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Old 01-10-2009, 04:15 AM   #1
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Good Woork.

Thanks GM for fueling a prelaunch car community like never before. Thanks for giving us information about the Camaro in a fashion that no automobile company has ever done before. You continuously give us extra tidbits of information long in advance of the cars release. When other companies decide to sit on their information until a few weeks before sales start, you decide to give use enough information that 90% of us are smarter then 90% of your own dealers.


With all of this love you have shown the community it amazes me that certain elements of the forum still find the need to complain. Most car companies wouldn't have a sanctioned preorder period. Sure some dealers would take money anyways but there would be no guaranties. It amazes me that people can be so unrealistic. I think somewhere in our society we are breeding ungrateful idiots who have no idea how the world works and just want to complain about things they have no understanding of. I realize this is the internet and you can say anything on the internet because of the veil of anonymity. But I think a lot of this complaining is definitely going to put a sour taste in GM's mouth next time they consider informing and including the community on later projects. So to those who decide to be unrealistic and idiotic, please take the whinging some were else, we are tired of hearing it.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:27 AM   #2
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:37 AM   #3
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Thanks GM for fueling a prelauch car community like never before. Thanks for giving us information about the Camala in a fashion that no automobile company has ever done before. You continuously give us extra tidbits of information long in advance of the cars release. When other companies decide to sit on their information until a few weeks before sales start, you decide to give use enough information that 90% of us are smarter then 90% of your own dealers.


With all of this love you have shown the community it amazes me that certain elements of the forum still find the need to Complain. Most car companies wouldn't have a sanctioned peorder period. Sure some dealers would take money anyways but there would be no guaranties. It amazes me that people can be so unrealistic. I think somewhere in our society we are breeding ungrateful idiots who have no idea how the world works and just want to complain about things they have no understanding of. I realize this is the internet and you can say anything on the internet because of the veil of anonymity. But i think a lot of this complaining is definately going to put a sour taste in GM's mouth next time they consider informing and including the community on later projects. So to those who decide to be unrealistic and idiotic, please take the whinging some were else, we are tired of hearing it.
I would disagree with you here.


I think it should be 99.99% of us are smarter than our own dealers.

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Old 01-10-2009, 06:57 AM   #4
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I've got to ask about this mysterious Camala. Is it a Camaro-Impala?

I also have to take issue with your low estimate of consumer intellect. At least 99% of consumers are smarter than their dealers. The 1% reflects the like of CamaroScotty.

Otherwise, I'm with you!
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:10 AM   #5
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Thanks GM for fueling a prelauch car community like never before. Thanks for giving us information about the Camala in a fashion that no automobile company has ever done before. You continuously give us extra tidbits of information long in advance of the cars release. When other companies decide to sit on their information until a few weeks before sales start, you decide to give use enough information that 90% of us are smarter then 90% of your own dealers.


With all of this love you have shown the community it amazes me that certain elements of the forum still find the need to Complain. Most car companies wouldn't have a sanctioned peorder period. Sure some dealers would take money anyways but there would be no guaranties. It amazes me that people can be so unrealistic. I think somewhere in our society we are breeding ungrateful idiots who have no idea how the world works and just want to complain about things they have no understanding of. I realize this is the internet and you can say anything on the internet because of the veil of anonymity. But i think a lot of this complaining is definately going to put a sour taste in GM's mouth next time they consider informing and including the community on later projects. So to those who decide to be unrealistic and idiotic, please take the whinging some were else, we are tired of hearing it.
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:34 AM   #6
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Head Punter, you know how it is man, some people bitch if you hang them with a new rope. Someone posted about instant gratification, I think thats it in a nut shell. They want it now and if you can't deliver then its off into conspiracy theory land they go. If GM isn't doing things the way they think they should be doing business then they must be sabotaging the program for X reasons. Sometimes its fun to watch and sometimes I sit with my face in my hands shaking my head in amazement. The Camaro is coming, I hope everyone here is still around to enjoy it. I know you and I will be.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:15 PM   #7
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Thanks GM for fueling a prelauch car community like never before. Thanks for giving us information about the Camala in a fashion that no automobile company has ever done before. You continuously give us extra tidbits of information long in advance of the cars release. When other companies decide to sit on their information until a few weeks before sales start, you decide to give use enough information that 90% of us are smarter then 90% of your own dealers.


With all of this love you have shown the community it amazes me that certain elements of the forum still find the need to Complain. Most car companies wouldn't have a sanctioned peorder period. Sure some dealers would take money anyways but there would be no guaranties. It amazes me that people can be so unrealistic. I think somewhere in our society we are breeding ungrateful idiots who have no idea how the world works and just want to complain about things they have no understanding of. I realize this is the internet and you can say anything on the internet because of the veil of anonymity. But i think a lot of this complaining is definitely going to put a sour taste in GM's mouth next time they consider informing and including the community on later projects. So to those who decide to be unrealistic and idiotic, please take the whinging some were else, we are tired of hearing it.
Headpunter, I think you need to stay true to your roots and start punting some heads. I couldn't agree with you more. Viva la GM lol.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:18 PM   #8
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Awesome Car...Awesome Price...Waiting a Month vs. Dodge Challenger....think I'll go with the Camaro...
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:24 PM   #9
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You had to be out of breath after that. I've never seen you say one tenth as much in one post before. And....BRAVO!
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i couldn't agree with the OP more... except that the 90% is a bit low

thank-you GM for bringing us together to celebrate with you for the return of one of the most iconic Chevrolet vehicles ever!
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Old 01-10-2009, 01:50 PM   #11
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I've got to ask about this mysterious Camala. Is it a Camaro-Impala?

I also have to take issue with your low estimate of consumer intellect. At least 99% of consumers are smarter than their dealers. The 1% reflects the like of CamaroScotty.

Otherwise, I'm with you!
the retarded Firefox3 spell check is to blame for that.
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Old 01-10-2009, 02:15 PM   #13
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the retarded Firefox3 spell check is to blame for that.
I use firefox 3 and one of the first things that I did was add Camaro to the spell checker.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:05 PM   #14
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Well said! But i do have to agree to the 99%
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:10 PM   #15
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Thank you GM for including us in the Camaro's development like never before.
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Old 01-10-2009, 04:17 PM   #16
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This is amazing. Is it really respect for and fear of Punter that has kept all malcontents from posting here?
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:31 PM   #18
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Well said Headpunter.

I was out all day yesterday. Was excited to see the IDL info (on my birthday of all days). Read all the info, and was bummed for all of 30 minutes.

What made me real mad, was the MASSIVE amount of BS that came out of that stupid video. And the speculation that followed.

Unless I missed something, the only thing we can say for certain is that the prod. date got pushed back one month. Scott quickly came in and extinguished the flames... but by that point it was too late for the masses.

According to a lot of people, 2 months ago GM was going under, and the Camaro was history. Now, 2 months later... GM got their loans, and the Camaro is delayed 4 weeks. SO WHAT!!! Delayed does not mean cancelled!!!

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...Read all the info, and was bummed for all of 30 minutes...
if you only read 30min, you're much smarter than me... i read the first 10, then scanned the next 6 before i realized i needed to give up.
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...What made me real mad, was the MASSIVE amount of BS that came out of that stupid video. And the speculation that followed...
+1, and i think some were dispatched
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Well said headpunter.

Special thanks to fbodfather for taking his time a efforts informing us of how things are going with the Camaro.

I have no problem waiting for my Camaro.
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:41 AM   #22
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Well put headpunter. CamaroGreg certainly did not help and I was glad to see fbodfather call him on it. I was wondering if I was the only one fed up with the IDL thread-whining.

I don't want to wait for my 2SS either but I also want the best car they can make - I think GM knows their business. When you custom order a car they don't provide delivery dates at order...it is based on production plans for the vehicle, and yes you have to wait. Use the time to save $$$ to reduce the amount financed.
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But I think a lot of this complaining is definitely going to put a sour taste in GM's mouth next time they consider informing and including the community on later projects.
I honestly feel that GM just might keep a little more tight lipped about things next time. They want to let the faithful know, but the faithful are sometimes just a little too trigger happy to jump and interpret any info that comes out how they see fit. Just listen...we all tend to learn so much more when we listen. Way to often do we try to interpret Scotts messages or anothers message and what happens? It's like that list about how many internet forum users are needed to change a light bulb....one to change it, another to ask how to change it, three to disagree, etc ,etc... GM won't want to LOSE pre-orders....God, I'm not going into this again
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So to those who decide to be unrealistic, please take the whinging some were else, we are tired of hearing it.
I don't mind the curious folks...who have questions....but erg...sometimes I wish I could take off the Mod gloves and SPEAK.
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