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Old 11-10-2010, 08:21 PM   #1
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Impressions of Pedders lowering springs?

For everyone here that have the Pedders lowering springs what are your overall impressions, good and bad?

What drop did you go with and what noticeable difference do you feel in the cars ride and handling with the lowering springs?

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Old 11-10-2010, 09:35 PM   #2
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I have them. Lowered about an inch. Makes a big effect on the looks. Rides a bit harsher but not too noticeable after a month or two it is softness up.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:19 PM   #3
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I have them. Lowered about an inch. Makes a big effect on the looks. Rides a bit harsher but not too noticeable after a month or two it is softness up.
Formare, I have a v6 also and am on the fence on the springs,will go Hotchkis if I do. My question, and this may help the OP, except he has an ss, is how are they reacting with the v6 shocks as I'm not sure if they are the same as the ss shocks as far as the control they will have over the stiffer lower springs? I have been on a lowered 98 for 11 years and with konis adjusted on soft ride is like stock untill you hit a bump or bad road then the reaction is firm and abrupt, how does the 2010 react to the bad roads we have? And how do springs soften up? Never had that happen before.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:40 AM   #4
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I do not think they soften up. I would bet you become accustom to the sportier ride

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Old 11-11-2010, 09:23 AM   #5
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I have them. Lowered about an inch. Makes a big effect on the looks. Rides a bit harsher but not too noticeable after a month or two it is softness up.
Thanks for the information. You mentioned ride feels a bit harsher but did the handling of the car change at all? Does it feel more planted to the road since it is lower now?

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Old 11-11-2010, 11:43 AM   #6
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The difference in handling is amazing. The ride only seems harsh if you hit a really bad bump or pothole. Highly recommended!
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:22 PM   #7
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I've been on them for about 2mo now. Loved them since the day they went on. The ride is definitely stiffer but like someone else mentioned, it's only when you're on very rough roads. Driving on the intersate is smooth as a babies bottom. IMO the OEM setup was very soft and had little feel for the road. Now the car is better planted yet still rides very well. I've since added the front and rear sways for an AMAZING feel when cornering. The car feels like it knows what it's suppose to do and does it. I look down the hood line and it doesn't change in the corners. Stays flat as a pancake. I didn't measure the drop but it's right where I like it. I let a local C5 member (Captain Mcfunk) ride and drive mine and he ordered his Pfadts that week. I highly recommend the springs and sways combo.
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I've installed most of the springs out there including the Pedders springs. They dropped the cars we've done about 1" and the ride is firm but not harsh. Most of the tier 1 companies have the rate dialed into the factory damping, no Honda on drop springs effect!

Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Have a good one and good luck!

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Old 11-12-2010, 08:28 AM   #10
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I've been on them for about 2mo now. Loved them since the day they went on. The ride is definitely stiffer but like someone else mentioned, it's only when you're on very rough roads. Driving on the intersate is smooth as a babies bottom. IMO the OEM setup was very soft and had little feel for the road. Now the car is better planted yet still rides very well. I've since added the front and rear sways for an AMAZING feel when cornering. The car feels like it knows what it's suppose to do and does it. I look down the hood line and it doesn't change in the corners. Stays flat as a pancake. I didn't measure the drop but it's right where I like it. I let a local C5 member (Captain Mcfunk) ride and drive mine and he ordered his Pfadts that week. I highly recommend the springs and sways combo.
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love mine.....i believe the ride actually improved.....put on the sway bars as well......handles incredible!!!
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I've installed most of the springs out there including the Pedders springs. They dropped the cars we've done about 1" and the ride is firm but not harsh. Most of the tier 1 companies have the rate dialed into the factory damping, no Honda on drop springs effect!

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Thanks for the informative feedback guys, this was exactly the type on information I wanted and hoped to hear.

The feedback and input I get from everyone on this forum is great! Don't know what I would do without C5 member feedback.

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Old 11-12-2010, 08:47 AM   #11
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Look at BMR and MTI products.
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:14 AM   #12
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I've been on them for about 2mo now. Loved them since the day they went on. The ride is definitely stiffer but like someone else mentioned, it's only when you're on very rough roads. Driving on the intersate is smooth as a babies bottom. IMO the OEM setup was very soft and had little feel for the road. Now the car is better planted yet still rides very well. I've since added the front and rear sways for an AMAZING feel when cornering. The car feels like it knows what it's suppose to do and does it. I look down the hood line and it doesn't change in the corners. Stays flat as a pancake. I didn't measure the drop but it's right where I like it. I let a local C5 member (Captain Mcfunk) ride and drive mine and he ordered his Pfadts that week. I highly recommend the springs and sways combo.
I believe the OP was looking for feedback on the Pedders springs but yes, the Pfadt product is top notch!

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Thanks for the informative feedback guys, this was exactly the type on information I wanted and hoped to hear.

The feedback and input I get from everyone on this forum is great! Don't know what I would do without C5 member feedback.

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No worries! Please feel free to call, email or PM us anytime with questions. Have a good one and you'll enjoy the new stance and ride!!!

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I believe the OP was looking for feedback on the Pedders springs but yes, the Pfadt product is top notch!

Sorry, my bad. For some reason I thought it said Pfadt. Guess I need those glasses sooner than later.
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I'm running B+G springs with SLP sway bars, lakewood trailing arms and toe links. Love it all... As long as the springs are cold wound springs you wont have sagging issues.
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Formare, I have a v6 also and am on the fence on the springs,will go Hotchkis if I do. My question, and this may help the OP, except he has an ss, is how are they reacting with the v6 shocks as I'm not sure if they are the same as the ss shocks as far as the control they will have over the stiffer lower springs? I have been on a lowered 98 for 11 years and with konis adjusted on soft ride is like stock untill you hit a bump or bad road then the reaction is firm and abrupt, how does the 2010 react to the bad roads we have? And how do springs soften up? Never had that happen before.
The factory bumps stops were not cut going over rail road tracks for example is still civil with no sudden harsh "hit". As for the softening, dunno maybe I'm just getting used to it as someone posted, o think I feel the ride as less harsh over about three months of driving. In my mind that makes sense as spring steel will become springy-er over time.



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Thanks for the information. You mentioned ride feels a bit harsher but did the handling of the car change at all? Does it feel more planted to the road since it is lower now?

Thanks formare


It definitely feels more planted, body roll is all but gone. In fact I used tp know the corning limits by body roll and steering response now I know when the tires start to complain by barking.

The ride is more firm, harsh may not have been the right term. It does not feel factory at all. It does feel very good and I am comfortable driving the car.

I had my springs installed by Raymonds and they "re-timed" the bushings. I think this makes a huge difference.
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The factory bumps stops were not cut going over rail road tracks for example is still civil with no sudden harsh "hit". As for the softening, dunno maybe I'm just getting used to it as someone posted, o think I feel the ride as less harsh over about three months of driving. In my mind that makes sense as spring steel will become springy-er over time.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback on a hard to describe situation. I am






It definitely feels more planted, body roll is all but gone. In fact I used tp know the corning limits by body roll and steering response now I know when the tires start to complain by barking.

The ride is more firm, harsh may not have been the right term. It does not feel factory at all. It does feel very good and I am comfortable driving the car.

I had my springs installed by Raymonds and they "re-timed" the bushings. I think this makes a huge difference.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback on a hard to describe situation. I am having the sways put on at Hotchkis on the 19th. They have their fully setup ss there and said I could take it out for a test drive, so naturally I said YES! If I like that then mine is a no brainer and may do the springs/align the same day. Just would like pics of how low the v6 is compared to the ss as it appears it may sit a bit higher as it does stock which would be perfect for me.
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