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Old 11-12-2010, 03:55 PM   #1
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Scrming's Rx Catch Can install & review

Tracy (SC2150) asked me to install and review their Rx Catch Can. Tracy knows and appreciates the fact that I call them like I see them... That I certainly don't sugar coat anything... So with that in mind he sent me up one of their Catch Can's to evaluate...

First though, I thought I would share a little back ground. It appears our LLT's do ingest a lot of oil. I'm not going to debate whether it's a bad thing or not. That can be debated else where. The fact is the LLT sucks oil. Here is what I found when I removed my throttle body:

Backside of my TB:




Oil inside the manifold:



And finally I did the finger tip dip in the sump area right inside the manifold:



So regardless whether you believe oil ingestion is harmful or not, it is clear that the LLT sure does a lot of it! As I said we can debate the effect of oil ingestion elsewhere... This thread is focused on the Rx Catch Can... product quality, installation and does it do what it says it does? Namely preventing oil from being drawn into the manifold.

Here is the Rx Catch Can.



It arrived in a well packaged box. Can was actually in a protective plastic bag. Impressed with construction of the can itself.

On to the install. I quickly reviewed the installation guide. I realize that this is a very very simple install. But I feel there were a couple little areas that could have used a picture or two to better illustrate things.

The one area, that bit me and it was my fault was turning the fittings so they clear the engine cover. The guide showed the fittings turned and the hoses run properly... However, I overlooked the importance of having the fittings turned to avoid the engine cover and as a result installed the hoses incorrectly:

INCORRECT:



CORRECT:



So yes, I goofed! I cut the hose to the center fitting to short and was unable to turn the fitting... I realized this when I went to put then engine cover on. So yes, a warning about fitting orientation may be required to save idiots like me from ourselves!

The other issue I ran into was the bracket. So after I fixed my self-induced problem with the fittings orientation, i found the Catch Can itself was preventing my engine cover from fully seating on the mounting stud:



I did talk to Tracy about this. He explained the that bracket was being revised and that mine was not a production version.. that the mounting holes were off on mine... So he is aware of this issue and is actively addressing it. If I misunderstood anything, I'm sure Tracy can correct me or explain further.

So I quickly made another bracket.. not ideal but got the job done... So here is a couple pics:





From an appearance aspect, I really like it! It fits in the area nicely! That is a big open area and the Rx Can doesn't look out of place or over crowds the area.

As for performance... does it do, what it claims to? I've only had the Catch Can installed for a couple of days.. I've been driving the car pretty hard... no dyno or race track, but still some spirited driving. Now I haven't pulled the throttle body off yet but I did pull the hoses off today. The hosed from the valve cover does have some oil in it while the hose from the Catch Can to intake manifold was clean. Also I did check the end of the PCV hose, the one that plugs into the manifold. It was literally dripping with oil the other day. I cleaned it off right before I installed the RX Catch Can and it is still clean! So while it's still early, it appears the Catch Can is doing what it claims to do!

I have provided some of this feedback to Tracy and he has been very receptive to my suggestions. That to me speak volumes about his business ethics and character!

I will update this thread after I get some more miles on the Catch Can...
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Old 11-12-2010, 04:04 PM   #2
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Yeah, thats one of the reasons I bought the RX catch can, can't wait for it to arrive. The placement feels perfect in our engine bay.

Awesome pics Scrming! =D
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Interesting. Nice write up. Since all here so far have the Injen intake, have you all noticed oil in the line that hooks up to the elbow just before the throttle body. I have on mine. I like this set up though.
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Interesting. Nice write up. Since all here so far have the Injen intake, have you all noticed oil in the line that hooks up to the elbow just before the throttle body. I have on mine. I like this set up though.
Yes, I am pulling oil through the driver's side PCV into the Injen... I had one of the early Injens with the oil diffuser. I had the day off of work the other day so I replaced the oil diffuser with a DIY Catch Can...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112152


seems to work ok, for now... LOL
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Old 11-12-2010, 05:26 PM   #5
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It's a good quality product, I got the matte black, looks like it belongs there.
I don't run a cover so I routed mine without concern.

I have a couple hundred miles with it and my injen is dry as a bone.
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:02 PM   #6
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The breathered oil fill cap eliminates that issue but is NOT emmissions legal. But works great for off-road use.
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:30 PM   #7
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Good write up scrming!
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:41 PM   #8
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I'm going to update my thread after reading this. I've had my RX catch can on for awhile, with several very spirited runs on it. Like scrming, my TB was dirty on both sides, since my install, not a drop of oil anywhere but in the can!
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So...is the revised bracket available now? I need to yell my wife what to order me for Christmas...and you know if I'm not VERY explicit .........
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Good report Srming. Just like the LS1's.Those engines had the worst pcv system and the throttle body and intake looked the same. I ended using a truck pcv valve and went vertical intead of horizontal as from the factory.That and 0-30 German Castrol synthtic cut the oil use from 1 qt in 2400 miles to 1 qt in 3700 miles! Also can cause pinging with that much going into the cumbustion chamber. I wonder what it may do on these octane sensitive engines?
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Has the installation of the catch can reduced the amount of black crap on the exhaust tips?
On my car there's so much, I have to wipe them off everyday.
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Has the installation of the catch can reduced the amount of black crap on the exhaust tips?
On my car there's so much, I have to wipe them off everyday.
Most of that is probably the result of incomplete combustion of fuel. These things run pig rich! I've had a catch can for a while and never had oil coming from the driver's side but I have to clean tips everyday, too.
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Oh hey Scrming, forgot to ask. When you took off your TB and checked for oil, did you clean it off? If so, how did you do it? you think a cloth will do the trick? I think my Catch Can will be here next week, so lemme know =D

I've seen those spray cleaners too... but if a good wipe down is all it takes, i can save a few extra coins.
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I must have gotten an early non-production bracket as well. I just figured it was part of the mod process, so I made it fit =).

I broke out the Dremel and cut a small area of my engine cover. Fits like a glove now.

I ordered a second can for my girlfriends Camaro, so I'll wait and see if the bracket is smaller. Ordered it a few weeks ago, so expecting it any time.

By the way, Tracy, any word on the second polished can?

Thanks,
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How much is this can running? How much is an estimated install?
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Can for the V6 is $139 shipped (free shipping through year end!) and the install is a simple DIY job. If you don't want to tackle it yourself, I'm sure there are some near you who would help for a beer or 3.

Josh, yours should be there Tomorrow....if not let me know right away.
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Most of that is probably the result of incomplete combustion of fuel. These things run pig rich! I've had a catch can for a while and never had oil coming from the driver's side but I have to clean tips everyday, too.
I switched from Shell to Chevron and the soot in the tips was cut in half at least 87 or 91 didn't matter. A run off 235 miles mostly freeway but no everyday start ups though, and no soot at all. Might try or maybe just change to another brand as see what happens
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I switched from Shell to Chevron and the soot in the tips was cut in half at least 87 or 91 didn't matter. A run off 235 miles mostly freeway but no everyday start ups though, and no soot at all. Might try or maybe just change to another brand as see what happens
Thanks, I'll try that.
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Oh hey Scrming, forgot to ask. When you took off your TB and checked for oil, did you clean it off? If so, how did you do it? you think a cloth will do the trick? I think my Catch Can will be here next week, so lemme know =D

I've seen those spray cleaners too... but if a good wipe down is all it takes, i can save a few extra coins.
Yep, a good wipe down was all it took... took one of my old micro-fibers... also used to to mop up the puddle of oil in the manifold... LOL
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How much is this can running? How much is an estimated install?
Super simple install!!!! As I mentioned... just pay attention to how the hoses are run and the angle of the fittings... which of course i did NOT do at first... LOL
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I must have gotten an early non-production bracket as well. I just figured it was part of the mod process, so I made it fit =).

I broke out the Dremel and cut a small area of my engine cover. Fits like a glove now.

I ordered a second can for my girlfriends Camaro, so I'll wait and see if the bracket is smaller. Ordered it a few weeks ago, so expecting it any time.

By the way, Tracy, any word on the second polished can?

Thanks,
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wow, very nice trim job!
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what are the risks of not having a catch can?...wouldnt this be a problem with the stock setup too or just aftermarket? never had oil in any of my previous aftermarket intakes
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what are the risks of not having a catch can?...wouldnt this be a problem with the stock setup too or just aftermarket? never had oil in any of my previous aftermarket intakes

The risks are debatable, but I had oil in my stock airbox and it continued in my aftermarket CAI, I added the can a few hundred miles ago, so far so good. I'll continue to check every couple hundred miles.
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Read this, there is no debate on oil contaminating the intake air charge being bad in every aspect. Knowledge, never have enough.
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