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Old 01-12-2009, 10:42 PM   #1
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Allocation process

Alright, I'd love to know exactly how this works. For now, I'll state an example problem and how I think it'll work, and then people can correct me if need be.

Example Problem:

Four Dealers: A, B, C, D
A: 40 allotted; 35 SS, 5 LS/LT
B: 20 allotted; 10 SS, 10 LS/LT
C: 10 allotted; 2 SS, 8 LS/LT
B: 5 allotted; 4 SS, 1 LS/LT

Build Ratio : 50/50

First wave of cars get sent. Instead of every dealership getting an equal amount of cars, they would get a fraction of their allocation. So, let's say the first wave is 20% the allocation.

A gets 8 cars...4 SS, 4 LS/LT
B gets 4 cars...2 SS, 2 LS/LT
C gets 2 cars...1 SS, 1 LS/LT
D gets 1 car...1 SS

This is how I think it works, please correct me if I'm wrong. In this scenario, the amount of allocations a dealer has is just as important as your # is, being #3 at dealer A is much more beneficial than being #3 at dealer D. Also, there really are two lines for each dealership; a V8 line and a V6 line.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:45 PM   #2
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Good question Stout! Ive been wondering the same thing, as I am number 4 on an allotment of 5, all ordered as SS models. Really affects me...
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I think that's pretty much the jist of it. But this is way oversimplified. It's on a month to month basis for the consensus and then a week to week basis for what they actually put in. I'm still not sure that they'll be told "you get X v8s and Y v6s for this month/week". I think they might be able to choose whatever and then the plant will figure it out. But what do I know...

Also keep in mind that 1/3rd of dealers didn't even place any pre-orders. I think it's likely that they'll order more v6s simply because they would be able to get them quicker and mark them up more.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:55 PM   #4
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I agree with woot, I don't believe the dealers are being allotted specific you get 3 v8s and 2 v6s, i think its whatever the dealer wants up to a certain number. I'm sure the franchise laws aren't written that way, and that is what or GM reps here are telling us is guiding this.

I have been searching the net today to find out more info on these allocation rules in the franchise laws but I have come up empty. They DO exist from what I read, however, finding an explanation just isn't out there.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:07 PM   #5
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We as dealers will not know if they are going to break it up V8/V6 for a month or so. We are getting ready to close out our January consensus and it'll be February consensus before Camaro appears. As for your examples, no dealer will have more V8's than V6's. All dealers will get a V6 first and all dealers will have one Camaro by late April/early May which is the V6.

No one at GM is going to say how the break out will work because they don't want us to know. We will have to wait at least another month.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:09 PM   #6
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All dealers will get a V6 first and all dealers will have one Camaro by late April/early May which is the V6.
I ignored that in the example since it supposedly doesn't affect the allocations.
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:23 PM   #7
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I ignored that in the example since it supposedly doesn't affect the allocations.
It does affect the allocations. In the IDL the Marketing Director for Camaro stated that all dealers would get an unearned V6 first, then another V6 against their projected numbers. The example he gave was all dealers will receive at least two Camaros and one of those will be a V6.
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Ummm doesn't "unearned" mean not part of the allocations? If you're allocated 1 car, you're still going to get that first v6 in addition to your allocation....
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Ummm doesn't "unearned" mean not part of the allocations? If you're allocated 1 car, you're still going to get that first v6 in addition to your allocation....
All dealers will get an extra Camaro. It will be a V6. Now on to allocation. All dealers are forced to take ANOTHER V6 against their allocation. We can't even choose the color or options. It will come from one of four possible configurations.
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All dealers will get an extra Camaro. It will be a V6. Now on to allocation. All dealers are forced to take ANOTHER V6 against their allocation. We can't even choose the color or options. It will come from one of four possible configurations.
Then why did they say "all dealers are guaranteed two Camaros and one would be a V6"? Wouldn't they have said "all dealers are guaranteed two Camaros and BOTH will be a V6s" if that was the case?
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Then why did they say "all dealers are guaranteed two Camaros and one would be a V6"? Wouldn't they have said "all dealers are guaranteed two Camaros and BOTH will be a V6s" if that was the case?
This extra "Gimmie" Camaro is for a promotion that was to be called "Chevrolet Open House" and was to be April 1-May 15th. Now because of the Camaro delay who knows if or what it'll be called. Chevy wanted a Camaro in every dealer for this promotion. It has nothing to do with the two car minimum of which one will be a V6.
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This extra "Gimmie" Camaro is for a promotion that was to be called "Chevrolet Open House" and was to be April 1-May 15th. Now because of the Camaro delay who knows if or what it'll be called. Chevy wanted a Camaro in every dealer for this promotion. It has nothing to do with the two car minimum of which one will be a V6.
So now every dealer is getting 3 cars? What about the small dealers that have been told they will only get one Camaro for the first "production guidance" or whatever you want to call it? Everything I've read (including what you've posted) has made me believe that the mandatory v6 IS the car for the "Chevrolet Open House" and the 2nd car was the one from their allocation that could be whatever they choose.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:00 AM   #13
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So if every dealership is getting two V6's, they can sell the second one since they can't sell the first? And the second V6 can't even be adjusted for a customer waiting in line for a V6?
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You guys keep going round n round like mice on a wheel.

It is what it is and all the "figuring you do " is not going to change it.

All you can do is have a solid contact with you dealer.
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Old 01-13-2009, 12:51 AM   #15
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You guys keep going round n round like mice on a wheel.

It is what it is and all the "figuring you do " is not going to change it.
Helps me and possibly others plan when they're going to get their car. I may not be able to change the time I get my car but I can at least begin to prepare.
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All dealers will get an extra Camaro. It will be a V6. Now on to allocation. All dealers are forced to take ANOTHER V6 against their allocation. We can't even choose the color or options. It will come from one of four possible configurations.
Actually Fbodfather confirmed in a PM that the dealers DO NOT have to take the 2nd V6 if they do not want it.
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So now every dealer is getting 3 cars? What about the small dealers that have been told they will only get one Camaro for the first "production guidance" or whatever you want to call it? Everything I've read (including what you've posted) has made me believe that the mandatory v6 IS the car for the "Chevrolet Open House" and the 2nd car was the one from their allocation that could be whatever they choose.
I thought I saw somewhere, in some thread, that FBodFather clarified that every dealer would get one V6 not counting against their allocation. But that after that another V6 would NOT be forced on the dealer as part of the allocation. Unless they do have a V6 ordered anyway.

My situation fits with the example above. I was #1 to order my 2SS/RS at a dealership that had been allotted 5. I don't know all the other orders, but the first 3 were #1 My SS, #1 Another SS, #3 A V6 I believe. So I'm quite curious how early or late I'll get mine...
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Yep, same thing I was wondering....my dealership was allocated 3, and I was #1 on the list. I have a IOM 2SS/RS ordered, guy in slot 2 has a black 2SS/RS ordered, and the 3rd guy has a black 1LS ordered....we all ordered the same day...I am interested how this will work out.....
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Im just trying to decide if I need to change dealers in order to get a camaro this year, considering I'm number 4 on an allotment of 5, all SS's...
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I thought the whole ordering process back in October was just for marketing purposes, so the allotment we speak of has little reference to when we actually get the car. What the "ordering" process did back in October was just show the interest we had in the car. So most cars that arrive at the dealerships will go to sold contracts first. Unless I'm missed something somewhere since theres like over 50 pages to go thru since the IDL came out Friday.
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For the love of all that is right in the world...please stop listening to Camaro Greg. Just put him on the ignore list and watch for Scott and Scotty info.
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I thought the whole ordering process back in October was just for marketing purposes, so the allotment we speak of has little reference to when we actually get the car. What the "ordering" process did back in October was just show the interest we had in the car. So most cars that arrive at the dealerships will go to sold contracts first. Unless I'm missed something somewhere since theres like over 50 pages to go thru since the IDL came out Friday.
The pre order in Oct. WAS a sold order. They took deposits. But it also was for marketing purposes.
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For the love of all that is right in the world...please stop listening to Camaro Greg. Just put him on the ignore list and watch for Scott and Scotty info.
Yea it's sad that someone spreads out so much misinformation about preorders, how they are handled, and when the cars will arrive that Fbodfather personally has to call you out and tell you to stop.
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GM is making perfect sense on this one. 80% of the people want V8s, lets make the V6's.
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GM is making perfect sense on this one. 80% of the people want V8s, lets make the V6's.
So much for people actually reading threads.

here is a hint...READ before making comments. You'll sound less the buffoon
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