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[Viper595]

Ever since i purchased some products from Adam's, all i have to say is WOW. truly amazing products! I've had one experience though, that's kinda puzzled me. It's been rainy today, and finally let off about 1pm and i decided to give my car a bath since i had to drive her to work today. After washing and spraying the whole car with the detailing spray (as per the dvd) i started drying, and everything except the roof and trunk panel turned out spectacular as usual. The roof and trunk was hazy, almost like it wasn't drying particularly well. Even though i kept going over the areas with microfiber and the detailing spray, it just kept hazing over. I'm assuming this is due to the high humidity levels in the air, and it just wasn't taking the last bit of water/detailing spray off of the paint. I finally used my calfskin chamois in these two areas, and the haze lifted right off. So, I guess the question is: was the humidity levels in the air causing the haze, or was it my own technique causing the issue? Thanks guys!

[CamaroDreams07]

Hmm.. I'm gonna say humidity because I've never seen that on mine. Perhaps your drying towels were oversaturated by that point and were just pushing water around...I don't know. I might put an extra coat of wax on the trouble areas (or heck, the whole car) and see if that doesn't make any difference.

[Gramps]

I've never understood the step of covering the car completely with detail spray prior to wiping down after a wash...other than to sell more detail spray. You want a perfect dry down without all that product needing to be wiped off every time you wash..?...after you wash, run the rinse water from your hose with no nozzle attached. If you car has any kind of LSP on it...the water should sheet off beautifully, leaving only a tiny bit of water. Then take out the leave blower and get as much of the water that is left off as possible. you won't get it all...but you will get it to the point where a final wipe with a good microfiber drying towel is all that you need. There is no streaking or hazing possible. When I do a final wipe...my MF drying towel is barely damp to the touch because there is so little water to dry off.

Another point...Detail Sprays offer NO protection, so for me, they are a complete waste of time. If I'm going to take the time and effort to wipe the paint, I better be getting some protection out of it...just "looking good" doesn't cut it for me. A good spray wax is preferred,and some even work good for a drying agent (Griot's Garage spray wax is a perfect substitute for detail spray for those that think they need a drying agent to dry a car properly)...and you get the protection of wax between washes. I also love Ultimate's new Spray wax. Pinnacle's Souveran spray wax is awesome too.

I haven't used detail sprays in over 2 years. For those who think they can't live without them...try a good spray wax, or one of the new waterless wash products. Detail spray in my mind is a waste of money because newer products have made them pretty much obsolete.

[CamaroDreams07]

Originally Posted by Gramps

I've never understood the step of covering the car completely with detail spray prior to wiping down after a wash...other than to sell more detail spray. You want a perfect dry down without all that product needing to be wiped off every time you wash..?...after you wash, run the rinse water from your hose with no nozzle attached. If you car has any kind of LSP on it...the water should sheet off beautifully, leaving only a tiny bit of water. Then take out the leave blower and get as much of the water that is left off as possible. you won't get it all...but you will get it to the point where a final wipe with a good microfiber drying towel is all that you need. There is no streaking or hazing possible. When I do a final wipe...my MF drying towel is barely damp to the touch because there is so little water to dry off.

Another point...Detail Sprays offer NO protection, so for me, they are a complete waste of time. If I'm going to take the time and effort to wipe the paint, I better be getting some protection out of it...just "looking good" doesn't cut it for me. A good spray wax is preferred,and some even work good for a drying agent (Griot's Garage spray wax is a perfect substitute for detail spray for those that think they need a drying agent to dry a car properly)...and you get the protection of wax between washes. I also love Ultimate's new Spray wax. Pinnacle's Souveran spray wax is awesome too.

I haven't used detail sprays in over 2 years. For those who think they can't live without them...try a good spray wax, or one of the new waterless wash products. Detail spray in my mind is a waste of money because newer products have made them pretty much obsolete.

So if you're so against DS, as we've all come to know very well, why use waterless wash? It's essentially the same thing.

Detail spray makes drying easier. Simple fact. Spray Adam's DS on a wet car and watch the water retreat. A light mist of detail spray cuts down drying time and leaves a shinier finish. If you don't wanna take the time, that's fine. But it takes like 10 seconds to mist the car before drying, and that time is easily made up for in less drying time. Then you can proceed with your LSP for protection, locking in that shine the DS gave you.

Addressing the other bolded statement, a good wax (not that cheap-o spray wax) should last about 6 months. So you already have wax protection between washes. Not really sure what you're talking about. You keep adding a layer of wax everytime you dry the car and you'll surely cloud the finish. Of course, if you're just using most sprays, then it's probably not lasting anyway, and you would need to apply more after each wash.

[Uncle Harvey]

I be damned if I can understand why people can not talk to each other in a reasonable way. For Gods sake we are talking about washing cars here. Folks can use whatever product or technique they want. No one has to follow. We should be able to make a point without using words like Cheap-o, simplistic, etc. There are lots of places to vent on the net. This is not the place.

[CamaroDreams07]

Originally Posted by Uncle Harvey

I be damned if I can understand why people can not talk to each other in a reasonable way. For Gods sake we are talking about washing cars here. Folks can use whatever product or technique they want. No one has to follow. We should be able to make a point without using words like Cheap-o, simplistic, etc. There are lots of places to vent on the net. This is not the place.

Cheap-o does apply to certain products. Has nothing to do with him as a person, I didn't know I had to be respectful to a PRODUCT. He always comes into threads and talks about how worthless detail spray is, and it's simply not true. I'm not going to let him spread misinformation without at least posting the counterpoint. I'm sorry if it hurt yalls feelings. I was trying to truthfully answer your question. Most people who are serious about detailing dry with detail spray. But from now on I'll try my best to steer clear of your threads

[wrbear]

I'm new to the ultra detailing of a car. I've always detailed mine old school but it left much to be desired for a show room look. I've learned lot's from people on this and other sites. I appreciate the input and I'm hoping some appreciate my input on same. There are so many ideas and methods. Just rigged up my leaf blower and am looking forward to my next wash and wax to see if I can get ride of the swirls that are left behind by my chamois. I think I've taken 5% of everyone advise and made my own 100%!!!!

[Dylan@Adams]

Temperatures and humidity will definitely change the way products behave, especially during the drying process. This same scenario seems to happen to me if I'm drying and it colder than say 60* out early in the morning.

Generally I just get the bulk of the water off, then come back a few moments later with a plush towel and another mist of DS, wipe gently and its gone.

I'd suspect it was the temp/humidity... but thats not to say something else wasn't to blame... just so many variables that could have impacted it.

[Uncle Harvey]

Originally Posted by wrbear

I'm new to the ultra detailing of a car. I've always detailed mine old school but it left much to be desired for a show room look. I've learned lot's from people on this and other sites. I appreciate the input and I'm hoping some appreciate my input on same. There are so many ideas and methods. Just rigged up my leaf blower and am looking forward to my next wash and wax to see if I can get ride of the swirls that are left behind by my chamois. I think I've taken 5% of everyone advise and made my own 100%!!!!

This is a great site. You will get better than a showroom finish by using the things you learn on here. I have learned a lot on here. Lets hope that all of the bickering stops and this forum remains fun for everyone.

[Viper595]

Originally Posted by Dylan@Adams

Temperatures and humidity will definitely change the way products behave, especially during the drying process. This same scenario seems to happen to me if I'm drying and it colder than say 60* out early in the morning.

Generally I just get the bulk of the water off, then come back a few moments later with a plush towel and another mist of DS, wipe gently and its gone.

I'd suspect it was the temp/humidity... but thats not to say something else wasn't to blame... just so many variables that could have impacted it.

hey thanks dylan, i went out to the car this morning around 7 and it was still shining like a champ, i'm pretty sure it was just the close-to 100% humidity bringing everything to the surface. again, you guys have AMAZING products! i'll NEVER use anything else on my car!