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Old 01-10-2009, 04:47 PM   #1
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I want to lower just the front suspension

I was wondering if anyone can help me with something. I want to drop just the front end to give it more of a slant. Would doing that effect performace of the cars driveability in any way? Thanks
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:53 PM   #2
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it could change it some but not alot, as long as the camber and toe are adjusted to compensate for the angle change i cant see many complications
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:50 AM   #3
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doing just the front may create more of an issue than you think. The concerns are balance. Dropping the front just alittle, means new coils. Nearly all drop coils out there will have a higher spring rate, thus changing the spring balance. Not having these cars yet to play with, we are not sure of how it will handle.

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Old 01-11-2009, 01:28 PM   #4
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doing just the front may create more of an issue than you think. The concerns are balance. Dropping the front just alittle, means new coils. Nearly all drop coils out there will have a higher spring rate, thus changing the spring balance. Not having these cars yet to play with, we are not sure of how it will handle.

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Will the drop coils from Pedders on all 4 corners and an alignment be sufficient to lower the car safetly without any concerns after a few hundred miles?
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Old 01-11-2009, 07:17 PM   #5
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Will the drop coils from Pedders on all 4 corners and an alignment be sufficient to lower the car safetly without any concerns after a few hundred miles?
Our Pedders coils do not "slam" any vehicle. There will be no issues using our coils

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Old 01-11-2009, 08:59 PM   #6
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Our Pedders coils do not "slam" any vehicle. There will be no issues using our coils

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Thanks alot! I've been wanting an answer to that question for weeks! I just want to lower my car about an inch without having to buy full coil overs but everything I've read online has led me to believe that just drop coils and an alignment will cause my other suspension components to eventually fail... glad to finally hear otherwise straight from the source! Would you suggest I add the bushings you offer also or would they be unecessary for a simple drop?
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:27 PM   #7
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Pedders springs are designed to be driven every day, i see some cars that have other brands that lower a car to the ground, causing a number of problems, from uncomfortable ride, to scrapping to much
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:01 PM   #8
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Thanks alot! I've been wanting an answer to that question for weeks! I just want to lower my car about an inch without having to buy full coil overs but everything I've read online has led me to believe that just drop coils and an alignment will cause my other suspension components to eventually fail... glad to finally hear otherwise straight from the source! Would you suggest I add the bushings you offer also or would they be unecessary for a simple drop?
I think the Street 1 package which includes the front radius rod, rar xmember, and rear diff bushings will be extremely complementary to your Camaro. These are the 3 weak links in the Zeta platform

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I hope it doesn't cause much of an issue because I want to lower the front of my car too.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:01 PM   #10
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Even on the Camaro, you will find the coils will be pretty weak. They will not be like the late model Camaros and TA,s that allowed less than 1/2 inch front travel. You will have a fully active suspension. The travel, however, will be less than the G8, which is a great thing!. this is the difference between Holden design and USA input and control. However, you will find, just like Dale E. Jr. found, there will be way too much looseness and body role in the stock designs. That is good for us because we can fix what they could not do!! LOL

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Old 01-11-2009, 11:10 PM   #11
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Now when you say such things...like "too much body roll", etc...that's coming from a suspension fanatic, right? (who's naturally apt to want better than the average joe would)

You don't think the car handles like a wet noodle stock, right?
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Thanks alot Mike, I took a look at the site and drop coils + the Street I package seem to be the way to go. 2 more questions though: do you guys have a price for your drop coils yet and approximately how much will they lower the car?
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:48 PM   #13
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Now when you say such things...like "too much body roll", etc...that's coming from a suspension fanatic, right? (who's naturally apt to want better than the average joe would)

You don't think the car handles like a wet noodle stock, right?
Somewhere there is an interview with Dqle E. Jr. He complained nicely of coarse, about the soft suspension and excess body role.

We know what GM is doing with the Camaro suspension, as compared to the G8. So with that said, we pretty much know how the Camaro will handle and feel. But of coarse, once they are out, we will be able to do comparisons. Pedders USA is buying a Camaro. So we will be able to play and play hard. We will not be the only ones. Judging by the amount of emails, calls, and such from future Camaro guys, I can tell you this ride is going to be road hard by thousands.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:36 AM   #14
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I hope it doesn't cause much of an issue because I want to lower the front of my car too.
Yeah I like you sig pic. That just what I had in mind.
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Old 01-12-2009, 08:06 AM   #15
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In the 70's we would put air shocks on the rear to raise the tail for fat tire clearance. It had negative effects on handling...The long nose on a Chevelle would grab every speed bump...the weight was transferred too far forward so the tires would just spin when you got on it...everytime you went around a corner the tail gave the car excess body roll.

This car will be different, but not much. You'll still be transferring the CoG to the front.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:47 AM   #16
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Yeah I am no expert or anything but I could see a scraped/broken chin on the car pretty easy. Like wouldn't the front end dive more when you brake?


EDIT: and that Dale was commenting on body roll when he was test driving the car for his opinion about the handling. GM was using him for input on how to tune the car, so hopefully they took his advice. I mean they changed how the turn signal sounded the day after that reporter comented on it That was a cool documentary.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:52 PM   #17
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Yeah I am no expert or anything but I could see a scraped/broken chin on the car pretty easy. Like wouldn't the front end dive more when you brake?


EDIT: and that Dale was commenting on body roll when he was test driving the car for his opinion about the handling. GM was using him for input on how to tune the car, so hopefully they took his advice. I mean they changed how the turn signal sounded the day after that reporter comented on it That was a cool documentary.
The issue with GM is that they are more concerned with noise abatement than actual handling. this is their legacy engineering. So little will be done. Especially with all the woes of GM, they will compromise on trying to attract the greatest variety of customer base; thus, keeping it soft and moveable. The general populas will be more interested i looks, rather than functionality.
But have no fear, we are here to offer all the required upgrades that you can desire for your suspension needs.
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The issue with GM is that they are more concerned with noise abatement than actual handling. this is their legacy engineering. So little will be done. Especially with all the woes of GM, they will compromise on trying to attract the greatest variety of customer base; thus, keeping it soft and moveable. The general populas will be more interested i looks, rather than functionality.
But have no fear, we are here to offer all the required upgrades that you can desire for your suspension needs.
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Well, they'll consider the function to be providing a nice soft ride, not what we would consider function.
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Our Pedders coils do not "slam" any vehicle. There will be no issues using our coils

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Of course any mainstream manufacturer will err on the side of civility. It would be silly not to. The enthusiasts are very willing to go to the aftermarket. The more average buyers find a more appealing car. The manufacturer sells to both. The aftermarket guys get more business. It is a winning setup for everybody.

If I go for the SS, I'm leaving the engine alone since 426 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque is more than enough for me so battling the CARB police just isn't worth it. I'll concentrate entirely on weight, handling, seats, etc.
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