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Old 01-13-2009, 09:49 PM   #18
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Great news, I was hoping it would be just over 300! Thanks for sharing Scotty!
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So what estimates do you guys have for the V6 at the rear wheels?
263.0 RWHP and 241.7 RWTQ.
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:30 PM   #21
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and as far as milage.....

GM Estimated 27 MPG
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Old 01-14-2009, 02:58 PM   #22
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Very nice! This is just an embarrassment to the V6 Mustang and Challengers.
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and as far as milage.....

GM Estimated 27 MPG
When might we know the EPA #'s?

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Very precise guess. I think it might be roughly 264.3 and 243.1
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:02 PM   #24
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and as far as milage.....

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Yeah, but why is the auto at 27mpg and the manual at 25mpg? They don't magically enable AFM with the 3.6L engine when you buy the automatic do they?
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Yeah, but why is the auto at 27mpg and the manual at 25mpg? They don't magically enable AFM with the 3.6L engine when you buy the automatic do they?
The manual has pretty aggressive gearing. The gearing in the V6 auto is nearly the same as in the SS auto except for final drive ratio. I think.
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that is nice, however 0-60 and 1/4 mile improvements would be a better take. sorry but the v6 is slow imo.
That's why you're getting the SS, right?

Thanks Scotty! Cool news, I'll take 304 and the 27 MPG.
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Is there a commonly used formula for power/efficiency? I would love to see some comparisons. Kind of like the weight to power ratio? I mean, 304HP/27MPG seems really amazing to me.
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Very precise guess. I think it might be roughly 264.3 and 243.1
Not a guess. Its been dyno tested in the CTS and got those numbers stock.
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The manual has pretty aggressive gearing. The gearing in the V6 auto is nearly the same as in the SS auto except for final drive ratio. I think.
Thanks. I forgot about the difference in gearing between the AT and MT on the LS/LT.
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Thanks. I forgot about the difference in gearing between the AT and MT on the LS/LT.
I dont know what it is about that chart that made me realize that MAN DO I WANT THIS CAR REALLY BADDD
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that aisin is geared like crazy...


if we could only get gearing like that on the ss... jebus.
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You want that high gearing? only good for economy the higher you go, and more top speed I suppose.
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You want that high gearing? only good for economy the higher you go, and more top speed I suppose.
You've got that backward - lower number = longer gear. Meaning first gear in the V6 manual will be rather short. The program I ran previously put the redline at about 40 mph. 70 or so in second. Then just over 100 in third.

They did it to make up for the V6's "lower" torque numbers, I guarantee it. With that gearing, the V6 camaro has only 4% less torque to the wheels in first gear than the Challenger R/T. In later gears the gap widens considerably, but low end torque makes the most difference at the launch. The V6's high end power will help carry it through the other gears.
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You've got that backward - lower number = longer gear. Meaning first gear in the V6 manual will be rather short. The program I ran previously put the redline at about 40 mph. 70 or so in second. Then just over 100 in third.

They did it to make up for the V6's "lower" torque numbers, I guarantee it. With that gearing, the V6 camaro has only 4% less torque to the wheels in first gear than the Challenger R/T. In later gears the gap widens considerably, but low end torque makes the most difference at the launch. The V6's high end power will help carry it through the other gears.
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Yea thats what I mean, the first gear in the V6 manual is shorter compared to the first gear in the SS manual. The lower the number the higher the gear ratio. At least that what I've been taught. That's why a high 3.23:1 rear end ratio is better for the highway compared to a low 4.10:1 ratio.

Here is a quote from Chevy high performance. "Fortunately, today's transmissions frequently utilize Overdrive high gears in the neighborhood of 0.70:1, which allow reduced engine speeds. "
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