up on the first page of a Google search.

Then they prolly got a photoshop artist on staff to rendering the one they have.

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Old 01-09-2009, 11:59 AM   #91
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Nice looking car, but overpriced IMO. You could buy 3 SS2 Camaros, or a Z06 and an SS2 Camaro for less...

It will be interesting to see how many aftermarket tuners have conversions the "average" Camaro owner might be able to afford. This is certainly not one of them.



EDIT!! My post was toward the Hennessey car, not the Jinx design which looks Badass too.
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100K for a Camaro? I don't care if they use alien technology for 1000HP and 0-100 in 4 seconds, thats too much money for a Camaro.

What would someone say if you told them that the camaro you bought was 100K?
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All I ever heard was that $80,000K was too much for any Mustang even though that car, like the Hennessey Camaro, was never intended to be priced/marketed to what some in this thread have called the "common" man.
I agree with your point, but if the KR had more the just a measly 40hp increase, the criticisms might have been less. For all the extra cash, you don't get much back in performance.
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Sounds cool and all but I'm shoping Aston Martin at that price point. Not that I'll ever be at that price point.
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that car looks awesome!!! but if i had 100k+ to buy this car, i wouldnt. i would go straight for the zr1. not taking anything away from this car, just my personal opinion. still sick looking and great numbers.
I would either go for a $109K ZR1 or a $109K Porsche. Can't go wrong either way.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:59 PM   #96
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:20 PM   #97
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Base price for the 2010 HPE700 Camaro is $109,500. thats the price for a base 1
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They rather pay that guy with a bigger name, than from the actually community. Im not hard to find. Im on and mentioned in all three major 5th gen forums.

As for the design:

-Stock bumper but with my ZR1 styled front splitter idea
-Stock side skirts, but with ZR1 styled carbon fiber piece attached
-Hood with LS9 window idea that I used
-Uses the paint scheme from the GT500KR production concept
-Used the brake idea and ZR1 wheels like I did
-Looks like a cheap black powercoated billet grille design that every Tom, Dick, and Harry that prolly will have on ebay in eight months

Sometimes I wonder if the people that make that money that I wish I chance to earn, actually think up there own stuff.

With as much as someone was to pay for this car, Henny could at least bother to change the urethane parts out for custom piece like I thought up.
I made a one-off design and THEN used ZR1 bits to finish it off. They just used ZR1 bits to make it. This actually pisses me off in my book.

Not to sound arrogant, but I really think Hennessey stole my designs from my Z28 concept that spread across the internet a few month ago. I wish I could do something about it.

My design wouldnt be hard to find even if Hennessey didnt look on the forums. The blogs and its pops up on the first page of a Google search.

Then they prolly got a photoshop artist on staff to rendering the one they have.

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I'm with you Jinx.. It is obvious someone took your design and copied it almost 99%, including the color.. Hope you oget a job that pays you good money for doing this sort of thing.. GM should hire you in my opinion as you have quite an extensive online resume that needs no further training in graphics design...
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I'll play the devils advocate, surely all this bashing on Hennessey has its merits, furthermore this car is obviously not meant for the low budget. I'm actually glad that some one has balls and is willing to create such an awesome car. If only more company's would do the same. Nonetheless this new LS9 camaro is a beast so BOW DOWN DOG TO YOUR NEW KING.
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