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Old 11-21-2010, 09:06 PM   #29
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Let's suspend reality for a moment and ignore all the problems with the idea.

What would you LIKE TO SEE...and how much would you pay for such an option? I believe that was Doug's question.
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If reality is suspended, then I say FREE Z28's FOR EVERYONE! Be at the plant in September for pick up! Works for me!
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:14 PM   #31
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If reality is suspended, then I say FREE Z28's FOR EVERYONE! Be at the plant in September for pick up! Works for me!
You're not getting this game...are you?
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:22 PM   #32
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You're not getting this game...are you?
I think I have a VERY creative Imagination
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:31 PM   #33
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I think I have a VERY creative Imagination
Sure do!!
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:00 AM   #34
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Let's suspend reality for a moment and ignore all the problems with the idea.

What would you LIKE TO SEE...and how much would you pay for such an option? I believe that was Doug's question.

EXACTLY.
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Rather than look for every possible way to shoot this down, why not try to use all that pessimism, turn it around, and try to find an idea to actually make it work?

It doesn't have to be taking delivery there.....or it could be...maybe you don't get to touch the car. Maybe it's just a documentation process and a tour of the plant. Who knows?

It's called ideas....brainstorming for those who would LIKE to do something like this.

If GM and Oshawa came up with some agreement (as Joe said with more and more plants opening to the public to gain consumer interest), who's to say they won't open their minds a bit??

Again. Try to stop looking for all ways to shoot this down and be try to be a bit helpful....cool?
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Old 11-22-2010, 12:34 AM   #35
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A tour of the plant is very possible. They CAN do it, but so far, they simply won't. Could be insurance, plant setup with whizzing machinery and robots, or whatever menial reason they come up with, but I believe it's the same ol' stodgy GM management that moves at a snail's pace and does not like to deal with "change". Doing something as simple as a plant tour isn't impossible. Logistically speaking, it would take a bit of effort to co-ordinate from within, but staying on a "safe" walking path and ensuring people don't get flattened shouldn't be TOO difficult for a specified day for a couple of hours. I know at our plant we do it for our best volume customers (expenses paid by the company- but I wouldn't expect GM to do that), and I've toured the St. Louis plant and Bowling Green plants with my dad for a more, shall we say, "personalized" tour. They can if they want to. The question is, can we CONVINCE them?

As far as a factory delivery and costs, if they DID do that, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of $500 or so ought to cover it. But the issue is, and hard as it is for some people to accept....Corvette is the flagship of Chevrolet's performance. NOT the Camaro. So GM probably puts on a bit better PR face for Corvette than they do Camaro. I mean, where' the Camaro museum?
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Personally, I would pay to have a "museum pack' of build documents provided in Suitable for Archive Preservation Packaging. Would pay $195 thank you!
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Try to stop looking for all ways to shoot this down and be try to be a bit helpful....cool?
It is not cool. Ignoring reality is not helpful in any situation.
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Old 11-22-2010, 06:27 AM   #38
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Oshawa is home to several new "unseen" projects. A sweating manager there said there is too much inside we DON'T want you to see.....just yet....that's why you can't come in.

Not against the OP's suggestion, yes I think it would be cool.
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:29 AM   #39
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It is not cool. Ignoring reality is not helpful in any situation.
Oh yes it is. "Reality" is perceived. And it is relative to the person doing the perceiving. To suspend conventional understandings for a brief periods of time is called "imagination"...and it usually leads to some pretty wicked ideas that can be applied to the real world. Ask Galileo, Einstein, Edison, Tesla, or every designer and engineer at GM.

So...it's very cool. If you can't answer the question posed, fine. But don't come in here acting all Debbie-downer and ruin other people's fun.


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Is Debbie Downer the same actress who starred in Debbie does Dallas? I never knew what her last name was but it seems "fitting".
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It is not cool. Ignoring reality is not helpful in any situation.
Re-read my original post. I never asked how to shoot down the idea. I asked for ideas to make it happen. I'm asking specific questions which could bring about CHANGE....it's called constant innovation. If all you want to do is dwell on reality and the way things are now, you will never get change and you will be stuck with the same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old same old..........
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Oh yes it is. "Reality" is perceived. And it is relative to the person doing the perceiving. To suspend conventional understandings for a brief periods of time is called "imagination"...and it usually leads to some pretty wicked ideas that can be applied to the real world. Ask Galileo, Einstein, Edison, Tesla, or every designer and engineer at GM.

So...it's very cool. If you can't answer the question posed, fine. But don't come in here acting all Debbie-downer and ruin other people's fun.


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